official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[Billy Goat]

can't waste the stretch on melo. u might need that for noah at some point. and stretching both kind of eliminates the benefits.

Noah can sit on the bench, plat limited minutes if healthy and no one cares- which wouldnt be the case with Carmelo. His contract isnt nearly as bad as Melo's either.

Noah is considered to be worst contract in the NBA universally, but you're here trying to say Melo's is worse?

I'd love to see how a productive player on the fooor for less years is worse than a guy who can't do anything on the court or even stay on the court when healthy or even stay healthy to be on the court.

Melos contract is probably the worst in the NBA when you factor in the no trade. He literally can't be traded and is due 50 million over two years.

Noah at 4 years 70 mill is the same exact contract evan turner got. He's moveable.

[bigfnjoe96]

WOW. Melo is now a cancer in the locker room. Corrupting our young players minds.

I know people feel Melo needs to go, but is this the new narrative we're speaking on..

C'mon now we're better than that!!!

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[dakomish23]

Noah can sit on the bench, plat limited minutes if healthy and no one cares- which wouldnt be the case with Carmelo. His contract isnt nearly as bad as Melo's either.

Noah is considered to be worst contract in the NBA universally, but you're here trying to say Melo's is worse?

I'd love to see how a productive player on the fooor for less years is worse than a guy who can't do anything on the court or even stay on the court when healthy or even stay healthy to be on the court.

Melos contract is probably the worst in the NBA when you factor in the no trade. He literally can't be traded and is due 50 million over two years.

Noah at 4 years 70 mill is the same exact contract evan turner got. He's moveable.

Melo can be traded. He just has a choice who it is to. Melo will have suitors. You don't need to add an incentive for him to be traded.

Noah can be traded. Noah has no choice who it is to. Noah will not have suitors. You have to throw a really good asset to dump Noah at this point.

His NTC ≠ impossible to get someone to trade for him.

Better put

We put them side by side

Melo on 2 years left
Noah on 3 years left

What is every GM in the world choosing except the egomaniac running our office?

[Fat Kat]

WOW. Melo is now a cancer in the locker room. Corrupting our young players minds.

I know people feel Melo needs to go, but is this the new narrative we're speaking on..

C'mon now we're better than that!!!

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No, we're not better than that. We've had threads here about folks not being able to land a job with McDonald's, yet they have better basketball acumen than Phil Jackson.

[Billy Goat]

Noah is considered to be worst contract in the NBA universally, but you're here trying to say Melo's is worse?

I'd love to see how a productive player on the fooor for less years is worse than a guy who can't do anything on the court or even stay on the court when healthy or even stay healthy to be on the court.

Melos contract is probably the worst in the NBA when you factor in the no trade. He literally can't be traded and is due 50 million over two years.

Noah at 4 years 70 mill is the same exact contract evan turner got. He's moveable.

Melo can be traded. He just has a choice who it is to. Melo will have suitors. You don't need to add an incentive for him to be traded.

Noah can be traded. Noah has no choice who it is to. Noah will not have suitors. You have to throw a really good asset to dump Noah at this point.

His NTC ≠ impossible to get someone to trade for him.

Better put

We put them side by side

Melo on 2 years left
Noah on 3 years left

What is every GM in the world choosing except the egomaniac running our office?

Would you like to make a bet on Melo being traded? When we talk about Knicks fans being the most delusional in NY, Melo's trade value is probably the biggest indicator. He has no value because of the no trade clause.

[dakomish23]

Melos contract is probably the worst in the NBA when you factor in the no trade. He literally can't be traded and is due 50 million over two years.

Noah at 4 years 70 mill is the same exact contract evan turner got. He's moveable.

Melo can be traded. He just has a choice who it is to. Melo will have suitors. You don't need to add an incentive for him to be traded.

Noah can be traded. Noah has no choice who it is to. Noah will not have suitors. You have to throw a really good asset to dump Noah at this point.

His NTC ≠ impossible to get someone to trade for him.

Better put

We put them side by side

Melo on 2 years left
Noah on 3 years left

What is every GM in the world choosing except the egomaniac running our office?

Would you like to make a bet on Melo being traded? When we talk about Knicks fans being the most delusional in NY, Melo's trade value is probably the biggest indicator. He has no value because of the no trade clause.

Delusional?

Delusional is thinking his trade value would be high after the way PJax handled the situation. If I'm desperate to dump something, guess what? A buyer knows that and will not overpay for it - unless you're the Knicks (see Bargs trade).

Delusional is thinking what you settle for in a deal is an indicator of the actual value of the player. PJax has gotten fleeced multiple times. See Chandler and Shump deals, where he used guys with value just to dump salary, just to sign a guy that he would trade a year later in another salary dump (on one of the guys he traded for in the Chandler deal), only to sign the worst contract in the NBA.

Delusional is thinking his contract is the worst in the NBA. Which you stated and have yet to make a convincing argument for.

Answer the question. 29 GMs lined up. They have a choice - Melo on 2 years, Joakim on 3. Who are they taking?

[Billy Goat]

Melo can be traded. He just has a choice who it is to. Melo will have suitors. You don't need to add an incentive for him to be traded.

Noah can be traded. Noah has no choice who it is to. Noah will not have suitors. You have to throw a really good asset to dump Noah at this point.

His NTC ≠ impossible to get someone to trade for him.

Better put

We put them side by side

Melo on 2 years left
Noah on 3 years left

What is every GM in the world choosing except the egomaniac running our office?

Would you like to make a bet on Melo being traded? When we talk about Knicks fans being the most delusional in NY, Melo's trade value is probably the biggest indicator. He has no value because of the no trade clause.

Delusional?

Delusional is thinking his trade value would be high after the way PJax handled the situation. If I'm desperate to dump something, guess what? A buyer knows that and will not overpay for it - unless you're the Knicks (see Bargs trade).

Delusional is thinking what you settle for in a deal is an indicator of the actual value of the player. PJax has gotten fleeced multiple times. See Chandler and Shump deals, where he used guys with value just to dump salary, just to sign a guy that he would trade a year later in another salary dump (on one of the guys he traded for in the Chandler deal), only to sign the worst contract in the NBA.

Delusional is thinking his contract is the worst in the NBA. Which you stated and have yet to make a convincing argument for.

Answer the question. 29 GMs lined up. They have a choice - Melo on 2 years, Joakim on 3. Who are they taking?

Teams are taking Noah because there's no issue with him sitting on the bench and playing limited minutes. He also doesnt demand shots. Noah if healthy can still be a useful piece for a contending team- he defends, rebounds and passes....Melo gives you inefficient volume shooting and jab steps at 28 million.

[Sark]

Melo can be traded. He just has a choice who it is to. Melo will have suitors. You don't need to add an incentive for him to be traded.

Noah can be traded. Noah has no choice who it is to. Noah will not have suitors. You have to throw a really good asset to dump Noah at this point.

His NTC ≠ impossible to get someone to trade for him.

Better put

We put them side by side

Melo on 2 years left
Noah on 3 years left

What is every GM in the world choosing except the egomaniac running our office?

Would you like to make a bet on Melo being traded? When we talk about Knicks fans being the most delusional in NY, Melo's trade value is probably the biggest indicator. He has no value because of the no trade clause.

Delusional?

Delusional is thinking his trade value would be high after the way PJax handled the situation. If I'm desperate to dump something, guess what? A buyer knows that and will not overpay for it - unless you're the Knicks (see Bargs trade).

Delusional is thinking what you settle for in a deal is an indicator of the actual value of the player. PJax has gotten fleeced multiple times. See Chandler and Shump deals, where he used guys with value just to dump salary, just to sign a guy that he would trade a year later in another salary dump (on one of the guys he traded for in the Chandler deal), only to sign the worst contract in the NBA.

Delusional is thinking his contract is the worst in the NBA. Which you stated and have yet to make a convincing argument for.

Answer the question. 29 GMs lined up. They have a choice - Melo on 2 years, Joakim on 3. Who are they taking?

You can't have 29 GMs line up to bid for Melo because of his own doing. There are only 2 buyers for Melo. In economics this is known as a duopsony, which creates inefficiencies.

Noah is much easier to move because 29 GMs would be able to competitively bid for him, and there are no artificial barriers to trading him.

[newyorker4ever]

NY Trades: Melo
NY Receives: Rubio, Cole Aldrich

Melo: Minnesota? NTC!

1. Melo loves Thibs 2. Thibs is fond of Melo 3. Butler & Melo have a good relationship 4. Melo is a huge upgrade over the rest of their roster options 5. This has seen Olympic Melo up close 6. Thibs wants to win now 7. Minny wants to dump Rubio

8, Melo doesn't wanna be in Minn.

[newyorker4ever]

Melo isn't corrupting anyone.

Phil started the BS and of all the people in the basketball his teammates see this.

Melo holding the ball and not playing defense are the most overblown things we keep reading.

Phil doesn't even wanna trade Melo imo, he just wants him to completely play the way Phil wants to.

If Phil wanted him gone I think he'd have been gone by now.

You cannot be serious with this right?? Phil doesn't wanna trade Melo?? The only truth in that is that Phil wants and not even wants cause it's more wanted Melo to play the system Phil wants to run and what's wrong with that?? Once in a while Melo would play the right way and when he did he would play pretty damn good and when Melo wants to, he's actually a really good passer but it would only last for a game or two.

[newyorker4ever]

We absolutely cant buyout Melo. Even though Phil has minimized his value, Melos true value is 2nd tier star who could still be a significant piece on a championship team.

I would let Melo play out the yr and hope he waives his no trade clause for a chance to win during the year. We won't be going anywhere with him anyway so the tank will still be intact.

While I don't disagree, that doesn't mean that we can't buy him out. If no one is willing to give anything of value, then that's not going to change. It'll only get worse and worse given his age. So, think about it, what are we accomplishing by keeping him? We'll just win more games and that's counterproductive to our interests. That will hurt us. All in all, if his value is 0 around the league, then we got to just eat it and let him go. There's really not much of a choice. For our situation, the value of dropping him (higher draft pick and less media drama) is greater than the value of keeping him (32 wins, playing minutes over young guys and taking their shots).

I don't think his value is zero around the league though, i think if he waived that NTC there would be teams wanting to trade for him but if he'll only waive it for Clev or Clips or Boston then there isn't much we can do cause Clev is strapped on the cap, Boston doesn't want him, as of now anyway and the Clips don't even know what their own free agents (CP3,Blake) are gonna do yet.

[newyorker4ever]

WOW. Melo is now a cancer in the locker room. Corrupting our young players minds.

I know people feel Melo needs to go, but is this the new narrative we're speaking on..

C'mon now we're better than that!!!

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I don't think he's a cancer in the locker room but when you have the biggest name on the team not wanting to buy into the system the team is trying to run it could rub off on the younger guys on the team.

[god shammgod]

Would you like to make a bet on Melo being traded? When we talk about Knicks fans being the most delusional in NY, Melo's trade value is probably the biggest indicator. He has no value because of the no trade clause.

Delusional?

Delusional is thinking his trade value would be high after the way PJax handled the situation. If I'm desperate to dump something, guess what? A buyer knows that and will not overpay for it - unless you're the Knicks (see Bargs trade).

Delusional is thinking what you settle for in a deal is an indicator of the actual value of the player. PJax has gotten fleeced multiple times. See Chandler and Shump deals, where he used guys with value just to dump salary, just to sign a guy that he would trade a year later in another salary dump (on one of the guys he traded for in the Chandler deal), only to sign the worst contract in the NBA.

Delusional is thinking his contract is the worst in the NBA. Which you stated and have yet to make a convincing argument for.

Answer the question. 29 GMs lined up. They have a choice - Melo on 2 years, Joakim on 3. Who are they taking?

You can't have 29 GMs line up to bid for Melo because of his own doing. There are only 2 buyers for Melo. In economics this is known as a duopsony, which creates inefficiencies.

Noah is much easier to move because 29 GMs would be able to competitively bid for him, and there are no artificial barriers to trading him.

except for the fact that 29 gms have no interest in him at that salary

[F N 11]

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Yeah yeah yeah.... There goes the media spewing BS again. According to K P 6 there was a blockbuster trade sending Melo to the Heat but Phil Jackson is incompetent. STFU

[F N 11]

I dont want Melo begging Ntilikina to feed him in the post while we're trying to run the offense. IM sorry. However buying Melo out will set this franchise back. Phil should of absolutely treated him better. However if Melo accepts a buyout and goes to a team we could of traded him to, he would be one of the most hated men in NYC.

[Fury]

I dont want Melo begging Ntilikina to feed him in the post while we're trying to run the offense. IM sorry.

Yeah that would suck.

At the same time, Frank is the type of PG Melo excels with. A dude who can shoot, defend, and play unselfishly. But Frank can be much more

[god shammgod]

I dont want Melo begging Ntilikina to feed him in the post while we're trying to run the offense. IM sorry. However buying Melo out will set this franchise back. Phil should of absolutely treated him better. However if Melo accepts a buyout and goes to a team we could of traded him to, he would be one of the most hated men in NYC.

don't worry, it will be rose.

[Fury]

I dont want Melo begging Ntilikina to feed him in the post while we're trying to run the offense. IM sorry. However buying Melo out will set this franchise back. Phil should of absolutely treated him better. However if Melo accepts a buyout and goes to a team we could of traded him to, he would be one of the most hated men in NYC.

don't worry, it will be rose.

It'll be Rose begging Melo with Frank on the bench

[F N 11]

I dont want Melo begging Ntilikina to feed him in the post while we're trying to run the offense. IM sorry. However buying Melo out will set this franchise back. Phil should of absolutely treated him better. However if Melo accepts a buyout and goes to a team we could of traded him to, he would be one of the most hated men in NYC.

don't worry, it will be rose.

In your dreams lol. No way. He wants to be back because he go hurt again.

[god shammgod]

I dont want Melo begging Ntilikina to feed him in the post while we're trying to run the offense. IM sorry. However buying Melo out will set this franchise back. Phil should of absolutely treated him better. However if Melo accepts a buyout and goes to a team we could of traded him to, he would be one of the most hated men in NYC.

don't worry, it will be rose.

In your dreams lol. No way. He wants to be back because he go hurt again.

why on earth would i dream about that ?