around the nba part 5

[No35]

It gives me comfort to know that even though Lin's offense > Felton's, they are both the worst defensive PGs in the league.

Quit lying.

http://www.nba.com/hoop/the_devil_is__t ... 02_05.html

By multiplying these numbers by possessions-per-game and determining a value for replacement players, I have ranked the NBA's best by determining Plus Minus Above Replacement (PMAR).

According to these advanced stats, here are 20 candidates for 2012-13 NBA Defensive Player of the Year and the All-Defense teams.

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THABO SEFOLOSA, THUNDER SHOOTING GUARD, +179.24: David West, Roy Hibbert, Metta World Peace, LaMarcus Aldridge and a dozen other bigs have PMAR scores better than Sefolosha and the guards below, but I wanted to put some Gs on this list since they're legit All-Defense candidates. And the stats here show Thabo is the third best defensive wing in the game (+2.5 defensive RAPM).

TONY ALLEN, GRIZZLIES SHOOTING GUARD, +171.93: The 31-year-old Grizzly has shaped Memphis' second-rated defense into his grind-and-grit image, a style of play that becomes more pronounced with the acquisition of new small forward Tayshaun Prince.

STEPHEN CURRY, WARRIORS POINT GUARD, +168.17: Golden State head coach Mark Jackson called Curry an “elite defender” earlier this season for the way he has defended shooters over the pick-and-roll and the numbers wholeheartedly agree.

JRUE HOLIDAY, 76ERS POINT GUARD, +150.47: The 6-4, 205-pound Sixer has the body to harass smaller PGs and the 22-year-old energy to do so consistently and continually (+1.1 defensive RAPM, second only to Curry, among the major-minutes players).

JEREMY LIN, ROCKETS POINT GUARD, +137.05: With James Harden taking the bigger offensive load, Lin's D has been key in giving Houston a PG who provides high-pressure defense at all times, ranking second in steals. His court IQ and quickness are some of the most underrated aspects of Lin's overall game.

TONY PARKER, SPURS POINT GUARD, +132.39: Unlike Lin, Parker doesn't gamble, posting a +0.9 defensive RAPM while holding foes to a 13.7 PER. Parker not only provides the offensive blueprint to younger point guards on how to run pick-and-rolls, he also displays the defensive blueprint as well.

[Nono]

What's more predictable than the sun rising tomorrow ? Yeah it's Quick Kick having a seizure every time someone praises Lin. Relax dude.

[NBA Fan 1234]

so...dwight is looking really good tonight

I'd offer Chandler right now. He's basically back

badum bum chhhhhhhh

idk. he looked terrible in the all star game. plus, he's still a whiny bitch...so there's that.

[Woodsanity]

It gives me comfort to know that even though Lin's offense > Felton's, they are both the worst defensive PGs in the league.

This myth is still going around? Lin is one of the better defensive PGs in the league. This season he has been much much better than Felton defensively. Don't believe me? Look at the stats or try watching some games. I sure have had enough of watching Felton getting torched over and over again and chucking. Not to mention all the missed games. I wish Dolan would have just coughed up the money.

[Falstaffxx]

That 14/10 game Lin had against Golden State was really a very good game for him despite the shooting %. He was very creative, and was a key to that win.

[Fury]

PRIOR to this game, he shot 4-14 against LA.

Had a bunch of terrible/average games prior to that as well

where were you? You have no shame.

In the month of February before tonight he's been averaging 15 and 7, 2 TOs, 48% from 3. So bad.

SUPERSTAR NUMBERS

He's average as shyt. Get off his dick already. You guys ONLY show up when he has his once a month "Linsanity" game, yet we never hear a peep from yall when he's out there looking like Luke Ridnour 90% of the time. Disgusting behavior.

I didn't say he's a superstar but he's better than Felton.

Relax.

[Fury]

so...dwight is looking really good tonight

I'd offer Chandler right now. He's basically back

badum bum chhhhhhhh

idk. he looked terrible in the all star game. plus, he's still a whiny bitch...so there's that.

I'm done with Tyson Chandler looking in the mirror after every game.

[NBA Fan 1234]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

[Falstaffxx]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

I think Lin uses his size and strength pretty well on defense.

[Nono]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

He has lots of trouble staying in front of the quicker guards in the league. Today Westbrook was driving by him at will, which lead to lots of open threes from Sefalosha off of kick outs.

[SelbyCobra]

Lin has 2.9 TO this season vs Felton's 2.4 TO.. not much of a difference in turnovers. How is Lin still turnover prone? He has improved a lot already turnover wise since last season. Not sure if serious..

In another note, god damn Kyrie is freaking smoking teams, even though they played a crappy Hornets team.

I have no horse in this...Beat A Dead Horse Sweepstakes™, but Lin has actually only marginally improved his turnover rate from last year.

Turnover Percentage:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinge ... tio/page/2


2011-2012: 15.6%

2012-2013: 13.8%


He's still at the bottom of the league in the category.

[Woodsanity]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

Just looked it up.
Lin is 191 overall while Felton ranks 303. Pretty big difference.
Never said Lin was a great defender but he is solid while Felton is pretty bad defensively.
Note that people said Felton was a great defender and Lin couldn't guard a garbage can not too long ago.

[Falstaffxx]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

He has lots of trouble staying in front of the quicker guards in the league. Today Westbrook was driving by him at will, which lead to lots of open threes from Sefalosha off of kick outs.

I assume Westbrook was covering Lin?

[frogfood]

What's more predictable than the sun rising tomorrow ? Yeah it's Quick Kick having a seizure every time someone praises Lin. Relax dude.

Yeah, life's too short to be this vindictive and hateful.

[NBA Fan 1234]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

Just looked it up.
Lin is 191 overall while Felton ranks 303. Pretty big difference.
Never said Lin was a great defender but he is solid while Felton is pretty bad defensively.
Note that people said Felton was a great defender and Lin couldn't guard a garbage can not too long ago.

i said felton was worse. lin's synergy stats shows he's average on defense (at least, if you only look at the stats). i think what Nono and Falstaff said hits the nail on the head - lin uses his strength well (especially on the perimeter and in the post) but quicker point guards are able to get by him (lin can get over aggressive on the perimeter or, occasionally, just lackadaisical).

[No35]

]I assume Westbrook was covering Lin?

And blowing by him at will. It's kind of a moot point that quick guards will blow by one another. Guard defense is a team endeavor.

[chales_zed]

That 14/10 game Lin had against Golden State was really a very good game for him despite the shooting %. He was very creative, and was a key to that win.

Curry is the better player in my eyes but Lin abuses him in their match-ups, I was honestly surprised.

[Woodsanity]

That 14/10 game Lin had against Golden State was really a very good game for him despite the shooting %. He was very creative, and was a key to that win.

Curry is the better player in my eyes but Lin abuses him in their match-ups, I was honestly surprised.

Curry is a pretty poor defender. He gets abused by players that are quick.

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

He has lots of trouble staying in front of the quicker guards in the league. Today Westbrook was driving by him at will, which lead to lots of open threes from Sefalosha off of kick outs.

He does but to be fair no PG in the league can stop WB by himself anyway and its not like Lin didn't do the same thing to WB. Lin was abusing him all night long. Its hard to guard fast PGs.

[NBA Fan 1234]

lin's defensive synergy stats are pretty bad

*just throwing that out there*

felton's are worse, thouguh

He has lots of trouble staying in front of the quicker guards in the league. Today Westbrook was driving by him at will, which lead to lots of open threes from Sefalosha off of kick outs.

I assume Westbrook was covering Lin?

yep. westbrook was terrible. his defensive stats are actually pretty similar to lin's -- although, some (including myself) kinda expected this because he gambles too much and appears to become disinterested.

]I assume Westbrook was covering Lin?

And blowing by him at will. It's kind of a moot point that quick guards will blow by one another. Guard defense is a team endeavor.

yep! need a strong scheme to make up for everything.

[Falstaffxx]

That 14/10 game Lin had against Golden State was really a very good game for him despite the shooting %. He was very creative, and was a key to that win.

Curry is the better player in my eyes but Lin abuses him in their match-ups, I was honestly surprised.

Yeah Curry is the better player. I wonder what things would have been like for the Knicks had GS not taken him one pick before. Imagine Curry and Anthony playing together?