ImageImageImageImageImage

[Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver!

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

AllanHoustonFan
RealGM
Posts: 28,947
And1: 6,966
Joined: Jun 27, 2010
Location: NBA Lottery Dais
     

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#121 » by AllanHoustonFan » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:23 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:It's ironic that we hate on Lebron but in this instance hope Melo follows his lead by defying his handlers and hanger-ons' opinion on what he should do concerning his career. Remember, no one but Lebron wanted or expected him to really go to Miami. He gave up a lot in money and reputation to do what his heart of hearts wanted. I hope Melo has a little Lebron in him. Flame away.

No one cares that Lebron went to Miami. People are pissed that he lead everyone on thinking they had a shot at him when all he really wanted was Miami and Miami only.
#MKGA
TheBluest
Banned User
Posts: 25,808
And1: 8
Joined: Aug 31, 2006
Location: Lottery Bound...Banned From UK 2-11-09 @ 12:30 am by Martin LOL!

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#122 » by TheBluest » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:23 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
Future Soldier wrote:CP3 will have one good knee by 2012

Melo will still be a great scorer

Lopez will still be a pathetic rebounder that can't protect the paint

nobody is scared of them. Looks good on paper, but in action, they will fall short.




Lopez is up for an extension after next season. They can't keep Lopez and get Paul. And Lopez is pretty overrated anyway.



Yes they can if Devin Harris and Favors and Morrow and Petro are off the books...all rumored to be traded in a Melo deal
aggo
RealGM
Posts: 16,358
And1: 8,481
Joined: Mar 14, 2006

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#123 » by aggo » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:23 pm

PrecociousNeoph wrote:at the very least, when this is all over, ujiri and kroenke are going to look very unprofessional with the way they've handled this. how many times now have we read about denver getting greedy and trying to make a last minute change to the deal, and then the other teams get pissed? i can imagine other GMs want nothing to do with them in the future.


well i mean, who knows how engaged kroenke is in the talks

ujiri might go to kroenke and say: heres the deal, this is how much $$s we're saving by dumping these guys off, everyone is in general agreement, we can make this go soon

then kroenke sees the deal and goes wtf?? we're dumping all this crap off and everyone is OK with it? How about getting rid of Harrington too? yea, try doing that masai...
User avatar
GONYK
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 67,009
And1: 45,778
Joined: Jun 27, 2003
Location: Brunson Gang
   

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#124 » by GONYK » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:23 pm

KnicksGod wrote:There is too much smoke here for there not to be fire -- Melo clearly will accept the extension in NJ.

This one is boring and idiotic too, and it's over.

Melo is trading away his soul for money so he'll pay a price for that.

Wanna bet?
Knicker23
General Manager
Posts: 9,524
And1: 139
Joined: Apr 24, 2010

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#125 » by Knicker23 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:24 pm

I can't see Melo being more open to maybe being able to play with Chris Paul in a few years in NJ, over playing with Amare in NY right now - he wouldn't. . If the dream of landing Cp3 in a few years is what they have going for them he'd be stupid not to wait it out till the deadline to come to the Knicks, or FA..

I think as the report that Denver was threatening to deal with the Knicks showed, and that we've known all along, they aren't opposed to some of the players we have as much as they and the media make it out to think.....if they were forced to, they would.
User avatar
east
Veteran
Posts: 2,964
And1: 6
Joined: Aug 06, 2004
Location: Bklyn Heights, waiting for the Knicks to get good...

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#126 » by east » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:25 pm

cgmw wrote:
towelie wrote:It's disgusting how unethical these sports agents are. Instead of advancing Melo's primary interest (ie. wanting to go to NY), they're commingling the interests of their other clients (getting Rip or CP3 out of their respective franchises) and trying to convince Melo to settle on NJ. They probably have other financial self-interested motives in ensuring Melo gets his extension as well.

I mean it's pretty clear that in this whole situation, Leon Rose is not "representing" Melo as a fiduciary agent would. I mean no surprise, these agents representing multiple clients have serious conflicts of interest.

Umm yeah. Bar exam much?


The agents may be primarily interested in getting an extension done now so they can get their cut but you can't definitively prove that they aren't representing Melo as a fiduciary would.

I'm sure maximizing the dollars in any deal is also a legit priority of Melo's and with uncertainty surrounding the CBA, his agents are clearly looking out for his (and their own) bottom line.
User avatar
kingOfqueens
Rookie
Posts: 1,019
And1: 28
Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#127 » by kingOfqueens » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:25 pm

GONYK wrote:How is NJ promising CP3 not tampering?


Cuz they aren't quoted as giving any hints that they are. Just because a media reporter reports it doesn't mean its necessarily true. The league would need concrete evidence for a tampering charge.
aggo
RealGM
Posts: 16,358
And1: 8,481
Joined: Mar 14, 2006

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#128 » by aggo » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:26 pm

TheBluest wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
Future Soldier wrote:CP3 will have one good knee by 2012

Melo will still be a great scorer

Lopez will still be a pathetic rebounder that can't protect the paint

nobody is scared of them. Looks good on paper, but in action, they will fall short.




Lopez is up for an extension after next season. They can't keep Lopez and get Paul. And Lopez is pretty overrated anyway.



Yes they can if Devin Harris and Favors and Morrow and Petro are off the books...all rumored to be traded in a Melo deal

you realize that rip's contract lasts until 12-13' right? @ 12.5mil

melo 19.5 + rip 12.5 + lopez 9-12 + farmar 4.2 + outlaw 7 = 52mil best case scenario
JohnStarksTheDunk
General Manager
Posts: 8,600
And1: 2,014
Joined: Aug 16, 2005
Location: Los Angeles
       

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#129 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:27 pm

PrecociousNeoph wrote:at the very least, when this is all over, ujiri and kroenke are going to look very unprofessional with the way they've handled this. how many times now have we read about denver getting greedy and trying to make a last minute change to the deal, and then the other teams get pissed? i can imagine other GMs want nothing to do with them in the future.


Actually, I applaud them for insisting that Harrington be included now. If they really aren't talking to New York, because they want to get more return for Melo, then they should be fighting to get a better return.

If they really didn't want to talk to us out of spite, and now are spiting New Jersey, then at least they are being consistent, haha.
User avatar
K_ick_God
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 80,879
And1: 43,336
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#130 » by K_ick_God » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:27 pm

AggO wrote:if melo is about winning as much as he is about getting paid then we'll be fine imo.

felton-melo-amare-fields>> "cp3"-melo-lopez-outlaw




No offense, but you keep posting CP3 and Lopez on the same team despite being told over and over that it's mathematically impossible.
delvec19
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,334
And1: 1,973
Joined: Jun 17, 2008
Location: NJ
       

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#131 » by delvec19 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:28 pm

Al_Iannazzone Al Iannazzone
Troy Murphy not at practice again and not going on the trip. Something tells me he's not sick, tho. Just waiting on a trade.
aggo
RealGM
Posts: 16,358
And1: 8,481
Joined: Mar 14, 2006

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#132 » by aggo » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:28 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
AggO wrote:if melo is about winning as much as he is about getting paid then we'll be fine imo.

felton-melo-amare-fields>> "cp3"-melo-lopez-outlaw




No offense, but you keep posting CP3 and Lopez on the same team despite being told over and over that it's mathematically impossible.


please go back and read my posts. it is purely hypothetical regardless
User avatar
god shammgod
RealGM
Posts: 138,652
And1: 137,576
Joined: Feb 18, 2006

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#133 » by god shammgod » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:28 pm

AggO wrote:
you realize that rip's contract lasts until 12-13' right? @ 12.5mil

melo 19.5 + rip 12.5 + lopez 9-12 + farmar 4.2 + outlaw 7 = 52mil best case scenario


yep. and you know they're going to be forced to take al instead of billups if they want this to happen.
cgmw
RealGM
Posts: 22,545
And1: 10,445
Joined: Jul 23, 2003
Location: Winning now since 1973
Contact:
 

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#134 » by cgmw » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:29 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:WTF, why don't the Knicks try to get in on getting RIP to satisfy Melo. It's not like the team doesnt' have a crying need for a SG.

I was recently warned for cursing out my fellow posters, so instead of telling you where you can stick your "crying need" I will take a page from this fine gentleman and just politely say, you've got to be kidding right?

Image

My "crying need" is for a 22 year old SG who's won Rookie of the Month every single month of his career with a team leading +/- of +133.
User avatar
Tommy Udo 6
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 42,507
And1: 28
Joined: Jun 13, 2003
Location: San Francisco/East Bay CA

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#135 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:30 pm

Sam Smith wrote about Melo's agent trying to get Paul there. Sam's column was prior to all these other reports. I didnt post it because it sounded like typical Sam rubbish

Yet, he seems to have been right. The column is on bulls.com if anyone is interested. (Sam has maintained from Day 1 that the Bulls are not involved at all in the Melo-drama - and he was right about that too.)
The gem cannot be polished without friction, nor man perfected without trials.
- -- Chinese proverb
User avatar
Jordan45822
RealGM
Posts: 13,564
And1: 1,891
Joined: Jun 18, 2007

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#136 » by Jordan45822 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:31 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:It's ironic that we hate on Lebron but in this instance hope Melo follows his lead by defying his handlers and hanger-ons' opinion on what he should do concerning his career. Remember, no one but Lebron wanted or expected him to really go to Miami. He gave up a lot in money and reputation to do what his heart of hearts wanted. I hope Melo has a little Lebron in him. Flame away.


I have give it to Lebron ( even though I loathe the guy) he defied his agent Rose (he wanted him in NY or NJ), WWW (wanted him in Chicago), and Maverick Carter (wanted him to stay in Cleveland) to join his friends in South Beach. But Anthony does not have the luxury as he does.
User avatar
knicks9784
Starter
Posts: 2,197
And1: 152
Joined: Feb 16, 2010

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#137 » by knicks9784 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:33 pm

delvec19 wrote:Al_Iannazzone Al Iannazzone
Troy Murphy not at practice again and not going on the trip. Something tells me he's not sick, tho. Just waiting on a trade.


isnt this the same guy who pointed out that the trade would have to be done on monday or else due to logistics with physicals the nets wouldnt have enough active players to play in their game tomorrow? if it is, he's clearly making stuff up left and right, if he didnt write that i'd like to know why only murphy is sitting out and not the other 7 or so guys in the trade
Anders wrote:The sweetest revenge is living well! Darius Rucker said it, so you know its real!
nykfan70
Banned User
Posts: 4,200
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 29, 2006

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#138 » by nykfan70 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:35 pm

Tommy Udo 6 wrote:Sam Smith wrote about Melo's agent trying to get Paul there. Sam's column was prior to all these other reports. I didnt post it because it sounded like typical Sam rubbish

Yet, he seems to have been right. The column is on bulls.com if anyone is interested. (Sam has maintained from Day 1 that the Bulls are not involved at all in the Melo-drama - and he was right about that too.)



Here's the link so you don't have to suffer sifting through the Bulls Website. :lol:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_110110.html
User avatar
god shammgod
RealGM
Posts: 138,652
And1: 137,576
Joined: Feb 18, 2006

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#139 » by god shammgod » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:36 pm

by the way the league is going to own the hornets, do you think david stern allows leon rose to strong arm him and get that team's best asset for peanuts.
BLACKFEET 2010
RealGM
Posts: 10,285
And1: 3,847
Joined: Jun 26, 2009

Re: [Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver! 

Post#140 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:36 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:It's ironic that we hate on Lebron but in this instance hope Melo follows his lead by defying his handlers and hanger-ons' opinion on what he should do concerning his career. Remember, no one but Lebron wanted or expected him to really go to Miami. He gave up a lot in money and reputation to do what his heart of hearts wanted. I hope Melo has a little Lebron in him. Flame away.


I have give it to Lebron ( even though I loathe the guy) he defied his agent Rose (he wanted him in NY or NJ), WWW (wanted him in Chicago), and Maverick Carter (wanted him to stay in Cleveland) to join his friends in South Beach. But Anthony does not have the luxury as he does.

They said his baby momma wasn't thrilled with the South Beach move either.

Return to New York Knicks