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El Poochio wrote:If Grimes shots went in we would be singing a different tune sample size is just too small
RIP mags 2010 wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Wait I didn't watch the whole game, only caught glimpses, but how did Obi end up 6-17
Obi was just missing shots. But he isn't being criticized cuz he has been playing with infinite energy, making multiple effort plays, has been very aggressive and playing as if he (along with IQ) are alphas - as they should be. I think Obi is gonna be alright.
I always get more concerned with players who play passive and act like they don't belong. That usually doesn't bode well for when the real games begin.
2010 wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:2010 wrote:
You patient guys are tryna be the voice of reason. And I’m not mad at that approach. I just pity your confidence in the Knicks decision makers.
Look at it this way. Our approach to the draft were as if we are one-piece away and just need guys who top out as role players.
Meanwhile the Hawks (who gave us the bidness in the playoffs and almost made it to the finals) were out there swinging for the fences. Now have added Jalen Johnson and Sharife Cooper to add to their strong young core IN ADDITION TO their already hella deep veteran rotation.
Long story short, which front office did a better job positioning themselves for the long game. Or for securing further high margin assets for when the next disgruntled star asks out?
If your answer is not the Knicks front office, then you should be as annoyed as me right now. We took a low risk-low reward approach while a better team for now and the future, was out there taking the low risk-high reward approach.
That’s infuriating. All I can do is pity the optimism of some of you.
So much pissing and moaning. McBride looks fantastic. The grass is always greener elsewhere
It was pissing and moaning when Frank was properly evaluated too.
McBride looking fantastic doesn’t excuse how Grimes looks and the fact there were more high potential options still on the board.
El Poochio wrote:I likened Grimes to Jordan Poole and Poole was arguably the worst player in the league in his first season, missing all of his shots and not showing anything else with no stand out physical trait but now he has the chance to be next Bradley Beal imo
Gravy wrote:Some of you guys want to tank every year and obsess over the draft but never expect any busts. You really think we was gonna draft 4 superstars?
Accept your busts its part of drafting!
RIP mags
2010 wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Wait I didn't watch the whole game, only caught glimpses, but how did Obi end up 6-17
Obi was just missing shots. But he isn't being criticized cuz he has been playing with infinite energy, making multiple effort plays, has been very aggressive and playing as if he (along with IQ) are alphas - as they should be. I think Obi is gonna be alright.
I always get more concerned with players who play passive and act like they don't belong. That usually doesn't bode well for when the real games begin.
Are you saying Sims is trash or Grimes?HEZI wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:HEZI wrote:
A college senior who showed no improvement in college and looks like buns in SL is our developmental piece. Very nice
Yes, can’t believe we wasted the 58th pick on this scrub. Could have brought back Elfrid instead smh.
You can say whatever makes you feel better but it doesn’t change the fact that the dude is trash
El Poochio wrote:If Grimes shots went in we would be singing a different tune sample size is just too small
prophet_of_rage wrote:Are you saying Sims is trash or Grimes?HEZI wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:
Yes, can’t believe we wasted the 58th pick on this scrub. Could have brought back Elfrid instead smh.
You can say whatever makes you feel better but it doesn’t change the fact that the dude is trash
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RHODEY wrote:2010 wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Wait I didn't watch the whole game, only caught glimpses, but how did Obi end up 6-17
Obi was just missing shots. But he isn't being criticized cuz he has been playing with infinite energy, making multiple effort plays, has been very aggressive and playing as if he (along with IQ) are alphas - as they should be. I think Obi is gonna be alright.
I always get more concerned with players who play passive and act like they don't belong. That usually doesn't bode well for when the real games begin.
Didn't really watch the parts of the game were Grimes was playing, but apparently he was 2-8 from three and had 9 rebounds. Guys on KFTV were saying that he is doing things that don't show up in the stat sheet but he was active and defending . So maybe I was wrong about him being passive....
2-8 isn't good but at least he had the confidence to keep shooting. Those shots may very well start to fall as he gets more confident...
He's definitely not the sexy (High ceiling) pick but could end up being effective in his role. Seems like the FO is risk averse even if its low risk high potential..."Fit"s seems to have a high priority.
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Gravy wrote:Some of you guys want to tank every year and obsess over the draft but never expect any busts. You really think we was gonna draft 4 superstars?
Accept your busts its part of drafting!
What does tanking have to do with talking about late FRPs?
guardplay320 wrote:RHODEY wrote:2010 wrote:
Obi was just missing shots. But he isn't being criticized cuz he has been playing with infinite energy, making multiple effort plays, has been very aggressive and playing as if he (along with IQ) are alphas - as they should be. I think Obi is gonna be alright.
I always get more concerned with players who play passive and act like they don't belong. That usually doesn't bode well for when the real games begin.
Didn't really watch the parts of the game were Grimes was playing, but apparently he was 2-8 from three and had 9 rebounds. Guys on KFTV were saying that he is doing things that don't show up in the stat sheet but he was active and defending . So maybe I was wrong about him being passive....
2-8 isn't good but at least he had the confidence to keep shooting. Those shots may very well start to fall as he gets more confident...
He's definitely not the sexy (High ceiling) pick but could end up being effective in his role. Seems like the FO is risk averse even if its low risk high potential..."Fit"s seems to have a high priority.
Despite the shooting issues, he actually showed a couple of flashes for the first time. We will just have to wait and see. Some here are evaluating these guys like they were top 5 picks in the drafts and everything should click immediately. Not that way it works.
Gravy wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:Gravy wrote:Some of you guys want to tank every year and obsess over the draft but never expect any busts. You really think we was gonna draft 4 superstars?
Accept your busts its part of drafting!
What does tanking have to do with talking about late FRPs?
Most of the draft is busts or role players. The higher the pick the more it stings to get a bust.
I 'm fine with one of Mcbride or Grimes being good, dont matter which.
RIP mags
guardplay320 wrote:El Poochio wrote:If Grimes shots went in we would be singing a different tune sample size is just too small
3 summer games. Judging the future of any of these guys at this point is ridiculous. If we judged Toppin on the majority of his first full season last year, we would say he should not even be in the league. But at the end of last year and now in some of the summer games, we are starting to see the signs of a player starting to put his athletic skill together with a bit better understanding of the game at this next level. Don't think any of our rookies will get too much play yet anyway this year. The one with the best opportunity is ironically Sims due to the repeated injury issues with Mitch and Noel.
BugginOut wrote:We have Randle and Obi. We were never taking Jalen Johnson. I don’t even know why people are complaining about him
