Summer League Gm 3: Knicks vs Lakers 10PM EST

[god shammgod]

the entire thread wasn't even about basketball. It's simply amazing.

You can’t blame us for celebrating the end of torture we suffered from you guys for 4 years

Compared to you announcing what newly invented piece of garbage you’re eating today, I’d say the future looks grim

listen, we're all gonna die soon from an impending climate disaster way before some double stuffed pineapple upside down cake flavored oreos kills melo. he might have the right idea. i'm busy trying to be healthy like a moron.

[robillionaire]

People out here talking like summer league tells you the future. We done seen many players who played well in SL play like trash in the NBA and plenty of players who sucked in the SL and played much better in the NBA.

I’m not even an RJ fan like that but he is obviously better than what summer league showed. So let’s relax with the hot takes lol

I can easily breakdown why RJ’s SL #’s didn’t forecast a negative outlook.

• He was being aggressive
• He was able to dribble a basketball
• He was more effective defensively
• His size was as advertised
• His size showed more promise for defensive switchability
• He showed more promise as a playmaker
• He has an alpha mentality
• He was not running from the basketball, turning down shots

Etc.

You must’ve forgotten how everyone was calling him a bust he was throwing up airballs and his shots were hitting backboard only. He showed no ability to create his shot and kept throwing up garbage at the rim.

this is true and what happened? RJ was trash in his rookie season, shot poor percentages and didn't make an all-rookie team, I guess we should have believed what we saw in summer league, only difference is he was 18 with a good physical profile and had time to develop and improve and grimes is allegedly a finished product. not looking good!

[robillionaire]

You can’t blame us for celebrating the end of torture we suffered from you guys for 4 years

Compared to you announcing what newly invented piece of garbage you’re eating today, I’d say the future looks grim

listen, we're all gonna die soon from an embedding climate disaster way before some double stuffed pineapple upside down cake flavored oreos kills melo. he might have the right idea. i'm busy trying to be healthy like a moron.

this guy thinks he's going to survive the ultra lethal gamma variant of covid to see climate apocalypse, hilarious

[Clyde_Style]

You can’t blame us for celebrating the end of torture we suffered from you guys for 4 years

Compared to you announcing what newly invented piece of garbage you’re eating today, I’d say the future looks grim

listen, we're all gonna die soon from an embedding climate disaster way before some double stuffed pineapple upside down cake flavored oreos kills melo. he might have the right idea. i'm busy trying to be healthy like a moron.

While you’re canoeing down the IRT train tracks they’ll morph into a horrifying gummy substance that unfortunately retains the ability to type

Boating for the win

[god shammgod]

Compared to you announcing what newly invented piece of garbage you’re eating today, I’d say the future looks grim

listen, we're all gonna die soon from an embedding climate disaster way before some double stuffed pineapple upside down cake flavored oreos kills melo. he might have the right idea. i'm busy trying to be healthy like a moron.

this guy thinks he's going to survive the ultra lethal gamma variant of covid to see climate apocalypse, hilarious

i cant even keep up with the names. i think i saw one called the lambada variant. killed by the forbidden dance is a f*cked up way to go.

[Reign23]

damn 51 pages. are you kidding? should I read a few or just the usual 200 frank-hate posts from melo ?

Taking the frank departure hard I see. Very sad!

uhmm yes, exactly my point.

[Gravy]

Hope for Grimes?
List of worst summer league performances from 2015 article:
https://www.complex.com/sports/2015/07/nba-stars-terrible-summer-league-debuts/

DeAndre Jordan
Patrick Beverley
Marcin Gortat
Nicolas Batum Summer League stats: 5 games, 27.1 MPG, 6.8 PPG, 34.3 FG%, 11.1 3-pt%, 56.2 FT%
David West
Danny Green: Summer League stats: 5 games, 20.5 MPG, 8.2 PPG, 36.4 FG%, 29.4 3-PT%, 2.6 RPG
Trey Burke
Greivis Vasquez
Serge Ibaka
Wesley Matthews: Summer League stats: 8 games, 7.7 PPG, 34.7 FG%, 21.4 3-PT%, 0.7 APG, 1.3 RPG

[3toheadmelo]

Melo did.

Spoiler:

To be fair he was in the 96th percentile in pull up jumpers and 70th percentile in isolations. So it’s not like I was making it up. I think he’s trying to hard to fit in and doesn’t want to take any bad shots. He’s strictly playing as a spot up shooter.

Oh now you an analytics nerd. Now you Tommy Beer?

Melo having an identity crisis.

It seems like you having a identity crisis cause you said this the other day

Not gonna front, I was irritated on draft night. I’m coming around on him though.

I threw out Dillon Brooks as my comp. If he can be that plus with the ball skills he was billed to have heading into college, then we in good shape.

[TerrenceClarke]

People out here talking like summer league tells you the future. We done seen many players who played well in SL play like trash in the NBA and plenty of players who sucked in the SL and played much better in the NBA.

I’m not even an RJ fan like that but he is obviously better than what summer league showed. So let’s relax with the hot takes lol

Bruh, ya just dancing around the fact that your man is buns. At least RJ had heart with poor numbers. Grimes looks shook.

You the same guy who was drinking the kool aid and even said he was more than a 3 and D cause of the DX vid. 2010 too said he was starting to feel Grimes more. I hate both of you guys. Flip flopping ass mfers!!!

Bruh I cant front, that first batch you made was tasting good.

But I also told you from the rip I didnt like pick. I just warmed up a little cause I had no choice he became a Knick. I will admit its still early but he has done nothing that gives me hope that I will like him as a player. Everything about the DX video seems like a lie to me now.

[Clyde_Style]

listen, we're all gonna die soon from an embedding climate disaster way before some double stuffed pineapple upside down cake flavored oreos kills melo. he might have the right idea. i'm busy trying to be healthy like a moron.

this guy thinks he's going to survive the ultra lethal gamma variant of covid to see climate apocalypse, hilarious

i cant even keep up with the names. i think i saw one called the lambada variant. killed by the forbidden dance is a f*cked up way to go.

I’d put my money on the Cool Jerk Variant wiping us all out

[2010]

At some point people gotta hold the decision makers accountable.

Stop justifying bad/mediocre picks by saying “it was the 25th pick” or “the odds are you are gonna get a role player at best at that slot.”

At the end of the day, you have to start judging the basketball people by who they passed on, no merely the slot.

Stop falling for the okie doke and attempting to justify mediocrity.

Anyone who has functioned in a leadership role knows when a chance for success is blown, a meeting is called and decision-makers are made to explain why they weren’t the ones who capitalized on an opportunity to coral success when it was in reach. In this scenario the leadership figure will ascertain if the tools were in place to allow us to recognize and coral the successful scenario. If they are, then someone didn’t do their job and must be held accountable.

If this was Deathrow Records, someone would be getting hands and feet put on them in the Red Room right now.

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

[Clyde_Style]

At some point people gotta hold the decision makers accountable.

Stop justifying bad/mediocre picks by saying “it was the 25th pick” or “the odds are you are gonna get a role player at best at that slot.”

At the end of the day, you have to start judging the basketball people by who they passed on, no merely the slot.

Stop falling for the okie doke and attempting to justify mediocrity.

Anyone who has functioned in a leadership role knows when a chance for success is blown, a meeting is called and decision-makers are made to explain why they weren’t the ones who capitalized on an opportunity to coral success when it was in reach. In this scenario the leadership figure will ascertain if the tools were in place to allow us to recognize and coral the successful scenario. If they are, then someone didn’t do their job and must be held accountable.

If this was Deathrow Records, someone would be getting hands and feet put on them in the Red Room right now.

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

So much pissing and moaning. McBride looks fantastic. The grass is always greener elsewhere

[Reign23]

the meltdown in here after mrbrides dnp in the regular season opener will be....something.

[3toheadmelo]

Bruh, ya just dancing around the fact that your man is buns. At least RJ had heart with poor numbers. Grimes looks shook.

You the same guy who was drinking the kool aid and even said he was more than a 3 and D cause of the DX vid. 2010 too said he was starting to feel Grimes more. I hate both of you guys. Flip flopping ass mfers!!!

Bruh I cant front, that first batch you made was tasting good.

But I also told you from the rip I didnt like pick. I just warmed up a little cause I had no choice he became a Knick. I will admit its still early but he has done nothing that gives me hope that I will like him as a player. Everything about the DX video seems like a lie to me now.

You know I wanted Bones more than anything and I also kept saying we should taken Jalen Johnson if he fell to us and he did. Grimes wasn’t even close to being my first choice and you know that man.

So I’m disappointed with you as well that he ain’t showing those skills from the DX vid. I thought the pick sorta made sense (and still could) but I can’t front he look nothing like what I thought he was. Even in the combine he was gunning like crazy. Now he timid. We just gotta see if he breaks out of that. Obi looks like he did so there’s some hope for Grimes.

[god shammgod]

At some point people gotta hold the decision makers accountable.

Stop justifying bad/mediocre picks by saying “it was the 25th pick” or “the odds are you are gonna get a role player at best at that slot.”

At the end of the day, you have to start judging the basketball people by who they passed on, no merely the slot.

Stop falling for the okie doke and attempting to justify mediocrity.

Anyone who has functioned in a leadership role knows when a chance for success is blown, a meeting is called and decision-makers are made to explain why they weren’t the ones who capitalized on an opportunity to coral success when it was in reach. In this scenario the leadership figure will ascertain if the tools were in place to allow us to recognize and coral the successful scenario. If they are, then someone didn’t do their job and must be held accountable.

If this was Deathrow Records, someone would be getting hands and feet put on them in the Red Room right now.

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

yeah. i complained about this thought process on draft night. everything shouldn't be in service of maintaining a 1st round exit. and everything they did this summer was. the pom pom crowd gets mad at me when i say this stuff but i don't think that should be the front office's primary focus. they should be thinking beyond that. even if your plan is to trade for a star, having young guys who look like they have more upside will help you get there. and you need to let those kids play so other teams notice them.

[2010]

To be fair he was in the 96th percentile in pull up jumpers and 70th percentile in isolations. So it’s not like I was making it up. I think he’s trying to hard to fit in and doesn’t want to take any bad shots. He’s strictly playing as a spot up shooter.

Oh now you an analytics nerd. Now you Tommy Beer?

Melo having an identity crisis.

It seems like you having a identity crisis cause you said this the other day

Not gonna front, I was irritated on draft night. I’m coming around on him though.

I threw out Dillon Brooks as my comp. If he can be that plus with the ball skills he was billed to have [BY MELO] heading into college, then we in good shape.

This is after Melo spent a full day or two tryna be The Company Man, justifying the pick and posting videos tryna convince us all that he was an underrated shot creator.

This man they fall Melo must be a relative of Fizdale. He will sell you snake oil in a hood cologne oil vial off The Ave.

[robillionaire]

At some point people gotta hold the decision makers accountable.

Stop justifying bad/mediocre picks by saying “it was the 25th pick” or “the odds are you are gonna get a role player at best at that slot.”

At the end of the day, you have to start judging the basketball people by who they passed on, no merely the slot.

Stop falling for the okie doke and attempting to justify mediocrity.

Anyone who has functioned in a leadership role knows when a chance for success is blown, a meeting is called and decision-makers are made to explain why they weren’t the ones who capitalized on an opportunity to coral success when it was in reach. In this scenario the leadership figure will ascertain if the tools were in place to allow us to recognize and coral the successful scenario. If they are, then someone didn’t do their job and must be held accountable.

If this was Deathrow Records, someone would be getting hands and feet put on them in the Red Room right now.

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

we are taking the "F them kids" approach and I'm fine with it. the future 1st and 2nd we got from pushing the picks back was the prize of the draft, that's playing the long game because they want to use them to trade for a star later. thibs isn't here to babysit low character guys who quit on his team like jalen johnson or guys too small to play defense like cooper

and then maybe they lucked into a nice player with mcbride? I'm not mad about it

[mpharris36]

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

we are taking the "F them kids" approach and I'm fine with it. the future 1st and 2nd we got from pushing the picks back was the prize of the draft, that's playing the long game because they want to use them to trade for a star later. thibs isn't here to babysit low character guys who quit on his team like jalen johnson or guys too small to play defense like cooper

and then maybe they lucked into a nice player with mcbride? I'm not mad about it

I was really depressed with the protections on that pick though.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Tonight game breakdown from another forum:


Jericho Sims - Sims had a good game. He rebounded well and didn’t get a lot of lob opportunities and also played some really good defense. Not much more to say here other than he continues to massively over perform his draft position. Also, he set some really elite screens that would be considered elite even in the NBA. Interestingly, Sims attempted a three this game.

Stats: 7 pts, 2 rebs, 1 ast, 2 blks, 4 to on 3/4 FG and 0/1 from three in 30 mins

Summer League So Far/Projection: Looks good as rebounder, shot blocker, lob threat, rim runner, rim protector, finisher. Vastly overperforming draft position. Projecting as making a case for the rotation if we didn't have a stacked center room.
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Blue and orange lenses.

Obi was on fire from three tonight. 2-6 from 3.
Sims rebounded well. 2 rebounds.

Yeah, a lot of that was a bit cringe to read.

The Sims comment was the one that caught my attention because I was wondering while watching the game why he didn’t seem to grab many rebounds. And this recap says he rebounded well.

I think he works and is active, maybe he is just raw and not boxing out properly. Not trashing Sims, just saying you can see why he was a late pick. High potential if he works at it.

He is definitely an interesting pick at 58. Playing above his pay grade but...you can see he is still a bit raw. Some coaching up may help him become a solid player. Fun to watch the kids play together and pick up a couple of wins.

[3toheadmelo]

Oh now you an analytics nerd. Now you Tommy Beer?

Melo having an identity crisis.

It seems like you having a identity crisis cause you said this the other day

Not gonna front, I was irritated on draft night. I’m coming around on him though.

I threw out Dillon Brooks as my comp. If he can be that plus with the ball skills he was billed to have [BY MELO] heading into college, then we in good shape.

This is after Melo spent a full day or two tryna be The Company Man, justifying the pick and post video tryna convince us all that he was an underrated shot creator.

This man they fall Melo must be a relative of Fizdale. He will sell you snake oil in an hood cologne oil vial off The Ave.

Lies!!

That post you made was directly quoting the DX video that TerrenceClarke posted. Direct your anger towards Mike Schmitz bruh