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[DaGawd]

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well this is some bull

[3toheadmelo]

I’m just going to leave this here. Dropped a triple double in his first game in college, and almost threw one in his first SL game.

Dude is still 18

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he gonna bring dc back

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[3toheadmelo]

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well this is some bull

bright side is that in today's era tearing your achilees isnt a career ending injury anymore. kd and klay have been pretty good for the most part since they tore it. hopefully holmes comes back strong

[TerrenceClarke]

I’m just going to leave this here. Dropped a triple double in his first game in college, and almost threw one in his first SL game.

Dude is still 18

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he gonna bring dc back

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Yeah DC got a young Mob. They doing the way I wish the Knicks would have did when Leon first came with a home grown squad.

DC GM literally was taught by Presti in OKC. This only his second year on the Wizards and they turning it around already.

Bub looks to be special. His father coached Melo in Baltimore and his Cousin is Rudy Gay. He literally is a hooper hooper with very High IQ.

Dude said if he wasn’t playing basketball he could be a chess grand master.

Def looking toward to his development.

[bishnykfan]

Anyone who has not voted on the rule change proposals has until 6PM tomorrow to do so. All votes need to be PM'd to me before 6. I will post results tomorrow night and then Monday will post FA destination tiers.

[SOUL]

Tyler Smith: 12/6
Salaun: 8 points/7 rebs in 14 minutes
Castle: 22/5/4
Terrance Shannon: 25/3
Black: 20/3/3/4

I like how all of my young guys have looked pretty much!

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Malik Beasley available

[3toheadmelo]

Tyler Smith: 12/6
Salaun: 8 points/7 rebs in 14 minutes
Castle: 22/5/4
Terrance Shannon: 25/3
Black: 20/3/3/4

I like how all of my young guys have looked pretty much!

i was dead wrong about stephon castle. i watched like two scouting vids of him and i called him stephon castilkina after that he got real game

[3toheadmelo]

his scoring will come but im really impressed with how he's looked as playmaker his playmaking ability looks very promising

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eventually he gonna have games where he's scoring 20+

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[KnicksGadfly]

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He’s gonna be a good one

[bishnykfan]

Last chance to get your vote in on the rule change proposals. Votes need to be PM'd to me. I am not going through the discussion thread looking for responses. Remember, not voting is equal to a no vote. If you want either/both proposals to pass, you must submit a yes vote to me via PM before 6PM.

ANNOUNCEMENT

Ok, discussion on these rule change proposals has come to an end. It is now time to vote. After reading a few comments, I will say that when you vote, you will be voting for the proposal as it is written. There are no amendments to the rule and your vote will have to be for all of the rule as is, or none of it. If you have questions about this, please ask before voting.

Vote via PM on both propositions. We need 16 yes votes to pass and adopt a new rule. An abstention counts as a no vote so if you do not want either of the votes to pass, you do not need to PM me. If you want one but not the other, a PM stating which you want is necessary.

GM's have until Sunday at 6PM to submit their vote. Please label your PM "rule change vote".

ANNOUNCEMENT

We have two rule change proposals to present to the league. Please take a couple of days to look over both proposals. Both were submitted after a bit of back and forth. To remain neutral I will not give my opinion on these until after the vote is complete. Read and discuss for the next two days. I will call for a vote no later than Tuesday and we will have a yes/no by Friday. As always, majority rules, need a minimum of 16 yesses to pass each prop.

Feel free to ask questions in the thread and I can relay them to the proposer via PM if they want to remain anonymous. Please PM all votes when the time comes.

Spoiler:

Prop 1


Draft and Stash Rule

Each team gets one no-cost exempt slot, available only for second round picks drafted by that team. Once a picked player is traded that player is no longer eligible for this option. Once a player is "stashed," callups may only happen during subsequent offseasons, as with other exempt list players. Called up players are assigned a salary in accordance with their draft position. A players rights may be held indefinitely.

Once a player is assigned to a "draft and stash" slot, a GM can:

1. Renounce the players rights at any time, reopening the slot for future drafts and sending the player to the free agent pool, as applicable
2. Trade the player to a team whose "stash" slot is open or trade for another player on a "stash" slot.
3. Call that player up to their roster in subsequent offseasons
4. "Draft and Stash players must be declared prior to the free agency period following that draft."

Spoiler:

Prop 2



Modifying the over the cap rule of 10%
Tier 1: 20% over the cap Top 5% of the league.
Tier 2: 15% over the cap Top 30% of the league.
Tier 3: 10% over the cap remainder of players.

Each team would be allowed to apply this to TWO players on their roster they held bird rights on-
for each off-season.

[Context]

Last chance to get your vote in on the rule change proposals. Votes need to be PM'd to me. I am not going through the discussion thread looking for responses. Remember, not voting is equal to a no vote. If you want either/both proposals to pass, you must submit a yes vote to me via PM before 6PM.

ANNOUNCEMENT

Ok, discussion on these rule change proposals has come to an end. It is now time to vote. After reading a few comments, I will say that when you vote, you will be voting for the proposal as it is written. There are no amendments to the rule and your vote will have to be for all of the rule as is, or none of it. If you have questions about this, please ask before voting.

Vote via PM on both propositions. We need 16 yes votes to pass and adopt a new rule. An abstention counts as a no vote so if you do not want either of the votes to pass, you do not need to PM me. If you want one but not the other, a PM stating which you want is necessary.

GM's have until Sunday at 6PM to submit their vote. Please label your PM "rule change vote".

ANNOUNCEMENT

We have two rule change proposals to present to the league. Please take a couple of days to look over both proposals. Both were submitted after a bit of back and forth. To remain neutral I will not give my opinion on these until after the vote is complete. Read and discuss for the next two days. I will call for a vote no later than Tuesday and we will have a yes/no by Friday. As always, majority rules, need a minimum of 16 yesses to pass each prop.
please check your email Bish...
Feel free to ask questions in the thread and I can relay them to the proposer via PM if they want to remain anonymous. Please PM all votes when the time comes.

Spoiler:

Prop 1


Draft and Stash Rule

Each team gets one no-cost exempt slot, available only for second round picks drafted by that team. Once a picked player is traded that player is no longer eligible for this option. Once a player is "stashed," callups may only happen during subsequent offseasons, as with other exempt list players. Called up players are assigned a salary in accordance with their draft position. A players rights may be held indefinitely.

Once a player is assigned to a "draft and stash" slot, a GM can:

1. Renounce the players rights at any time, reopening the slot for future drafts and sending the player to the free agent pool, as applicable
2. Trade the player to a team whose "stash" slot is open or trade for another player on a "stash" slot.
3. Call that player up to their roster in subsequent offseasons
4. "Draft and Stash players must be declared prior to the free agency period following that draft."

Spoiler:

Prop 2



Modifying the over the cap rule of 10%
Tier 1: 20% over the cap Top 5% of the league.
Tier 2: 15% over the cap Top 30% of the league.
Tier 3: 10% over the cap remainder of players.

Each team would be allowed to apply this to TWO players on their roster they held bird rights on-
for each off-season.

[bishnykfan]

ANNOUNCEMENT


Prop 1


Draft and Stash Rule

Each team gets one no-cost exempt slot, available only for second round picks drafted by that team. Once a picked player is traded that player is no longer eligible for this option. Once a player is "stashed," callups may only happen during subsequent offseasons, as with other exempt list players. Called up players are assigned a salary in accordance with their draft position. A players rights may be held indefinitely.

Once a player is assigned to a "draft and stash" slot, a GM can:

1. Renounce the players rights at any time, reopening the slot for future drafts and sending the player to the free agent pool, as applicable
2. Trade the player to a team whose "stash" slot is open or trade for another player on a "stash" slot.
3. Call that player up to their roster in subsequent offseasons
4. "Draft and Stash players must be declared prior to the free agency period following that draft."

Spoiler:

FAILED

YES- (14) Atl, Chi, Den, Det, GS, Hou, Ind, LAC, LAL, Mem, NO, OKC, Orl, Sac

Prop 2



Modifying the over the cap rule of 10%
Tier 1: 20% over the cap Top 5% of the league.
Tier 2: 15% over the cap Top 30% of the league.
Tier 3: 10% over the cap remainder of players.

Each team would be allowed to apply this to TWO players on their roster they held bird rights on-
for each off-season.

Spoiler:

FAILED

YES- (2) Det, NO

[KnicksGadfly]

Uhh can’t help but feel that prop 1 probably failed cause some people didn’t pm the commish

[NewEra]

Yea prop #1 definitely had more than 16 “yes” votes which leads me to doubt that everyone saw Bish’s post that it had to be casted by pm only. Sucks it didn’t pass. I believe most of us wanted it.

[Context]

Yea prop #1 definitely had more than 16 “yes” votes which leads me to doubt that everyone saw Bish’s post that it had to be casted by pm only. Sucks it didn’t pass. I believe most of us wanted it.

I counted 17 "straight" yes votes...

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Yea prop #1 definitely had more than 16 “yes” votes which leads me to doubt that everyone saw Bish’s post that it had to be casted by pm only. Sucks it didn’t pass. I believe most of us wanted it.

Bish clarified that it wouldn’t qualify with the amended version GMs wanted. We were voting on Proposal 1 as it was written (without any amendments or revisions).

As constituted there was a clear loophole that could be exploited. As such, GMs who voted YES with the suggested amendment, likely changed their mind once realizing an amendment wasn’t possible this rule submission period.

From the outset I was pretty certain you can’t propose a rule and an amendment during the same period. The burden rests with the rule author to propose it in it’s complete form to be voted on.

[NewEra]

Yea prop #1 definitely had more than 16 “yes” votes which leads me to doubt that everyone saw Bish’s post that it had to be casted by pm only. Sucks it didn’t pass. I believe most of us wanted it.

Bish clarified that it wouldn’t qualify with the amended version GMs wanted. We were voting on Proposal 1 as it was written (without any amendments or revisions).

As constituted there was a clear loophole that could be exploited. As such, GMs who voted YES with the suggested amendment, likely changed their mind once realizing an amendment wasn’t possible this rule submission period.

From the outset I was pretty certain you can’t propose a rule and an amendment during the same period. The burden rests with the rule author to propose it in its complete form to be voted on.

Oh ok maybe GMs did vote via PM but changed their stance based on what you’re saying. It’s possible. No way for us to know I guess.

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[mpharris36]

Yea prop #1 definitely had more than 16 “yes” votes which leads me to doubt that everyone saw Bish’s post that it had to be casted by pm only. Sucks it didn’t pass. I believe most of us wanted it.

Bish clarified that it wouldn’t qualify with the amended version GMs wanted. We were voting on Proposal 1 as it was written (without any amendments or revisions).

As constituted there was a clear loophole that could be exploited. As such, GMs who voted YES with the suggested amendment, likely changed their mind once realizing an amendment wasn’t possible this rule submission period.

From the outset I was pretty certain you can’t propose a rule and an amendment during the same period. The burden rests with the rule author to propose it in it’s complete form to be voted on.

I would have voted yes if there was a time frame limit put on keeping one singular player on the draft and stash list since it didn't just count for overseas players not currently in the NBA and was included on domestic players. It would have made picks #31 and all the early 2nd round picks way more valuable than late 1st round picks because you could have just had a player contract not count until the player was really good (or when the team felt the SIM would catch up to real life production).

I get trying to make 2nd round picks slightly more valuable (but not at the expense at make them more valuable then late 1sts). The 29th pick contract clock starts right away so you basically better hope that player find playing time IRL early but the 32nd pick in our draft you have all the flexibility to stash him for 3 to 4 years if you want for him to be an impact player to start his rookie contract. That was my main concern.

I think a 1 year draft and stash limit that gives the team a full year to evaluate a 2nd round pick and decide if they want to activate his contract or release him is more than fair and then the team can just designate a new 2nd round pick into that slot makes more sense to me. I just didn't like the rule being "infinite" too much loophole for my liking personally.