Guano wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:
I see you trying to be slick with gallo for 50 and chandler for 25

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Guano wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:
I see you trying to be slick with gallo for 50 and chandler for 25
DaGawd wrote:
he said he was gonna throw up in his mouth before he said us.. points deducted
god shammgod wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:
jesus. look at that chart. i'm just gonna keep my dollar.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:True story. A Knicks PF receives the ball out near the 3pt line and a 6'-4" defender is switched on to him. One scenario: two different results.
1. Knick's PF automatically switches into tunnel vision "I must shoot this ball no matter WHAT because mismatch!". The smaller guy is a good defender and holds his ground....Knicks PF is hell-bent on trying to dribble past the defender and turns it over.....or tries to back him down, fails, and forces & bricks a contested long 2 with one or two defenders in his face... or realizes he can't get a comfortable shot after completely running down the shot clock and finally passes it with 3 seconds left: shot clock violation or bailout air ball.
2. In the same situation, a different Knicks PF, aware of his limitations, simply passes the ball with no hesitation and looks to move without the ball towards the paint for a quick score...or passes it and the ball quickly finds its way to a guard that has a big switched on to him. Guard torches the big and scores easily, or collapses the defense, resulting in a Knicks high percentage shot in the paint or wide open 3 ball and the Knicks score.
The same scenario plays out multiple times during the course of the game....
Who is PF in outcome #1 and who is PF in outcome #2?
You're ignoring the other scernario where PF #2 passes the ball, moves, goes to post, receives the ball posting up the 6'4" guard and get bodied out of position and balance.
And no, I don't mean Porzingis.
Obi is decent, but he has his flaws.
love obi. PF1 also has an all-nba season in which he demonstrated the ability to manage both scenarios appropriately. i don't hate the idea of giving him a chance to find that again. even if you want to trade him, that's useful.
Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:
jesus. look at that chart. i'm just gonna keep my dollar.
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:
jesus. look at that chart. i'm just gonna keep my dollar.
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:
jesus. look at that chart. i'm just gonna keep my dollar.
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
and we have people worried about trading 10 unprotected picks for Donovan Mitchell.
god shammgod wrote:you guys always get mad but that's what the rest of the country actually thinks about this franchise. it's not hate. nobody hates someone who's always losing. someone has to have some level of success to be hated on.
god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:
jesus. look at that chart. i'm just gonna keep my dollar.
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:god shammgod wrote:
jesus. look at that chart. i'm just gonna keep my dollar.
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
Ghetto Gospel wrote:god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:
I struggle remembering important dates and names of people in my life yet I can name every one of these bums.
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
this list really needed pablo prigioni
robillionaire wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
love obi. PF1 also has an all-nba season in which he demonstrated the ability to manage both scenarios appropriately. i don't hate the idea of giving him a chance to find that again. even if you want to trade him, that's useful.
Problem with that all-nba season is that he was top 10 in touches per game, he had the ball more than Giannis, Embiid, Lillard, DONOVAN, Tatum, Curry and a host of other players and of course no fans. I don't think he can play without the ball, and I don't think he'd be able to simply get out of the way of plays and let them develop on their own.
Randle's stats are almost in lock step with his touches, meaning he's far less effective when the offense isn't revolving around him completely. Brunson and Mitchell have both shown they can play off the ball, both of them averaged less touches per game this season than Randle did. But here, you'd want to see them kick that up a notch and have the ball more than they did on their previous teams. So lets say Brunson and Mitchell end up combing for 155 touches per game, that would knock Randle down into the low 60s for touches per game, and his stats will be nowhere near All-nba level.
that's fine, we wouldn't want him carrying a team on his back anymore and that's the only way he can be an all NBA player. we should hope he averages like 16 and 8 with 3 or 4 assists a game, to me that would be good from the pf position. Maybe that's not worth what they're paying him but that's about what you'd want out of a 3rd or 4th option, you'd basically want his stats to drop like chris bosh 2013 2014 after he joined the heat, he wasn't putting up the numbers he did in Toronto but that was good for the team. I think there's a better chance randle respects players like brunson and donovan to let them run the show
Jeff Van Gully wrote:Ghetto Gospel wrote:god shammgod wrote:
i'm searching my mind for someone who didn't make the chart. i mean, is this all we have to show for the last 15 years from the draft ? it's amazingly pathetic.
this list really needed pablo prigioni
Mans was like 40 when he got here
Ghetto Gospel wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:Ghetto Gospel wrote:
this list really needed pablo prigioni
Mans was like 40 when he got here
yeah but there's literally like 2 guys only you can take to play the 1, IQ at 50c or frank at 10c, iq for 50 is eh and frank is not really a 1, maybe squeeze in mardy collins or toney douglas for 5c?
Chanel Bomber wrote:
Ghetto Gospel wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:Ghetto Gospel wrote:
this list really needed pablo prigioni
Mans was like 40 when he got here
yeah but there's literally like 2 guys only you can take to play the 1, IQ at 50c or frank at 10c, iq for 50 is eh and frank is not really a 1, maybe squeeze in mardy collins or toney douglas for 5c?
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
IQChanel Bomber wrote: