OT: Democratic Primary Thread

[Stannis]

Why are they bringing Hillary in this? They shouldn't even allowed her to show her face. That's gonna cost a lot of votes.

[Stannis]

They keep bringing "getting Bernie supporters".

Here's how you don't get Bernie supporters.
1) Don't put a candidate fighting a sexual accusation. Progressives tend to be feminist. This is a big no no.
2) Don't claim some "party unity" by having Hillary Clinton endorse
3) Don't cancel primaries

[HighRyzer83]

for everyone mad about NY cancelling the presidential primary:

If you want revenge, you know what you need to do now.

What??

"Tear da motherfcker down!"

You ever thought about running? I'd vote for you. We'd just have to worry about Clyde trying to over throw the government

[HarthorneWingo]

What??

"Tear da motherfcker down!"

You ever thought about running? I'd vote for you. We'd just have to worry about Clyde trying to over throw the government

Ha, thank you for your support! Funny you should ask. Part of me we love to, the other part wants to move to some serene place where the weather is good, I can kayak, hike with my dog, find some musicians to play with and chill.

That said, the son of one of my (former) childhood best friends was recently elected NY state assemblyman in my district on Long Island. I loved this kid as I got to watch him grow up and now I find out that he's just doing this as a stepping stone to higher positions in the republican party ... which means you have to show that you suck Trump's dick really well and he certainly is trying his best. He has lost his moral compass and turned into a total douche bag. This kid used to call me "uncle."

Recently, he's been pissing me off with his tweets about how great Trump is overseeing this pandemic so I've been burning down his comments sections with counter-articles and #facts. I'm almost tempted to run against him just for the fun of it. I already know he lied on his campaign resume. He claims he was employed as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the U.S. Attorney's office in NY (I think either upstate near Albany or the Eastern District on Long Island) but I know it was just an internship while in law school. Everyone is required to take one with one of the government agencies or participating non-profits. He never held a job there. His entire pro-law enforcement schtick all flows from the lie that he was a former Asst. U.S. Attorney.

The whole irony of this is that he's a huge House of Cards fan, the political drama on Netflix starring Kevin Spacey as this sociopath cut-throat (literally) U.S. Congressman. So to turn the tables on him like that wold be so much fun.

[HarthorneWingo]

They keep bringing "getting Bernie supporters".

Here's how you don't get Bernie supporters.
1) Don't put a candidate fighting a sexual accusation. Progressives tend to be feminist. This is a big no no.
2) Don't claim some "party unity" by having Hillary Clinton endorse
3) Don't cancel primaries

Did you see Stacey Abrams interview with Don Lemon on CNN tonight? Don caught her with a couple jabs on her hypocritical positions re the sexual assault allegations against Justice Kavanaugh and Joe Biden. She did not come off well. Whatever help she'd be in terms of the black vote will be lost in terms of the women's vote.

@29:40

Watch on YouTube

Also, in what could be described only as a dish of revenge served cold to Trump, Justin Amash is running as a third-party candidate for President.

[HarthorneWingo]

Watch on YouTube

[HarthorneWingo]

Richard David Wolff is an American economist, known for his work on economic methodology and class analysis. He is Professor Emeritus of Economics at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, and currently a Visiting Professor in the Graduate Program in International Affairs of the New School University in New York.

On this economic crash and the pandemic. Capitalism is the problem. Continued growth is the problem. The system is breaking down.

Watch on YouTube

[blanko]

What do you guys think about the sexual assault alligations that came out? Creepy uncle joe was a thing even within Democrats during the obama administration (who else would watch vp press conferences lol).

Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

[HighRyzer83]

They keep bringing "getting Bernie supporters".

Here's how you don't get Bernie supporters.
1) Don't put a candidate fighting a sexual accusation. Progressives tend to be feminist. This is a big no no.
2) Don't claim some "party unity" by having Hillary Clinton endorse
3) Don't cancel primaries

Did you see Stacey Abrams interview with Don Lemon on CNN tonight? Don caught her with a couple jabs on her hypocritical positions re the sexual assault allegations against Justice Kavanaugh and Joe Biden. She did not come off well. Whatever help she'd be in terms of the black vote will be lost in terms of the women's vote.

@29:40

Watch on YouTube

Also, in what could be described only as a dish of revenge served cold to Trump, Justin Amash is running as a third-party candidate for President.

Yeah it's really sad how this was the party of women's rights and me too movement when it served a purpose, only to shut up about it when it's their creepy uncle doing it. What happened to all that moral high ground and virtue signaling?

[Stannis]

They keep bringing "getting Bernie supporters".

Here's how you don't get Bernie supporters.
1) Don't put a candidate fighting a sexual accusation. Progressives tend to be feminist. This is a big no no.
2) Don't claim some "party unity" by having Hillary Clinton endorse
3) Don't cancel primaries

Did you see Stacey Abrams interview with Don Lemon on CNN tonight? Don caught her with a couple jabs on her hypocritical positions re the sexual assault allegations against Justice Kavanaugh and Joe Biden. She did not come off well. Whatever help she'd be in terms of the black vote will be lost in terms of the women's vote.

@29:40

Watch on YouTube

Also, in what could be described only as a dish of revenge served cold to Trump, Justin Amash is running as a third-party candidate for President.

That video changes to another video when I click it?

[HarthorneWingo]

They keep bringing "getting Bernie supporters".

Here's how you don't get Bernie supporters.
1) Don't put a candidate fighting a sexual accusation. Progressives tend to be feminist. This is a big no no.
2) Don't claim some "party unity" by having Hillary Clinton endorse
3) Don't cancel primaries

Did you see Stacey Abrams interview with Don Lemon on CNN tonight? Don caught her with a couple jabs on her hypocritical positions re the sexual assault allegations against Justice Kavanaugh and Joe Biden. She did not come off well. Whatever help she'd be in terms of the black vote will be lost in terms of the women's vote.

@29:40

Also, in what could be described only as a dish of revenge served cold to Trump, Justin Amash is running as a third-party candidate for President.

That video changes to another video when I click it?

That’s so weird. I can’t find it in TouTube at all now. WTF?

Here’s the article in Mediaite with the video

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stacey-abrams-denies-double-standard-on-joe-biden-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-claims/

[Stannis]

Kamela Harris from April 2019:

Harris: 'I believe' Biden accusers

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers

[Stannis]

That’s so weird. I can’t find it in TouTube at all now. WTF?

Here’s the article in Mediaite with the video

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stacey-abrams-denies-double-standard-on-joe-biden-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-claims/

lol you can tell she wanted to Say "Joe Biden's love for women", but caught herself (that would have sounded creepy af) and said People, community, etc.

[HighRyzer83]

Did you see Stacey Abrams interview with Don Lemon on CNN tonight? Don caught her with a couple jabs on her hypocritical positions re the sexual assault allegations against Justice Kavanaugh and Joe Biden. She did not come off well. Whatever help she'd be in terms of the black vote will be lost in terms of the women's vote.

@29:40

Also, in what could be described only as a dish of revenge served cold to Trump, Justin Amash is running as a third-party candidate for President.

That video changes to another video when I click it?

That’s so weird. I can’t find it in TouTube at all now. WTF?

Here’s the article in Mediaite with the video

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stacey-abrams-denies-double-standard-on-joe-biden-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-claims/

Yeah that's weird that video changed. The one that it changed to is literally indicative of a Russian bot account lol wtf

[HarthorneWingo]

That video changes to another video when I click it?

That’s so weird. I can’t find it in TouTube at all now. WTF?

Here’s the article in Mediaite with the video

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stacey-abrams-denies-double-standard-on-joe-biden-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-claims/

Yeah that's weird that video changed. The one that it changed to is literally indicative of a Russian bot account lol wtf

I know! What's up with that? Biden is working with the Russians now.

[HarthorneWingo]

Kamela Harris from April 2019:

Harris: 'I believe' Biden accusers

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers

UPDATE: Sen. Kristen Gillebrand has spoken out on the Tara Reade sexual assault allegations and, true to her strong held beliefs in supporting the #MeeToo movement and rooting out all of those men who dare to think about abusing a woman's body - like her movement to oust Al Franken from the Senate - she has come out and fully endorsed Joe Biden! Sike.

Watch on YouTube

---------------------------------------------------------------

Oh my! Unseal her employment records, Joe.

Watch on YouTube

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/biden-should-release-his-papers/610801/

Biden Should Release His Papers
His senatorial records may contain evidence relevant to Tara Reade’s accusation.
April 28, 2020
Peter Beinart
Professor of journalism at the City University of New York

Tara Reade’s allegation against Joe Biden is not going away. Reade, who worked on his Senate staff in the 1990s, accuses Biden of sexually assaulting her in a hallway. Last week, The Intercept discovered a 1993 call to the talk-show host Larry King from a woman who Reade says was her now-deceased mother. The call, which refers to “problems” that the woman’s daughter had while “working for a prominent senator,” does not prove that Reade is telling the truth. But it does buttress her claim that she told her mother about an assault at the time.

Then, yesterday, Business Insider interviewed a former neighbor who said, on the record, that Reade told her in the mid-’90s that Biden had pushed her against a wall and put his fingers under her skirt. Business Insider also talked to a woman who worked with Reade after she left Biden’s office, who remembered Reade saying she had been sexually harassed by her boss in Washington, D.C.

None of this means Biden is guilty. But it does mean the presumptive Democratic nominee should unseal his Senate papers so that the public has a better chance of finding out.

In 2012, Biden delivered 1,875 boxes of “photographs, documents, videotapes, and files” and 415 gigabytes of electronic records to his alma mater, the University of Delaware. They covered his entire 36-year Senate career. At the time, the university said it expected to make the papers “available to the public two years after Biden’s last day in elected public office.” Biden left the vice presidency in January 2017, and January 2019 came and went with no papers released. Then, on April 24, 2019, the day before Biden announced his presidential campaign, the university revised the schedule. The papers would now remain sealed until December 31, 2019, or until two years after Biden “retires from public life,” whichever came later. That means Americans likely won’t learn what’s in his papers before they vote for president this fall.

That delay was unfortunate even before Reade made her allegation public. As The Washington Post and HuffPost noted last year, Biden’s papers may help explain some of his most consequential actions in the Senate: his conduct during the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill hearings, his sponsorship of the 1994 crime bill, his vote for the Iraq War.

But Reade’s accusations make access to the papers even more crucial. Biden himself has said that sexual-harassment claims should be carefully investigated. When Christine Blasey Ford alleged, after Brett Kavanaugh was nominated tot the Supreme Court, that he had tried to rape her in high school, Biden said the Senate Judiciary Committee “should undertake a thorough and nonpartisan effort to get to the truth, wherever it leads.” When Reade herself came forward, Biden’s campaign said her claims should “be diligently reviewed by an independent press.”

But the press can’t thoroughly and diligently evaluate Reade’s claims without access to Biden’s papers. Reade attests that she filed a sexual-harassment complaint with the Senate against Biden in 1993, but she doesn’t have a copy. The Biden campaign says it doesn’t either. And neither The New York Times nor The Washington Post could unearth one. Reade says she “was told” that the document “was probably returned to Biden’s office. So it’s an archival material.” Is that true? Who knows. But unsealing Biden’s papers could help reporters find out.

-more-

[HighRyzer83]

Kamela Harris from April 2019:

Harris: 'I believe' Biden accusers

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers

UPDATE: Sen. Kristen Gillebrand has spoken out on the Tara Reade sexual assault allegations and, true to her strong held beliefs in supporting the #MeeToo movement and rooting out all of those men who dare to think about abusing a woman's body - like her movement to oust Al Franken from the Senate - she has come out and fully endorsed Joe Biden! Sike.

Watch on YouTube

---------------------------------------------------------------

Oh my! Unseal her employment records, Joe.

Watch on YouTube

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/biden-should-release-his-papers/610801/

Biden Should Release His Papers
His senatorial records may contain evidence relevant to Tara Reade’s accusation.
April 28, 2020
Peter Beinart
Professor of journalism at the City University of New York

Tara Reade’s allegation against Joe Biden is not going away. Reade, who worked on his Senate staff in the 1990s, accuses Biden of sexually assaulting her in a hallway. Last week, The Intercept discovered a 1993 call to the talk-show host Larry King from a woman who Reade says was her now-deceased mother. The call, which refers to “problems” that the woman’s daughter had while “working for a prominent senator,” does not prove that Reade is telling the truth. But it does buttress her claim that she told her mother about an assault at the time.

Then, yesterday, Business Insider interviewed a former neighbor who said, on the record, that Reade told her in the mid-’90s that Biden had pushed her against a wall and put his fingers under her skirt. Business Insider also talked to a woman who worked with Reade after she left Biden’s office, who remembered Reade saying she had been sexually harassed by her boss in Washington, D.C.

None of this means Biden is guilty. But it does mean the presumptive Democratic nominee should unseal his Senate papers so that the public has a better chance of finding out.

In 2012, Biden delivered 1,875 boxes of “photographs, documents, videotapes, and files” and 415 gigabytes of electronic records to his alma mater, the University of Delaware. They covered his entire 36-year Senate career. At the time, the university said it expected to make the papers “available to the public two years after Biden’s last day in elected public office.” Biden left the vice presidency in January 2017, and January 2019 came and went with no papers released. Then, on April 24, 2019, the day before Biden announced his presidential campaign, the university revised the schedule. The papers would now remain sealed until December 31, 2019, or until two years after Biden “retires from public life,” whichever came later. That means Americans likely won’t learn what’s in his papers before they vote for president this fall.

That delay was unfortunate even before Reade made her allegation public. As The Washington Post and HuffPost noted last year, Biden’s papers may help explain some of his most consequential actions in the Senate: his conduct during the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill hearings, his sponsorship of the 1994 crime bill, his vote for the Iraq War.

But Reade’s accusations make access to the papers even more crucial. Biden himself has said that sexual-harassment claims should be carefully investigated. When Christine Blasey Ford alleged, after Brett Kavanaugh was nominated tot the Supreme Court, that he had tried to rape her in high school, Biden said the Senate Judiciary Committee “should undertake a thorough and nonpartisan effort to get to the truth, wherever it leads.” When Reade herself came forward, Biden’s campaign said her claims should “be diligently reviewed by an independent press.”

But the press can’t thoroughly and diligently evaluate Reade’s claims without access to Biden’s papers. Reade attests that she filed a sexual-harassment complaint with the Senate against Biden in 1993, but she doesn’t have a copy. The Biden campaign says it doesn’t either. And neither The New York Times nor The Washington Post could unearth one. Reade says she “was told” that the document “was probably returned to Biden’s office. So it’s an archival material.” Is that true? Who knows. But unsealing Biden’s papers could help reporters find out.

-more-

Wow So that whole movement was just manufactured for policital gain. What a 2faced POS she is.

[HarthorneWingo]

Kamela Harris from April 2019:

Harris: 'I believe' Biden accusers

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers

UPDATE: Sen. Kristen Gillebrand has spoken out on the Tara Reade sexual assault allegations and, true to her strong held beliefs in supporting the #MeeToo movement and rooting out all of those men who dare to think about abusing a woman's body - like her movement to oust Al Franken from the Senate - she has come out and fully endorsed Joe Biden! Sike.

Watch on YouTube

---------------------------------------------------------------

Oh my! Unseal her employment records, Joe.

Watch on YouTube

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/biden-should-release-his-papers/610801/

Biden Should Release His Papers
His senatorial records may contain evidence relevant to Tara Reade’s accusation.
April 28, 2020
Peter Beinart
Professor of journalism at the City University of New York

Tara Reade’s allegation against Joe Biden is not going away. Reade, who worked on his Senate staff in the 1990s, accuses Biden of sexually assaulting her in a hallway. Last week, The Intercept discovered a 1993 call to the talk-show host Larry King from a woman who Reade says was her now-deceased mother. The call, which refers to “problems” that the woman’s daughter had while “working for a prominent senator,” does not prove that Reade is telling the truth. But it does buttress her claim that she told her mother about an assault at the time.

Then, yesterday, Business Insider interviewed a former neighbor who said, on the record, that Reade told her in the mid-’90s that Biden had pushed her against a wall and put his fingers under her skirt. Business Insider also talked to a woman who worked with Reade after she left Biden’s office, who remembered Reade saying she had been sexually harassed by her boss in Washington, D.C.

None of this means Biden is guilty. But it does mean the presumptive Democratic nominee should unseal his Senate papers so that the public has a better chance of finding out.

In 2012, Biden delivered 1,875 boxes of “photographs, documents, videotapes, and files” and 415 gigabytes of electronic records to his alma mater, the University of Delaware. They covered his entire 36-year Senate career. At the time, the university said it expected to make the papers “available to the public two years after Biden’s last day in elected public office.” Biden left the vice presidency in January 2017, and January 2019 came and went with no papers released. Then, on April 24, 2019, the day before Biden announced his presidential campaign, the university revised the schedule. The papers would now remain sealed until December 31, 2019, or until two years after Biden “retires from public life,” whichever came later. That means Americans likely won’t learn what’s in his papers before they vote for president this fall.

That delay was unfortunate even before Reade made her allegation public. As The Washington Post and HuffPost noted last year, Biden’s papers may help explain some of his most consequential actions in the Senate: his conduct during the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill hearings, his sponsorship of the 1994 crime bill, his vote for the Iraq War.

But Reade’s accusations make access to the papers even more crucial. Biden himself has said that sexual-harassment claims should be carefully investigated. When Christine Blasey Ford alleged, after Brett Kavanaugh was nominated tot the Supreme Court, that he had tried to rape her in high school, Biden said the Senate Judiciary Committee “should undertake a thorough and nonpartisan effort to get to the truth, wherever it leads.” When Reade herself came forward, Biden’s campaign said her claims should “be diligently reviewed by an independent press.”

But the press can’t thoroughly and diligently evaluate Reade’s claims without access to Biden’s papers. Reade attests that she filed a sexual-harassment complaint with the Senate against Biden in 1993, but she doesn’t have a copy. The Biden campaign says it doesn’t either. And neither The New York Times nor The Washington Post could unearth one. Reade says she “was told” that the document “was probably returned to Biden’s office. So it’s an archival material.” Is that true? Who knows. But unsealing Biden’s papers could help reporters find out.

-more-

Wow So that whole movement was just manufactured for policital gain. What a 2faced POS she is.

Yeah, Gillibrand is a real POS. She went on a rampage over a comedic photo of Al Frankenstein on a USO trip to entertain the troops from 40 years ago where he’s shown acting like he’s going to grab the breasts of a female comedian who had fallen asleep in her chair. Al, however, is one of these people who would hug his woman friends longer than they wanted and would kiss then on the lips when greeting them. Kinda inappropriate. And that was used to bootstrap Gillibrand’s Cade against him. Franken ended up ha omg to resign from the Senate. Now, all of a sudden it’s all okay so long as it’s Biden ... and what Biden allegedly did is in fact a crime.

[Stannis]

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/fire-chris-hayes-joe-biden/

So now people want Chris Hayes fired because he addressed the Biden news.

Is this what it's really coming to? Are we not allowed to criticize Biden? Why is everyone expected to coddle him like he's some helpless 8 year old child who doesn't know better?

We bitch about abuse of power, but fact of the matter is Biden would be screwed if he wasn't running against Trump. Plain and simple.

Can we call these people defending Biden "Biden-Bros"?

[Stannis]

Biden-Bros after watching Chris Hayes:

"Fake News!"