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thebuzzardman wrote:NYKAL wrote:millerboyd123 wrote:Randle / Morris are a lock for the starting 5.
Don't you mean 6'11 Portis. I'd rather see Taj Gibson at the 5 before Morris
He means among the starting 5
robillionaire wrote:frank didn't play down the stretch, france loses
robillionaire wrote:he played the entire first quarter and had 7 pts (3/5 shooting) 4 reb 1 stl. didn't turn it over.
robillionaire wrote:france loses, frank didn't play down the stretch
MaseInYourFace wrote:moocow007 wrote:I think the point he's trying to make is that Frank doesn't seem to be a natural when it comes to the game of basketball. His basketball instincts and feel for the game are suspect and he compensates for it by trying to use his memory to react to plays based on what his coaches have told him along the way. That could be why he seems to operate at one speed no matter the game situation or competition like he's trying to play the situation in his head so he can remember what he's been taught he should do in response. I compared Frank to him the other day but Felipe Lopez was the same way. He didn't have great basketball instincts and feel. Against lesser competition he was able to rely on his physical tools and intellect to do well but as the competition for harder and pace quickened he just couldn't execute on the court. That is what I'm seeing when watching Frank play.Fat Kat wrote:
So players that succeed in the NBA are stupid, but Frank might be too smart to make it? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?
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I would tend to agree. If you look at Frank it is almost like he didn’t play enough pick up ball or just informal games. In a way he’s almost over coached. He’s just not very instinctual and no matter how structured a team may be there will be situations where the structure is struggling or the opponent is causing that structure to fail. Players need to be able to adjust and react quickly.
I get what you mean on Felipe Lopez. He wasn’t the most fluid player but yeah they were different kinds of players. But I see the overall comparison. Felipe Lopez was an amazing high school player who dominated at that level. Being Dominican I watched Felipe coming up quite a bit. The Dominican community was hoping he’d be a superstar. He just wasn’t as good as we hoped he’d be. He struggled individually in college game way more than expected plus those St Johns teams were starting to decline. I also suspect Felipe was a little older than we knew (might explain partially why he dominated in high school) since he looks super ancient now. I just think the level of competition caught up with him.
taj2133 wrote:robillionaire wrote:france loses, frank didn't play down the stretch
Frank played like crap after the first quarter he couldn't defend patty mills.
remi_222 wrote:taj2133 wrote:robillionaire wrote:france loses, frank didn't play down the stretch
Frank played like crap after the first quarter he couldn't defend patty mills.
How about giving credit to Mills because he's an extraordinary player ?
Albicy played an amazing defense on Mills the whole game, being smaller than Frank it gives him more mobility than Frank to D on Mills.
But Frank didnt play bad D, he was always anticipating screens well, always super close to his opponent.
Offensively, on a short competiton like this one the coaching staff doesnt have enough time to set up a whole system that would involve all the players. French team is based on offensive talents like Fournier and De Colo. And it worked pretty well for 39min and 55sec.
On D, the problem was the big man shooting 3's, because Gobert doesnt defend far away from the basket, we had the same problem vs Germany.
Wednesday, Brook Lopez will be a key vs us, he's to me the biggest threat
robillionaire wrote:robillionaire wrote:he played the entire first quarter and had 7 pts (3/5 shooting) 4 reb 1 stl. didn't turn it over.
after playing all 10 mins of the first quarter he played 10 more the rest of the game, didn't score again
7 pts 3/7 (0/2 from 3) 5 rebs, 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 to. -5 +/-
the turnover came early in the 4th quarter on a drive for a successful layup but was called for a charging foul, after that he was on the bench the rest of the game.
taj2133 wrote:remi_222 wrote:taj2133 wrote:Frank played like crap after the first quarter he couldn't defend patty mills.
How about giving credit to Mills because he's an extraordinary player ?
Albicy played an amazing defense on Mills the whole game, being smaller than Frank it gives him more mobility than Frank to D on Mills.
But Frank didnt play bad D, he was always anticipating screens well, always super close to his opponent.
Offensively, on a short competiton like this one the coaching staff doesnt have enough time to set up a whole system that would involve all the players. French team is based on offensive talents like Fournier and De Colo. And it worked pretty well for 39min and 55sec.
On D, the problem was the big man shooting 3's, because Gobert doesnt defend far away from the basket, we had the same problem vs Germany.
Wednesday, Brook Lopez will be a key vs us, he's to me the biggest threat
Brook lopez has played like total crap this whole world cup he is 2/12 from three point land he is averaging 3.3 points, 27 percent from field, 16 percent from three, 2.5 rebounds, and 1.3 blocks. http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/player/Brook-Lopez
Mills played great this whole world cup but after the first 10 minute austrialla knew that frank couldn't score all game they let him have his 7 points that was it for frank. When frank defended mills he got beat badly and got benched because frank didn't do well which is disappointing because frank is supposedly a great defensive player.
MaseInYourFace wrote:robillionaire wrote:robillionaire wrote:he played the entire first quarter and had 7 pts (3/5 shooting) 4 reb 1 stl. didn't turn it over.
after playing all 10 mins of the first quarter he played 10 more the rest of the game, didn't score again
7 pts 3/7 (0/2 from 3) 5 rebs, 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 to. -5 +/-
the turnover came early in the 4th quarter on a drive for a successful layup but was called for a charging foul, after that he was on the bench the rest of the game.
Fizdale coaching France?
NYKnickerbocker wrote:Patty can get buckets. Frank probably to big to be chasing him around screens. Nice to see the little scoring outburst tho
He does struggle with really small, quick guards who can shoot sometimes. Like, he was great against Schroeder a couple games ago, but Schroeder can't shootMaseInYourFace wrote:NYKnickerbocker wrote:Patty can get buckets. Frank probably to big to be chasing him around screens. Nice to see the little scoring outburst tho
Hmmm interesting. That’s supposed to be an area of strength for Frank. It’s just one game and matchup but if long term frank can’t guard smaller quicker guards that doesn’t bode well for him because it really limits how you can use him in the nba.
MaseInYourFace wrote:NYKnickerbocker wrote:Patty can get buckets. Frank probably to big to be chasing him around screens. Nice to see the little scoring outburst tho
Hmmm interesting. That’s supposed to be an area of strength for Frank. It’s just one game and matchup but if long term frank can’t guard smaller quicker guards that doesn’t bode well for him because it really limits how you can use him in the nba.