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F N 11 wrote:Malik Willis showing some arm strength gah damn. Also showing the ability to get away from pass rush. Would like to see him get some completions in the pocket. Jim Nagy said his throws was cutting through the wind in practice on a bad weather day.
blueNorange wrote:F N 11 wrote:Malik Willis showing some arm strength gah damn. Also showing the ability to get away from pass rush. Would like to see him get some completions in the pocket. Jim Nagy said his throws was cutting through the wind in practice on a bad weather day.
no qb in this draft is better than jones.
if you want a qb, it's next year.
mpharris36 wrote:blueNorange wrote:F N 11 wrote:Malik Willis showing some arm strength gah damn. Also showing the ability to get away from pass rush. Would like to see him get some completions in the pocket. Jim Nagy said his throws was cutting through the wind in practice on a bad weather day.
no qb in this draft is better than jones.
if you want a qb, it's next year.
It's good because teams that want to jump the Panthers at 6 who want a QB. Great trade up to 5 situation. Already hear the Steelers want to move up for a QB.
blueNorange wrote:mpharris36 wrote:blueNorange wrote:
no qb in this draft is better than jones.
if you want a qb, it's next year.
It's good because teams that want to jump the Panthers at 6 who want a QB. Great trade up to 5 situation. Already hear the Steelers want to move up for a QB.
also read giant are interested in trading one of the first rounders if a team wants a qb.
but that article also said schoen with the bills never traded down, only up ... but schoen wasn't running the show.
mpharris36 wrote:blueNorange wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
It's good because teams that want to jump the Panthers at 6 who want a QB. Great trade up to 5 situation. Already hear the Steelers want to move up for a QB.
also read giant are interested in trading one of the first rounders if a team wants a qb.
but that article also said schoen with the bills never traded down, only up ... but schoen wasn't running the show.
This is a deep draft and it would be nice to have more ammo next year to possibly trade up next year.
People already said rumors are Giants willing to trade down which is smart. Rumors are at senior ball
K-DOT wrote:mpharris36 wrote:blueNorange wrote:also read giant are interested in trading one of the first rounders if a team wants a qb.
but that article also said schoen with the bills never traded down, only up ... but schoen wasn't running the show.
This is a deep draft and it would be nice to have more ammo next year to possibly trade up next year.
People already said rumors are Giants willing to trade down which is smart. Rumors are at senior ball
Everybody wants to trade down, nobody wants to trade up lol.
mpharris36 wrote:K-DOT wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
This is a deep draft and it would be nice to have more ammo next year to possibly trade up next year.
People already said rumors are Giants willing to trade down which is smart. Rumors are at senior ball
Everybody wants to trade down, nobody wants to trade up lol.
That why Willis showing out in senior ball is a good thing. 5 would be the spot to move up if Carolina is truly after QB.
K-DOT wrote:
Actually, the ideal would be convincing the Jets that Thibodeaux can be their Nick Bosa, then trading 1 for 4 and 10, but that isn't looking super likely right now.
TerrenceClarke wrote:Jermaine Johnson and one of the top 2 OL is what the giants need. Forget about trading down. Giants need high end talent fist and for most. Worry about adding depth in the later rounds.
Yea, MPH put me on Lloyd and he's very intriguingblueNorange wrote:the more and more i read, the more i like that linebacker devin lloyd
mpharris36 wrote::TerrenceClarke wrote:Jermaine Johnson and one of the top 2 OL is what the giants need. Forget about trading down. Giants need high end talent fist and for most. Worry about adding depth in the later rounds.
I think you can still get a good Olineman and pass rush even if you trade down with one of the picks. We don't even know if JJ is top 10 guy yet. I really like him and he is shooting up the boards. So we might have to use 7 on him with the way he has shown out at SB.
But if you want ammo to eventually be able to trade up for the QB you want in the future it makes sense to build up that war chest.
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote::TerrenceClarke wrote:Jermaine Johnson and one of the top 2 OL is what the giants need. Forget about trading down. Giants need high end talent fist and for most. Worry about adding depth in the later rounds.
I think you can still get a good Olineman and pass rush even if you trade down with one of the picks. We don't even know if JJ is top 10 guy yet. I really like him and he is shooting up the boards. So we might have to use 7 on him with the way he has shown out at SB.
But if you want ammo to eventually be able to trade up for the QB you want in the future it makes sense to build up that war chest.
Giants need great not good. There is no pash rusher in this draft that is as complete as Johnson. Dude flew under the radar. People are already saying they seem him being better than the first 2 guys projected to go. I wouldn’t be surprised if he leap frogs one of them once he comes in for other workouts.
The greatness of pass rushers and OL are all within reach at 5&7. I’m not reading out that spot. I’m not trading out of there based on a hope. Giants traded on a hope last year and ended up passing on a generational player in Parsons. No team in position for Young or CJ will trade out those spots next year and no QB next year after those 2 is worth passing on a rusher like JJ or an OL like Neal or Ekwonu.
blueNorange wrote:if you trade down you can most definitely get a great, not good offensive lineman.
lindebaum is supposed to be generational but he's not going top 10 because he's a center.
draft a DE #5
trade down and draft linderbaum,
draft zion johnson in 2nd round.
F N 11 wrote:blueNorange wrote:if you trade down you can most definitely get a great, not good offensive lineman.
lindebaum is supposed to be generational but he's not going top 10 because he's a center.
draft a DE #5
trade down and draft linderbaum,
draft zion johnson in 2nd round.
Need to draft a top OL at the top that you really like if he’s there to pair with Thomas. That’s a start. The mock drafts are unpredictable. By the draft Giants could be in even better position. I trust the new staff to have solid eyes.