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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#1141 » by Fat Kat » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:52 pm

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Post#1142 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:02 pm

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We HAVE to drop this DiVo idea unless you’re moving a big salary. It just doesn’t work under the apron and makes our depth issues work.

The last thing we need is to do another overpay because of Villanova. It’s already out the franchise in a bad enough position.


Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.
I'm not giving up all that future potential and present production for Ragu. Those guys a bound to see a bump in playing time this upcoming season and really Dadiet and Kolek could become better players eventually.Bad value move imo.


Kolek is quite redundant to Brunson. Dadiet is a very raw player they have more value to another team as a trade asset.

KAT, Mitch, Huk
OG, KAT
Bridges, OG, Hart
Divo, Hart, Shamet
Brunson, Divo, Wright

Where are the minutes coming? That team is significantly better.
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Post#1143 » by Fury » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:05 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.
I'm not giving up all that future potential and present production for Ragu. Those guys a bound to see a bump in playing time this upcoming season and really Dadiet and Kolek could become better players eventually.Bad value move imo.


Kolek is quite redundant to Brunson. Dadiet is a very raw player they have more value to another team as a trade asset.

KAT, Mitch, Huk
OG, KAT
Bridges, OG, Hart
Divo, Hart, Shamet
Brunson, Divo, Wright

Where are the minutes coming? That team is significantly better.


You gotta stop doing that thing where you put starters on the bench. I know why but it makes the bench look deeper than it is. That bench is literally like the same one we had last year.
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Post#1144 » by JayTWill » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:07 pm

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JayTWill wrote:It's hard for me to get into these wild trade proposals without even knowing who the new head coach will be and what his philosophies will be. At this point it may just make more sense to run it back with a new coach and then see what adjustments need to be made rather than just throwing a random group together and hoping they fit with the new coach. KAT didn't seem like a good fit with Thibs. Maybe Giannis or whoever may not be the right fit with the next coach.


I think we will first make a decision about the core players and only then about the new coach.

Its much more difficult to pull a trade for a star player than to define who will be our next coach.


I don't know. It feels like last off-season there was so much obsession from the fan base and possibly the front office with just adding talent that it completely ignored the fit of the players together and the fit with the coach. Most of the fan base was screaming about this being the best team in the league and the spacing and the Brunson/KAT 2 man game, the "2 big lineups", "Wingstop", the potential of the offense and defense and none of that really came to fruition partially because it completely ignored who the coach was.

All I feel like I learned from this last season is that Brunson/Hart/Mikal/OG/KAT should not play a ton of minutes together under Thibs but that is mostly all we saw last season. Even if Thibs remained it would be difficult for me to make a real assessment of the team since Thibs did the one thing that wasn't working well together all season long.

I don't know if the team is better with OG at the 3 and a better 4 with KAT at the 5. Maybe it's better with Mitch at the 5, KAT at the 4 and Hart or Mikal off the bench. Maybe keep KAT and OG at the 4 and 5. Maybe someone needs to be traded. I don't know because we got such a small sample size of different options.

I know this is just the internet but I feel like it would be pretty irresponsible if the front office started trading for players without getting a new coach first. I would hope the new coach would have some input on who he thinks the best players are for his style or if he thinks he could make better use of the current players.
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Post#1145 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:08 pm

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The Knicks are pursuing a star player while retaining KAT. They believe KAT's potential remains untapped in a modern NBA offense and that his chemistry with Brunson can significantly grow.

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This is what I have been leaning towards since Thibs was fired.....

Buh bye Bridgey

And if this is the case likely not Giannis

The guy who becomes a great possibility is a packaged centered around JJJ at 23M.

Other pieces to add to Bridges (24.9M) as tradeable assets:
Mitch (12.7M)
Hart (19.4M)
McBride (4.33M)
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Post#1146 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:09 pm

Fury wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
RHODEY wrote: I'm not giving up all that future potential and present production for Ragu. Those guys a bound to see a bump in playing time this upcoming season and really Dadiet and Kolek could become better players eventually.Bad value move imo.


Kolek is quite redundant to Brunson. Dadiet is a very raw player they have more value to another team as a trade asset.

KAT, Mitch, Huk
OG, KAT
Bridges, OG, Hart
Divo, Hart, Shamet
Brunson, Divo, Wright

Where are the minutes coming? That team is significantly better.


You gotta stop doing that thing where you put starters on the bench. I know why but it makes the bench look deeper than it is. That bench is literally like the same one we had last year.


Bruh I have 10 different players listed there. Its plenty deep Dawg
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Post#1147 » by Fat » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:30 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#1148 » by Fury » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:33 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Fury wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Kolek is quite redundant to Brunson. Dadiet is a very raw player they have more value to another team as a trade asset.

KAT, Mitch, Huk
OG, KAT
Bridges, OG, Hart
Divo, Hart, Shamet
Brunson, Divo, Wright

Where are the minutes coming? That team is significantly better.


You gotta stop doing that thing where you put starters on the bench. I know why but it makes the bench look deeper than it is. That bench is literally like the same one we had last year.


Bruh I have 10 different players listed there. Its plenty deep Dawg


The bench is literally the same one we have now lol
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Post#1149 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 4, 2025 9:43 pm

Fury wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Fury wrote:
You gotta stop doing that thing where you put starters on the bench. I know why but it makes the bench look deeper than it is. That bench is literally like the same one we had last year.


Bruh I have 10 different players listed there. Its plenty deep Dawg


The bench is literally the same one we have now lol


With a coach that will likely use it...whats your point
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Post#1150 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jun 4, 2025 10:40 pm

Fury wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
RHODEY wrote: I'm not giving up all that future potential and present production for Ragu. Those guys a bound to see a bump in playing time this upcoming season and really Dadiet and Kolek could become better players eventually.Bad value move imo.


Kolek is quite redundant to Brunson. Dadiet is a very raw player they have more value to another team as a trade asset.

KAT, Mitch, Huk
OG, KAT
Bridges, OG, Hart
Divo, Hart, Shamet
Brunson, Divo, Wright

Where are the minutes coming? That team is significantly better.


You gotta stop doing that thing where you put starters on the bench. I know why but it makes the bench look deeper than it is. That bench is literally like the same one we had last year.


That's his schtick. He needs to stick someone at C, PF, and SF before he's happy.
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Post#1151 » by RHODEY » Wed Jun 4, 2025 11:09 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.
I'm not giving up all that future potential and present production for Ragu. Those guys a bound to see a bump in playing time this upcoming season and really Dadiet and Kolek could become better players eventually.Bad value move imo.


Kolek is quite redundant to Brunson. Dadiet is a very raw player they have more value to another team as a trade asset.

KAT, Mitch, Huk
OG, KAT
Bridges, OG, Hart
Divo, Hart, Shamet
Brunson, Divo, Wright

Where are the minutes coming? That team is significantly better.


Kolek was arguably the best playmaker in his draft as a 2nd rounder. Given the fact that Brunson is very ISO heavy tells me they aren't redundant. But even still Id rather move him as a spare part in a bigger trade for a starter. Dadiets is very raw true, which is why you might not want to sell low before learning what he can become...kid is only 19....and This team needs as many 6'8" swingmen as it can get.
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Post#1152 » by Richard4444 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 11:53 pm

JayTWill wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
JayTWill wrote:It's hard for me to get into these wild trade proposals without even knowing who the new head coach will be and what his philosophies will be. At this point it may just make more sense to run it back with a new coach and then see what adjustments need to be made rather than just throwing a random group together and hoping they fit with the new coach. KAT didn't seem like a good fit with Thibs. Maybe Giannis or whoever may not be the right fit with the next coach.


I think we will first make a decision about the core players and only then about the new coach.

Its much more difficult to pull a trade for a star player than to define who will be our next coach.


I don't know. It feels like last off-season there was so much obsession from the fan base and possibly the front office with just adding talent that it completely ignored the fit of the players together and the fit with the coach. Most of the fan base was screaming about this being the best team in the league and the spacing and the Brunson/KAT 2 man game, the "2 big lineups", "Wingstop", the potential of the offense and defense and none of that really came to fruition partially because it completely ignored who the coach was.

All I feel like I learned from this last season is that Brunson/Hart/Mikal/OG/KAT should not play a ton of minutes together under Thibs but that is mostly all we saw last season. Even if Thibs remained it would be difficult for me to make a real assessment of the team since Thibs did the one thing that wasn't working well together all season long.

I don't know if the team is better with OG at the 3 and a better 4 with KAT at the 5. Maybe it's better with Mitch at the 5, KAT at the 4 and Hart or Mikal off the bench. Maybe keep KAT and OG at the 4 and 5. Maybe someone needs to be traded. I don't know because we got such a small sample size of different options.

I know this is just the internet but I feel like it would be pretty irresponsible if the front office started trading for players without getting a new coach first. I would hope the new coach would have some input on who he thinks the best players are for his style or if he thinks he could make better use of the current players.


I think last season, the plan A was to keep ihart. Without him and with mitch injured we had to get another center. And getting KAT was a big opportunity to not take it.

Thus, i think if a great deal to get a star is offered to us, we will take it . They will not care about the coach/star chemistry.
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Post#1153 » by Rodimus921 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 11:54 pm

Report that Phoenix Suns would be the favorites to trade for KAT and KAT and Booker are best friends.

Report that the San Antonio Spurs want Veteran help and want Durant and are willing to trade draft capital to do it

Report that Giannis might want New York

Milwaukee would need draft capital and young players for Giannis if he would want to exit.



Knicks get

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Suns get

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Spurs get

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Bucks get

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Post#1154 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:00 am

Rodimus921 wrote:Report that Phoenix Suns would be the favorites to trade for KAT and KAT and Booker are best friends.

Report that the San Antonio Spurs want Veteran help and want Durant and are willing to trade draft capital to do it

Report that Giannis might want New York

Milwaukee would need draft capital and young players for Giannis if he would want to exit.



Knicks get

Giannis ANTETOKOUNMPO


Suns get

Karl Anthony Towns



Spurs get

Kevin Durant
Knicks 2028 1st round pick




Bucks get

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Knicks 2028 1st round pick swap


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Post#1155 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:04 am

Steve Popper is hearing Jason Kidd.

The relationship is supposedly severely damaged between Kidd and the Mavs. They didn’t even bother to tell him before trading Luka.

I would LOVE this if true.
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Post#1156 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:11 am

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Post#1157 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:18 am

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Uh, if we did reach out it would be tampering.
Tweet doesn't make sense.
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Post#1158 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:18 am

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Dolan felt spurned before by Durant, he'd never approve a trade anyway. :lol:
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Post#1159 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:22 am

KnixinSix wrote:Steve Popper is hearing Jason Kidd.

The relationship is supposedly severely damaged between Kidd and the Mavs. They didn’t even bother to tell him before trading Luka.

I would LOVE this if true.

Is Kidd a good coach?
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Post#1160 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:22 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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Uh, if we did reach out it would be tampering.
Tweet doesn't make sense.


Yes and no...Shams has said that PHX is working directly with Rich Kleiman and Durant to find a new team. With only 1 year left Durant probably has a lot of say where he gets traded. So I'm sure he is working directly with his agent who's indirectly working with teams that may want to acquire him.

Basically I'm sure KD knows which teams have interest and which teams don't.
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