Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

[R-DAWG]

Anyone out there on any team making what Sims makes but doesn't suck? That maybe they'd trade for Sims if they get a 2nd rounder from the Knicks on top of having to endure Sims?

I don't care what position this player plays.

Trade Sims and two second round picks and cash to cover his salary for one second round pick. Buy something with the freed salary. TJ Warren perhaps or Lessort

I would not be surprised if we re-sign Sims for around 6M/y only to work as a filler in a trade next season.

But if we could dump his salary using an SRP to be able to sign a better vet would be nice.

Sims only value right now is his bird rights next year if NY elects to operate over the 2nd apron. With +/- 9mm of room below the 2nd apron with only 10 players, it’s going to be hard to have more than 4 min sal guys.

[robillionaire]

Anyone out there on any team making what Sims makes but doesn't suck? That maybe they'd trade for Sims if they get a 2nd rounder from the Knicks on top of having to endure Sims?

I don't care what position this player plays.

Anybody know Tonya Harding’s phone number? He has to be stopped

[Riot Randolph]

Big question is we are packaging Dadiet and Sims for whom?

[Richard4444]

Big question is we are packaging Dadiet and Sims for whom?

We can not package 2 min players anymore. I am unsure if Dadlet counts as a min guy (he is on the rookie's scale but earns less than the vet min).

[Spree2Houston]

Richard has become our Gateskeeper for this thread lol

[sol537]

I'm thinking we don't make any trades this season... we just let Precious, Mitch, and Shamet return and then we try to find our groove in the 2nd half into the playoffs. We have more than enough to get to the ECF.

The off-season is when we could make tweaks, if necessary.

[stuporman]

Big question is we are packaging Dadiet and Sims for whom?

We can not package 2 min players anymore. I am unsure if Dadlet counts as a min guy (he is on the rookie's scale but earns less than the vet min).

Here's a quick list of what teams can or can't do under the different aprons and the Knicks currently can trade multiple players. That's a second apron restriction that the Knicks are under it by a few hundred thousand right now. I don't think any team can package multiple min players and have it accumulate as trade salary, I think it's not just apron teams.

[HarthorneWingo]

Why don’t we bring TJ Warren up from Weschester?

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Why don’t we bring TJ Warren up from Weschester?

no way to pay him

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm thinking we don't make any trades this season... we just let Precious, Mitch, and Shamet return and then we try to find our groove in the 2nd half into the playoffs. We have more than enough to get to the ECF.

The off-season is when we could make tweaks, if necessary.

While the second apron is $188.9 million in 2024-25, it's projected to jump to $207.8 million in 2025-26 and nearly $228.6 million in 2026-27.

We will be at $196.5mil next season give or take a couple hundred thousand without Precious/Payne/Sims/Ryan if we don't do anything else this year. They make a combined $13mil according to hoops hype and a million less according to BBRef. We would be a million or so over the second apron keeping these salaries the same next year.

Not sure how accurate these numbers are but, they are close. It's too early to tell what we will be in the hook for but, after the TDL we will know more.

Edit... there's also the Bridges extension coming next year as well...should count toward the following season if am not mistaken. Should be interesting to see what the team does moving forward.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Why don’t we bring TJ Warren up from Weschester?

no way to pay him

I believe after a certain date we can swap out Ryan for another player making the vet minimum. Not sure what that date is but, I can swear I read that somewhere on here.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Why don’t we bring TJ Warren up from Weschester?

no way to pay him

I believe after a certain date we can swap out Ryan for another player making the vet minimum. Not sure what that date is but, I can swear I read that somewhere on here.

The Knicks can't swap out Ryan. That's not how contacts work.

What they can do is sign another vet min player on 24th February (or any time thereafter).

[HarthorneWingo]

no way to pay him

I believe after a certain date we can swap out Ryan for another player making the vet minimum. Not sure what that date is but, I can swear I read that somewhere on here.

The Knicks can't swap out Ryan. That's not how contacts work.

What they can do is sign another vet min player on 24th February (or any time thereafter).

Shamet?

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I'm thinking we don't make any trades this season... we just let Precious, Mitch, and Shamet return and then we try to find our groove in the 2nd half into the playoffs. We have more than enough to get to the ECF.

The off-season is when we could make tweaks, if necessary.

While the second apron is $188.9 million in 2024-25, it's projected to jump to $207.8 million in 2025-26 and nearly $228.6 million in 2026-27.

We will be at $196.5mil next season give or take a couple hundred thousand without Precious/Payne/Sims/Ryan if we don't do anything else this year. They make a combined $13mil according to hoops hype and a million less according to BBRef. We would be a million or so over the second apron keeping these salaries the same next year.

Not sure how accurate these numbers are but, they are close. It's too early to tell what we will be in the hook for but, after the TDL we will know more.

Edit... there's also the Bridges extension coming next year as well...should count toward the following season if am not mistaken. Should be interesting to see what the team does moving forward.

The salaries of those four combine to just under 12.1m for apron calculating purposes

Next year the vet min for apron purposes is projected to be 2.3m. (Everything goes up the same percentage - the assumption is that it will be the maximum allowed under the new CBA, 10%.)

They could perhaps chisel the vet min salaries down to just over 2.1m each if they wait for the first two weeks of the season to go by before signing anyone (as they did with Ryan (and Hukporti) this year). However that does risk losing the players.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I believe after a certain date we can swap out Ryan for another player making the vet minimum. Not sure what that date is but, I can swear I read that somewhere on here.

The Knicks can't swap out Ryan. That's not how contacts work.

What they can do is sign another vet min player on 24th February (or any time thereafter).

Shamet?

Sure. Or TJ.

[Jalen Bluntson]

no way to pay him

I believe after a certain date we can swap out Ryan for another player making the vet minimum. Not sure what that date is but, I can swear I read that somewhere on here.

The Knicks can't swap out Ryan. That's not how contacts work.

What they can do is sign another vet min player on 24th February (or any time thereafter).

Doesn't that put us over the second apron? I wasn't paying attention to what I read that day because reasons but, how can we bring back Shamet or whoever without going over the threshold? I am lost there. Is it because the remaining salary fits under the apron? Am I answering my own question? I hate these new rules!!

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I believe after a certain date we can swap out Ryan for another player making the vet minimum. Not sure what that date is but, I can swear I read that somewhere on here.

The Knicks can't swap out Ryan. That's not how contacts work.

What they can do is sign another vet min player on 24th February (or any time thereafter).

Doesn't that put us over the second apron? I wasn't paying attention to what I read that day because reasons but, how can we bring back Shamet or whoever without going over the threshold? I am lost there. Is it because the remaining salary fits under the apron? Am I answering my own question? I hate these new rules!!

Yes, for minimum salary contracts the apron (and cap) hit diminishes pro-rata. With what's left of the room before the second apron the Knicks can sign a vet min player on or after 24th February. (Or a rookie on or after iirc 12th December.)

[Jalen Bluntson]

The Knicks can't swap out Ryan. That's not how contacts work.

What they can do is sign another vet min player on 24th February (or any time thereafter).

Doesn't that put us over the second apron? I wasn't paying attention to what I read that day because reasons but, how can we bring back Shamet or whoever without going over the threshold? I am lost there. Is it because the remaining salary fits under the apron? Am I answering my own question? I hate these new rules!!

Yes, for minimum salary contracts the apron (and cap) hit diminishes pro-rata. With what's left of the room before the second apron the Knicks can sign a vet min player on or after 24th February. (Or a rookie on or after iirc 12th December.)

You da man! Thanks for clearing that up. That's right around the trade deadline too right?

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Doesn't that put us over the second apron? I wasn't paying attention to what I read that day because reasons but, how can we bring back Shamet or whoever without going over the threshold? I am lost there. Is it because the remaining salary fits under the apron? Am I answering my own question? I hate these new rules!!

Yes, for minimum salary contracts the apron (and cap) hit diminishes pro-rata. With what's left of the room before the second apron the Knicks can sign a vet min player on or after 24th February. (Or a rookie on or after iirc 12th December.)

You da man! Thanks for clearing that up. That's right around the trade deadline too right?

The trade deadline is, I believe, 6th February.

[Richard4444]

I'm thinking we don't make any trades this season... we just let Precious, Mitch, and Shamet return and then we try to find our groove in the 2nd half into the playoffs. We have more than enough to get to the ECF.

The off-season is when we could make tweaks, if necessary.

While the second apron is $188.9 million in 2024-25, it's projected to jump to $207.8 million in 2025-26 and nearly $228.6 million in 2026-27.

We will be at $196.5mil next season give or take a couple hundred thousand without Precious/Payne/Sims/Ryan if we don't do anything else this year. They make a combined $13mil according to hoops hype and a million less according to BBRef. We would be a million or so over the second apron keeping these salaries the same next year.

Not sure how accurate these numbers are but, they are close. It's too early to tell what we will be in the hook for but, after the TDL we will know more.

Edit... there's also the Bridges extension coming next year as well...should count toward the following season if am not mistaken. Should be interesting to see what the team does moving forward.

Mikal's probable extension will not hit next season.

I don't think we can keep Precious earning around 6M next season assuming we are not going over the second apron unless he accepts a minimum salary and a promise of a longer deal in 2026/27.