Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued

[Montmorencie]

Luka is generational talent. He is not James Harden, Russell Westbrook or Kawhi Leonard. These guys are currently way above him in all time greatness but his ceiling is top 15 all time. With the appropriate diet and the inevitable addition of 1 or more likely 2 other superstars he will bring multiple rings to LA. I just pray LeBron doesn't get any of them.

Adding additional stars or superstars to a Luka Doncic team is counterproductive. You don’t win a title that way.

Luka will never win a chip. He wasn’t going to win in Dallas and he won’t win in LA either.

Three bold ass statement based on what?

1. You win chips mostly by adding superstars. Especially if you are Lakers, the most successful franchise with most rings and they have never developed anyone

2. Luka will never win a chip? Based on what? He's fat? He is lazy? He doesn't play defense? Have you heard of the guy named Nikola Jokic?

3. He wasn't going to win a chip at Dallas, how are u so sure? They just went to the finals to meet the possible toughest match up of all time. Seriously, if I can pick a team of 8 players, with no limits, I will probably take those 8 Celtics at the moment to beat this Mavs.

But he is developing into an injury prone player, I can give you that. Yet, he plays it through, unlike Kawhi or Embiid.

[Guano]

guan0 hating on fox because he's not a fat pg

a DSjr fan talkin brazenly about being a fan of fat pg - have some shame

[Knicks218]

Can we get Kessler, Clarkson and Sexton for Mitch, McBride, Sims, Kolek and Dadiet? Please my trade deadline dream.

[Knicksfan1992]

I actually don't hate the Lavine move for Sacramento but, that probably has more to do with me being higher on Lavine than most. Obviously assuming this isn't the only move they make through this and the next transaction cycle.

A Lavine/Sabonis combo should be pretty potent offensively. They now have more ammo (that 2031 T-Wolves pick is a sneakily really good asset to dangle) to get some better fitting pieces around those 2. Can they find some more two way players?

I would consider dangling Monk for a more defensive oriented guy. Maybe you can get some team to give you spare parts and a pick for Derozan?

Keon Ellis is a nice piece to have long-term. Keegan Murray has been much better the past few months. They have some stuff to work with.

I think they have better optionality with their roster now than they did before.

Do the kings need a backup center? Mitch for Monk

I actually wouldn't hate a deal like that for the Knicks and it would make some sense for the Kings. They'd probably want some more assets. I imagine they would ask for Deuce which the Knicks should politely decline.

The problem with Monk, for me, is that his scoring feels like empty calories sometimes. His defense actually grades out a bit better than the eye test suggests.

I wonder if the Kings are a sneaky Walker Kessler spot now.

[Guano]

This would be true if they traded anything of consequence to get him, but this may as well have been a free agent signing with space because their asset base is still loaded.

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They got out of Zach Collins awful deal and didn't have to send out any young players

Yeah I get all that - theyre core is still intact and they have a lot of capital still. But it's still fox taking up a huge chunk of their cap space. Which could be used for a more efficient player who plays defense.

They have a generational player on a rookie deal for the next 3 seasons and with the way the Hawks season is going they could be right in the running for Flagg or Bailey this summer. Their capspace was never going to be used to actually sign anyone in free agency, everything for them was going to be done through the draft or trades. Look at who Giannis, Jokic and Curry in 22 have won titles with, Wemby is in that class of player, he's not going to need another top 10 player to help him win.

I thought they'd at least have to give up Vassell and a Hawks pick, but the Kings didn't get either while also taking back a bad contract. The Spurs are sitting pretty.

IDK those players you mentioned had some serious help with middleton, murray, klay, dre, iggy. I don't like this cause I do actually enjoy watching fox hoop. he is lightening quick and fearless. so i don't want to come across as a hater here. I just don't know if he really plays winning hoops. the thing is the spurs are a really smart franchise so i tend to trust them. and like you said they have a lot of room to maneuver.

[3toheadmelo]

guan0 hating on fox because he's not a fat pg

a DSjr fan talkin brazenly about being a fan of fat pg - have some shame

When was he ever fat?

[FrozenEnvelope]

We are not trading OG for old ass Butler!

[MrDollarBills]

I thought it was a horrible trade. Is there even a year of salary relief in it for the Kings?


I guess they'll have Monk play PG. He's not bad as secondary facilitator but full time PG? Who knows. Is he that much worse setting up an offense than Brunson?

LaVine is owed like 90+m over the next two years

The Kings are run by idiots.

They truly are. It's shocking that there are always two or three incompetent franchises waiting to bend over to hook up the Lakers and some other team.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/23600/deaaron-fox

Fox roughly 30 million per, so the Kings get to add bad fit, injury risk and 10 million more per year in a league where watching the cap REALLY matters now.

And Fox is two years away from his next deal, which no doubt will pay what LaVine gets or more, but that is still this season and next away.

Basically gifting the Spurs 48 mpg of very good/excellent PG play, and a really fast player who should thrive where Wemby is keeping the paint wide open by camping outside.

And they left San Antonio with a ton of assets left to do more.

Welp. Not my problem

[Guano]

guan0 hating on fox because he's not a fat pg

a DSjr fan talkin brazenly about being a fan of fat pg - have some shame

When was he ever fat?

[MrDollarBills]

Luka dragged the Mavericks to the finals while smoking chesterfield cigarettes and drinking recovery beers and these dudes traded him.

Man listen.

[thebuzzardman]

I actually don't hate the Lavine move for Sacramento but, that probably has more to do with me being higher on Lavine than most. Obviously assuming this isn't the only move they make through this and the next transaction cycle.

A Lavine/Sabonis combo should be pretty potent offensively. They now have more ammo (that 2031 T-Wolves pick is a sneakily really good asset to dangle) to get some better fitting pieces around those 2. Can they find some more two way players?

I would consider dangling Monk for a more defensive oriented guy. Maybe you can get some team to give you spare parts and a pick for Derozan?

Keon Ellis is a nice piece to have long-term. Keegan Murray has been much better the past few months. They have some stuff to work with.

I think they have better optionality with their roster now than they did before.

Do the kings need a backup center? Mitch for Monk

I actually wouldn't hate a deal like that for the Knicks and it would make some sense for the Kings. They'd probably want some more assets. I imagine they would ask for Deuce which the Knicks should politely decline.

The problem with Monk, for me, is that his scoring feels like empty calories sometimes. His defense actually grades out a bit better than the eye test suggests.

I wonder if the Kings are a sneaky Walker Kessler spot now.

It would weaken the Knicks frontcourt depth, though since Mitch never plays, does it really?

They'd have to trust Hukporti is ready, and he probably isn't, otherwise they'd be playing him.

Get what you are saying about Monk. Knicks also need someone 6'8" or 6'9" who can at least play some minutes at the 3, more than they need yet another guard.

Still, he'd be the bonafide scorer the bench needs.

Ultimately, not really the best trade for both teams.

I'll just wait patiently until the Knicks add retreads like Green or Burks.

[MrDollarBills]

Also. Dallas shipped out Luka and now will be forced to max Kyrie, who has been on his best behavior for now. I have a feeling that will change.

[MrDollarBills]

Do the kings need a backup center? Mitch for Monk

I actually wouldn't hate a deal like that for the Knicks and it would make some sense for the Kings. They'd probably want some more assets. I imagine they would ask for Deuce which the Knicks should politely decline.

The problem with Monk, for me, is that his scoring feels like empty calories sometimes. His defense actually grades out a bit better than the eye test suggests.

I wonder if the Kings are a sneaky Walker Kessler spot now.

It would weaken the Knicks frontcourt depth, though since Mitch never plays, does it really?

They'd have to trust Hukporti is ready, and he probably isn't, otherwise they'd be playing him.

Get what you are saying about Monk. Knicks also need someone 6'8" or 6'9" who can at least play some minutes at the 3, more than they need yet another guard.

Still, he'd be the bonafide scorer the bench needs.

Ultimately, not really the best trade for both teams.

I'll just wait patiently until the Knicks add retreads like Green or Burks.

If Leon can trade Mitch to LA for Rui I would be ecstatic. A we need another 3/4 wing

[SelbyCobra]

Also. Dallas shipped out Luka and now will be forced to max Kyrie, who has been on his best behavior for now. I have a feeling that will change.

I've been patiently waiting for the Irving-Adelson bomb to explode for a while now.

[Montmorencie]

Also. Dallas shipped out Luka and now will be forced to max Kyrie, who has been on his best behavior for now. I have a feeling that will change.

Kyrie and AD might be the most untrustworthy duo of superstar champions ever assembled, not gonna lie.

[SelbyCobra]

I don't know that I've ever read a sports article that so politely painted someone so thoroughly as a F*CKING MARK as this paragraph does. My goodness, this is pure ether in The Athletic...

So without the ability to gauge Dončić’s appetite to remain in L.A. long term, the Lakers expressed they couldn’t go all the way in for him, league sources said. And the Mavericks acquiesced, eventually agreeing to deal Dončić, along with Maxi Kleber and Markieff Morris for Davis, Christie and one first-rounder.

[GettinitDone]

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You're dating this 25yo 10 supermodel, you gave her everything (money, time, attention), and she gave you everything back and MORE (sex, cooking, unconditional love, being supportive, banters, ANDDD she's 100% commited, never cheated, etc)

One day out of the blue, you decided to dump her, and when she asked why, you said in her face cuz you're into a 31yo 7 neighborhood babysitter

She said that's cool, peace out and quickly got with someone else (a lucky bastard who somehow kept getting lucky with 10s)

[MrDollarBills]

Also. Dallas shipped out Luka and now will be forced to max Kyrie, who has been on his best behavior for now. I have a feeling that will change.

Kyrie and AD might be the most untrustworthy duo of superstar champions ever assembled, not gonna lie.

I'd take a hungover Luka over either of them. Dead serious.

[MrDollarBills]

Also. Dallas shipped out Luka and now will be forced to max Kyrie, who has been on his best behavior for now. I have a feeling that will change.

I've been patiently waiting for the Irving-Adelson bomb to explode for a while now.

I expect Kyrie to become malignant. And honestly as much as I don't like Kyrie, if he goes off the rails, so be it. Dallas' ownership sucks.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't know that I've ever read a sports article that so politely painted someone so thoroughly as a F*CKING MARK as this paragraph does. My goodness, this is pure ether in The Athletic...

So without the ability to gauge Dončić’s appetite to remain in L.A. long term, the Lakers expressed they couldn’t go all the way in for him, league sources said. And the Mavericks acquiesced, eventually agreeing to deal Dončić, along with Maxi Kleber and Markieff Morris for Davis, Christie and one first-rounder.

This is insane.

No matter what, you get the highest value back possible.

They didn't even try. They gave him away for free. I don't care about Anthony Davis, he is not even on the same plane of existence as Luka in terms of talent and skill.