Summer League Gm 3: Knicks vs Lakers 10PM EST

[2010]

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

So much pissing and moaning. McBride looks fantastic. The grass is always greener elsewhere

It was pissing and moaning when Frank was properly evaluated too.

McBride looking fantastic doesn’t excuse how Grimes looks and the fact there were more high potential options still on the board.

[3toheadmelo]

If you guys upset that we took Grimes over Bones and Jalen Johnson then I won’t argue with you cause I said we should’ve taken those guys as well

[2010]

but I think it's possible to wait for at least a month of real nba play to judge. I mean Grimes has a pro type body and a skill (shooting) that while he doesn't scream superstar, he does seem to be role player level. and thats probably what the team was looking for. honestly for a guy shooting this poorly, he's actually not shooting that bad. and his general iq and level of hustle is pretty good for a guy who may be dealing with some confidence issues. his plus minus is really great so far too. I'm choosing to stay relaxed and positive about the pick

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

we are taking the "F them kids" approach and I'm fine with it. the future 1st and 2nd we got from pushing the picks back was the prize of the draft, that's playing the long game because they want to use them to trade for a star later. thibs isn't here to babysit low character guys who quit on his team like jalen johnson or guys too small to play defense like cooper

and then maybe they lucked into a nice player with mcbride? I'm not mad about it

With all the protections on that pick, it’s not a meaningful asset. And if it doesn’t convey it reverts to 2nds like 3 more years down the line. Yawner bro. We punted when we should have gone for it on 4th down.

[TerrenceClarke]

If you guys upset that we took Grimes over Bones and Jalen Johnson then I won’t argue with you cause I said we should’ve taken those guys as well

[robillionaire]

oppposing PG payton pritchard went for 21, 12, and 8 and was a + 34 against Bones who was a -19 in 25 mins don't fall for this one either folks

[robillionaire]

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

we are taking the "F them kids" approach and I'm fine with it. the future 1st and 2nd we got from pushing the picks back was the prize of the draft, that's playing the long game because they want to use them to trade for a star later. thibs isn't here to babysit low character guys who quit on his team like jalen johnson or guys too small to play defense like cooper

and then maybe they lucked into a nice player with mcbride? I'm not mad about it

With all the protections on that pick, it’s not a meaningful asset. And if it doesn’t convey it reverts to 2nds like 3 more years down the line. Yawner bro. We punted when we should have gone for it on 4th down.

after the hornets are not a top 10 team this season and it's top 16, 14, 14, protected it will be a decent asset to package with our other assets and we will have traded it long before it ever becomes 2 2nds which it probably won't

time will tell

[HEZI]

Bones looked awful the other night

Cooper looked ok but McBride is flat out better.

How are you fitting guys like IQ, Cooper or Bones and McBride all in the rotation anyway? You can’t.

The only real guy worth talking about passing up on is Jalen Johnson. Im not losing sleep over anybody else

[El Poochio]

If Grimes shots went in we would be singing a different tune sample size is just too small

[3toheadmelo]

oppposing PG payton pritchard went for 21, 12, and 8 and was a + 34 against Bones who was a -19 in 25 mins don't fall for this one either folks

Isiah Jackson with 0 points against Sims. Don’t fall for the kentucky bust folks!!

[mpharris36]

Bones looked awful the other night

Cooper looked ok but McBride is flat out better.

How are you fitting guys like IQ, Cooper or Bones and McBride all in the rotation anyway? You can’t.

The only real guy worth talking about passing up on is Jalen Johnson. Im not losing sleep over anybody else

Cam Thomas would have been another guy to look at in that range.

[HEZI]

Bones looked awful the other night

Cooper looked ok but McBride is flat out better.

How are you fitting guys like IQ, Cooper or Bones and McBride all in the rotation anyway? You can’t.

The only real guy worth talking about passing up on is Jalen Johnson. Im not losing sleep over anybody else

Cam Thomas would have been another guy to look at in that range.

He’s a gunner and we already have one in IQ. Not losing sleep over Cam Thomas sorry

[El Poochio]

I likened Grimes to Jordan Poole and Poole was arguably the worst player in the league in his first season, missing all of his shots and not showing anything else with no stand out physical trait but now he has the chance to be next Bradley Beal imo

[K_ick_God]

Wait I didn't watch the whole game, only caught glimpses, but how did Obi end up 6-17

[robillionaire]

If Grimes shots went in we would be singing a different tune sample size is just too small

Yeah I agree, I still think he might be salvageable as a role player

[robillionaire]

Wait I didn't watch the whole game, only caught glimpses, but how did Obi end up 6-17

he got locked up by guys like D. Cucock and V. Law and a bunch of people nobody has ever heard of, it was really really bad

[K_ick_God]

McBride and RJ together are two tough grinder types. That's good. Team has a shot to be really really good defensively but don't give up Mitch.

[cgmw]

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

So much pissing and moaning. McBride looks fantastic. The grass is always greener elsewhere

It was pissing and moaning when Frank was properly evaluated too.

McBride looking fantastic doesn’t excuse how Grimes looks and the fact there were more high potential options still on the board.

Look, it's obviously waaaay too early to be making judgements one way or the other-- so I'm just chiming in to give the Knicks some credit for consistently taking multiple shots in the draft recently. Mitch & RJ. Obi & IQ. Grimes & McBride. Since the Knox and Frank fiascos, we seem to be committed to increasing the likelihood of success by committing to TWO draft picks each year. Because just like all you smart-ass draft evaluators, the actual paid professionals running the Knicks are also just shooting darts in the dark.

[2010]

So much pissing and moaning. McBride looks fantastic. The grass is always greener elsewhere

It was pissing and moaning when Frank was properly evaluated too.

McBride looking fantastic doesn’t excuse how Grimes looks and the fact there were more high potential options still on the board.

Look, it's obviously waaaay too early to be making judgements one way or the other-- so I'm just chiming in to give the Knicks some credit for consistently taking multiple shots in the draft recently. Mitch & RJ. Obi & IQ. Grimes & McBride. Since the Knox and Frank fiascos, we seem to be committed to increasing the likelihood of success by committing to TWO draft picks each year. Because just like all you smart-ass draft evaluators, the actual paid professionals running the Knicks are also just shooting darts in the dark.

Yeah, I agree with mpharris when he said the draft is not an exact science. All I ask is we operate with a mindset of low risk-high reward.

[2010]

Wait I didn't watch the whole game, only caught glimpses, but how did Obi end up 6-17

Obi was just missing shots. But he isn't being criticized cuz he has been playing with infinite energy, making multiple effort plays, has been very aggressive and playing as if he (along with IQ) are alphas - as they should be. I think Obi is gonna be alright.

I always get more concerned with players who play passive and act like they don't belong. That usually doesn't bode well for when the real games begin.

[RHODEY]

You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.

Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.

Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.

Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?

If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.

That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.

So much pissing and moaning. McBride looks fantastic. The grass is always greener elsewhere

It was pissing and moaning when Frank was properly evaluated too.

McBride looking fantastic doesn’t excuse how Grimes looks and the fact there were more high potential options still on the board.

Cam Thomas?