FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc

[Knicksfan1992]

The Sixers should flip Butler to the Lakers before the deadline for a couple young players and draft considerations since the Lakers are a bit desperate right now not to mention Butler will blow up and burn that team to the ground in a heartbeat for any perceived slight.

Why? They have almost a perfect starting 5. Nothing the Lakers give them now is better for them now or in the future if we're being honest... Maybe Lonzo? That's about it.

also, you need a guard or wing who can create his own shot for himself with in the final moments of playoff games. in that respect, butler is their most important piece.

i don't think their starting 5 is perfect however. there's only 1 ball and lots of guys that want it and not enough 3 point shooting. butler and tobias can shoot but they just don't want to hang on the perimeter. what makes golden state such a good super team is that they don't need the ball as much. draymond doesn't. klay doesn't. even curry will just hoist them up a bunch without dribbling. the only one who really does is durant. cousins too now i guess.

I think Tobias will adjust fine and if people watched the Sixers, then they'd know that they haven't been able to survive without Ben and Embiid on the floor and now they can throw lineups out there without Ben and Embiid that won't get completely torched. Losing Muscala was addition by subtraction tbh.

Tobias is in the 95th percentile on spot ups this year. He's a deadly shooter, he just hasn't been in the right situation to be utilized more off ball and now he is and he's actually still been a really good ball handler too.

I don't understand why people underrate him so much. IMO, he gets typecasted as like a good not great player and I think that's flat out wrong. He's scoring 20 ppg on an above 60% true shooting percentage as the first option on a team that was in the thick of the West playoff race... He's not a max guy but to me he could easily be the 2nd offensive option on a good team.

I mean look at how people drool over Bradley Beal and can anyone give me a reason why Beal is a better player than Tobias Harris? Seriously look at the numbers and give me a reason because I can't see any...

[F N 11]

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[Jeff Van Gully]

We need this Lakers trade to go down. Otherwise, NO will wait to the summer, Kyrie and AD will get together and potentially orchestrate a trade to Boston. Then, Kawhi will go to LAC. KD won’t go to NY alone (esp after watching LeBron burn doing the same) and will probably go to LAC. They’ll then try to work out a sign and trade for McCollum and/or Beal.

I still don’t believe that they’ll give him the full Supermax. I could be completely wrong about that though.

NY will end up with Kemba and nothing else. They’ll probably trade for someone else like: McCollum or Beal... long story, short, it wouldn’t be good or sign Cousins to a 1 year huge deal.

If LAL get AD, LAC get Kawhi and Kemba, NY gets KD and Kyrie, Boston loses.

The big question to me is: Is Kawhi dead set on LA?

kemba is not turning down a supermax from charlotte. even if the knicks wanted to, how could he be on the table?

I still don’t believe that they’re going to sign him to the full supermax. I could be completely wrong about that though.

so could i. but i think jordan knows charlotte is in a situation where they have to lock kemba in to even start their conversations of building a contender. top talent isn't going to just walk into charlotte. they need to keep this guy they drafted. they almost have no choice but to offer it, IMO. and i can't see kemba walking away from it. he's not one of these choose your own adventure stars. he's a guy who could fall backward into $200m+ out of circumstance.

just my thoughts. could be way off.

[newyorker4ever]

The Sixers should flip Butler to the Lakers before the deadline for a couple young players and draft considerations since the Lakers are a bit desperate right now not to mention Butler will blow up and burn that team to the ground in a heartbeat for any perceived slight.

Why the heck would they do that? They have a top 3 starting 5 in the NBA on paper right now. Now they will need time to get T.Harris involved and everyone to learn how to play with each other but by playoff time they have a chance of being really really good. I hate the 76ers but i'm down with that starting 5 fo sho.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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What I got from this was, these Knick fans who go to the draft, NEED TO STOP BOOING THE PLAYERS WE DRAFT! Shumpert said the same thing a couple years ago after he got traded. After hearing the boos on draft day, he wasn't playing for the Knicks anymore. He was playing for himself and all those cheers he heard from the garden crowd didn't mean anything to him.

If we don't end up with the first pick and get Zion, these "Knick fans" at the draft will boo whoever the Knicks pick. These kids have been dreaming their whole life of getting drafted into the NBA, and their first impression is getting booed by the fans of the team they will play for. Insead,we should be cheering LOUDLY. So loud that that player, all the other rookies, all the team representatives, all the fans at the Barclays, and all the fans watching at home, hear our support for our future star. Kind of like when we drafted Tim Hardaway Jr.

Hey this is NY, not Kansas. You got to be mentally tough to play here. Softies are not wanted.

basing your career on draft attendee idiots is really foolish.

[MGW33]

Carl is going to screw this up.

[NYKAL]

What I got from this was, these Knick fans who go to the draft, NEED TO STOP BOOING THE PLAYERS WE DRAFT! Shumpert said the same thing a couple years ago after he got traded. After hearing the boos on draft day, he wasn't playing for the Knicks anymore. He was playing for himself and all those cheers he heard from the garden crowd didn't mean anything to him.

If we don't end up with the first pick and get Zion, these "Knick fans" at the draft will boo whoever the Knicks pick. These kids have been dreaming their whole life of getting drafted into the NBA, and their first impression is getting booed by the fans of the team they will play for. Insead,we should be cheering LOUDLY. So loud that that player, all the other rookies, all the team representatives, all the fans at the Barclays, and all the fans watching at home, hear our support for our future star. Kind of like when we drafted Tim Hardaway Jr.

Hey this is NY, not Kansas. You got to be mentally tough to play here. Softies are not wanted.

basing your career on draft attendee idiots is really foolish.

hellz no. Booing the picks has been a tradition for every pick post Ewing. GTFO with these soft, bitchmade draftees who can't handle THAT.

Only FOOLS and Talking Media Heads think the MSG crowd on draft day is indicative of ALL Knicks fans. They don't even represent the majority of us.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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wait. THAT carl?

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[god shammgod]

Why? They have almost a perfect starting 5. Nothing the Lakers give them now is better for them now or in the future if we're being honest... Maybe Lonzo? That's about it.

also, you need a guard or wing who can create his own shot for himself with in the final moments of playoff games. in that respect, butler is their most important piece.

i don't think their starting 5 is perfect however. there's only 1 ball and lots of guys that want it and not enough 3 point shooting. butler and tobias can shoot but they just don't want to hang on the perimeter. what makes golden state such a good super team is that they don't need the ball as much. draymond doesn't. klay doesn't. even curry will just hoist them up a bunch without dribbling. the only one who really does is durant. cousins too now i guess.

I think Tobias will adjust fine and if people watched the Sixers, then they'd know that they haven't been able to survive without Ben and Embiid on the floor and now they can throw lineups out there without Ben and Embiid that won't get completely torched. Losing Muscala was addition by subtraction tbh.

Tobias is in the 95th percentile on spot ups this year. He's a deadly shooter, he just hasn't been in the right situation to be utilized more off ball and now he is and he's actually still been a really good ball handler too.

I don't understand why people underrate him so much. IMO, he gets typecasted as like a good not great player and I think that's flat out wrong. He's scoring 20 ppg on an above 60% true shooting percentage as the first option on a team that was in the thick of the West playoff race... He's not a max guy but to me he could easily be the 2nd offensive option on a good team.

I mean look at how people drool over Bradley Beal and can anyone give me a reason why Beal is a better player than Tobias Harris? Seriously look at the numbers and give me a reason because I can't see any...

he can shoot, at a very good percentage, but it's not what he is. i'm not putting him down. he'll have to adjust though and that's not as easy as it seems. because he's gonna be stuck there a lot when he plays with the starters. and they still don't have a bench for when the starters sit. they'll stagger these guys a bit though, sure.

[F N 11]

Nola not responding to Lakers lol. Clippers or Knicks finna swoop in.

[dakomish23]

Nola not responding to Lakers lol. Clippers or Knicks finna swoop in.

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[K_ick_God]

One thing that could happen in the summer is that Ainge at least makes it harder on the Knicks to do Kyrie and KD. He could make a big pitch for AD. But in the end, I don't think he really wants to give up Tatum for a rental. They'll try to edge closer and feel out AD, and see if they can meet with him, etc. They'll at least get involved and throw their hat in the ring.

But when it comes to flushing assets and the possibility a guy might really go, then I think that's a pretty big deterrent. Didn't stop OKC but they didn't bargain that much away.

I think Ainge just hopes that the playoffs + Kyrie perhaps meeting with AD and all of that, plus Boston having assets, could create some noise and traction for him in the summer.

We don't know how resolute AD is. Or Kyrie and KD for that matter. But we know pretty publicly that AD right now is saying no to Boston and it's hard to imagine that the Kyrie/KD buzz is not based on something.

[Knicksfan1992]

also, you need a guard or wing who can create his own shot for himself with in the final moments of playoff games. in that respect, butler is their most important piece.

i don't think their starting 5 is perfect however. there's only 1 ball and lots of guys that want it and not enough 3 point shooting. butler and tobias can shoot but they just don't want to hang on the perimeter. what makes golden state such a good super team is that they don't need the ball as much. draymond doesn't. klay doesn't. even curry will just hoist them up a bunch without dribbling. the only one who really does is durant. cousins too now i guess.

I think Tobias will adjust fine and if people watched the Sixers, then they'd know that they haven't been able to survive without Ben and Embiid on the floor and now they can throw lineups out there without Ben and Embiid that won't get completely torched. Losing Muscala was addition by subtraction tbh.

Tobias is in the 95th percentile on spot ups this year. He's a deadly shooter, he just hasn't been in the right situation to be utilized more off ball and now he is and he's actually still been a really good ball handler too.

I don't understand why people underrate him so much. IMO, he gets typecasted as like a good not great player and I think that's flat out wrong. He's scoring 20 ppg on an above 60% true shooting percentage as the first option on a team that was in the thick of the West playoff race... He's not a max guy but to me he could easily be the 2nd offensive option on a good team.

I mean look at how people drool over Bradley Beal and can anyone give me a reason why Beal is a better player than Tobias Harris? Seriously look at the numbers and give me a reason because I can't see any...

he can shoot, at a very good percentage, but it's not what he is. i'm not putting him down. he'll have to adjust though and that's not as easy as it seems. because he's gonna be stuck there a lot when he plays with the starters. and they still don't have a bench for when the starters sit. they'll stagger these guys a bit though, sure.

Yeah I mean it's going to be up to Tobias to adjust but it shouldn't be too hard of an adjustment as long as Brett has control of the team. I also think in the playoffs when things are less fluid, they're going to need him to still be the old Tobias bucket getter...

I specifically think this move was to beat Boston IMO. They're trying to get more threats to cover for Ben's lack of shooting. Boston is going to have to be stuck putting Morris on Harris at the end of games and if they have to devote one of their better defenders to stopping Tobias, then it opens up mismatches for Butler or Simmons to attack.

I think the biggest adjustment for them is going to be defensively. They desperately need 1 more defense first piece. I bet they're dying to have Wes hit the buyout market.

[Knicksfan1992]

Nola not responding to Lakers lol. Clippers or Knicks finna swoop in.

Honestly best case scenario for us is that he goes nowhere

[F N 11]

Pelicans negotiating tactics is Crazy. Lakers lost by 40 and now this lol. They might as well trade Bron lmao

[Knick4Real]

Hey this is NY, not Kansas. You got to be mentally tough to play here. Softies are not wanted.

basing your career on draft attendee idiots is really foolish.

hellz no. Booing the picks has been a tradition for every pick post Ewing. GTFO with these soft, bitchmade draftees who can't handle THAT.

Only FOOLS and Talking Media Heads think the MSG crowd on draft day is indicative of ALL Knicks fans. They don't even represent the majority of us.

So, we want the BEST talent available, but we also want them to INSTANTLY fit into our way of thinking and just take it or else be called "bitchmade???" Hmmm. Just look back over the years at all the FA's who could have won us a title by now, but said they'd NEVER come to NY just because of this kind of attitude, and you'll see the problem with this statement.

There's a reason we give a carefully crafted and positive "presentation" when we're trying to attract FA's. Why shouldn't that also apply to draftees we're trying to build a longterm relationship with?

[Deeeez Knicks]

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[F N 11]

Nola not responding to Lakers lol. Clippers or Knicks finna swoop in.

Honestly best case scenario for us is that he goes nowhere

That gives Boston a chance tho. Which then means Kyrie could possibly stay.

[Jeff Van Gully]

basing your career on draft attendee idiots is really foolish.

hellz no. Booing the picks has been a tradition for every pick post Ewing. GTFO with these soft, bitchmade draftees who can't handle THAT.

Only FOOLS and Talking Media Heads think the MSG crowd on draft day is indicative of ALL Knicks fans. They don't even represent the majority of us.

So, we want the BEST talent available, but we also want them to INSTANTLY fit into our way of thinking and just take it or else be called "bitchmade???" Hmmm. Just look back over the years at all the FA's who could have won us a title by now, but said they'd NEVER come to NY just because of this kind of attitude, and you'll see the problem with this statement.

There's a reason we give a carefully crafted and positive "presentation" when we're trying to attract FA's. Why shouldn't that also apply to draftees we're trying to build a longterm relationship with?

because no one can control the actions of idiot fans. that's like reading the comments section and catching feelings. it's not real.

[K_ick_God]

Painful for sure but if our offer and Clips is close, Mitch might be the deciding point.

What to do.

I'd put Knox in there. Last night made me vomit in my mouth a little and you know how it is -- one day of the youngest player missing some shots and you're dead to me. All kidding aside, it's kind of hard to watch Knox get passes where he looks surprised that the ball is coming to him. Kid is asleep in an NBA game.