PG: FJU Needs To Be Shut Down

[Dave4585]

9th in the league in points per shot. its not like he is just an ok scorer, he is one of the most efficient in the league.

And yet there is a reason he's on his third team in three years. He dominates the ball which results in a horribly stagnant offense and he's a bad defender. Stop trying to use a bandage on a gunshot wound.

the guy won 6th man of the year last year and the last 2 months he's been playing better than he did last year. don't all the coaches vote for 6th man? apparently they don't think he made the raptors offense stagnant. and he is a better defender than jose so yeah we would be improving our defense if we pulled the trigger on Jose for lou.

The dude is shooting 39% from the field man, there's bigger fish to catch out there we don't need a 30 year old who has peaked and is a chucker


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[Jay10]

Call me back when we sign a true point guard.

That position doesn't exist in this offense.

[F N 11]

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i thought that was what we did this summer. that we spent the money on depth because we couldn't get a star. and if we're not deep why does he play 10-12 guys every game.

He's saying we have one dimensional guys And have less talent than most teams. Talent as in skill and versatility, that's what he's saying.

[R-DAWG]

That is false. It's not that we traded picks. It's who we traded them for. Boston traded what looks like will be the 27th pick in the draft for mini Zeke. Bad deal???

Trading a 1st and 2 2nds for a gigantic bust who the team was dying to dump is why we are where we are. Or trading two 2nd rd picks for Felton. Or two 2nd rd picks for Camby. Or a first for Francis. Or two firsts for Curry with zero protection. I can keep going.

Pay the price for someone who's worth it. Fix this cancerous issue that has permeated into every fiber of our franchise. It is long overdue for this organization to come to a long term solution at PG.

In reality we need to tear it down before building it up. It easy for Boston to trade picks when they own so many other teams picks. Turn Lopez, Afflalo and even Carmelo into picks so next time were ready to contend, in 2 or 3 years, we have extra picks to build it up.

It's a process. Until James Dumbass accepts that we will continue to be a joke.

You didn't address the original point Is it wrong to trade picks or or wrong to trade picks for garbage?

You know why Ainge got that pick?? Because CLE was dying to dump Zeller to offer Lebron a max. They were one of a few teams with cap space. How many teams will have cap space in 2016? 2017? You aren't getting picks for salary dumps the next few years.

There is no such thing as building the right way. There are just good and bad architects. Draft. Trades. FA. Use all of them to make the best team possible.

They wanted to dump Jack, not Zeller. But anyway, they collect picks and then deal them. Sure, it's a process but the process starts with liquidating win now assets for future picks. The Knicks have ignored this for 15 years.

Before the Knicks trade a 2018 1st for an average PG, no matter how big an upgrade that would be, they should move Melo and rebuild the right way.

[Jay10]

How do you think we would go with Thibs at the helm?

Carmelo will turn into amar'e before his contract expires; Kristaps will spend more time in suits that in a knicks uniform.

[R-DAWG]

GS about to get KD soon, too...

Curry
Klay
KD
Green

vs.

Lopez
KP
Melo
Afflalo (you know he's opting in)

We better build very carefully. Not give up picks that end up one of KP's running mates. No guarantee we make the playoffs in 2018 even if we get this PG upgrade.

Calderon
Vucevic
Amundson
Seraphin

Golden State be scared now

"I be Amundson with the foul, Seraphin with the miss boy" - Drake 2017

[sushibear]

How do you think we would go with Thibs at the helm?

You would see a proper utilization of the triangle

[NYKnicksTAPE]

I think everyone just needs some weed or liquor or both.

Fisher isn't going anywhere.

The team doesn't run plays.

KP is playing like sh*t.

Melo is playing like sh*t.

The roster isn't good at iso's.

Team doesn't move off ball frequently.

We have a 2nd year coach who is inconsistent & is learning on the job.

Phil constructed the roster & coach.

Phil has a team of coaches that works side by side with Fisher.

28-35 Wins.

28-35 Win Gang is back baby

[Dr. Detfink]

For the Knicks fans who thought this team would suddenly become an over .500 squad, the official record is 1-3 with Plankton Galloway as the starting PG. I would have thought this being Galloway's second year that he would understand the point guard position a little better but he hasn't. He plays well alongside Afflalo but goodness he can't give Melo or Porzingis a good look at the basket to save his life.

Whether it's Calderon or Galloway, Isaiah Thomas destroyed them both. So much for the Knicks' defensive stopper.

[BBALLER4FR]

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i thought that was what we did this summer. that we spent the money on depth because we couldn't get a star. and if we're not deep why does he play 10-12 guys every game.

He's saying we have one dimensional guys And have less talent than most teams. Talent as in skill and versatility, that's what he's saying.

He's questioning Phil Jackson! Oh boy. Now he done did it.

[JBreezeNY]

How do you think we would go with Thibs at the helm?

We'd be better defensively, offense would still be trash, offense would be iso Melo & run KP through the post.

Robin Lopez would be used the same way he was used in Portland.

Team would probably be broken down by next season with all the heavy minutes but they would be playing hard every game.

[god shammgod]

How do you think we would go with Thibs at the helm?

We'd be better defensively, offense would still be trash, offense would be iso Melo & run KP through the post.

Robin Lopez would be used the same way he was used in Portland.

Team would probably be broken down by next season with all the heavy minutes but they would be playing hard every game.

team is broken down now. melo and kp both look beat up.

[ibraheim718]

I'm afraid this only ends one way.

[F N 11]

Don't want to sound like salty latvian but every one getting on KPs back now but please name me the one play Fisher has generated for him this season...Dont count in Spurs dunk at the end of the game. Its like 99% of baskets he scores are either from random passes, rebounds or struggle iso plays. Of course he is shooting **** percentage when only shots he gets are the '''struggle'' shots. F**k this coach, seriously....

Agree 100%

[Capn'O]

Porz is playing awful lately. Hoping it's a wall.

It is. But I don't see enough FGA's either.

On D he just isn't as quick either. If he's ok otherwise, he'll get past it in coming years. I just want him to be OK Abe because if he's hurt - like legit hurt - we're talking about deck chairs while the Titanic is sinking.

[JBreezeNY]

How do you think we would go with Thibs at the helm?

We'd be better defensively, offense would still be trash, offense would be iso Melo & run KP through the post.

Robin Lopez would be used the same way he was used in Portland.

Team would probably be broken down by next season with all the heavy minutes but they would be playing hard every game.

team is broken down now. melo and kp both look beat up.

This true.

Like I keep saying if there is someone to blame, he has 13 rings & sits in the Knicks front office from time to time when he isn't blowing Jeanie Buss' back out.

[Fat Kat]

KP should be allowed to suck without people making excuses for him. He'll get better, but he's playing like trash and its no one else's fault. Enough with the BS.

These rookies always hit walls though Fat Kat. Yeah he hasn't been as good as he was earlier but also yeah the rookie wall hits these guys right around the all star break too. It is what it is. He kind of spoiled us though too.

I agree. The kid's great. I just don't want people to get too defensive. They're making it everyone's fault but his. Everyone gets criticized around here and it's ok.

[god shammgod]

I'm afraid this only ends one way.

in sadness with an ashtray full of newports ?

[DaGawd]

ew why we got another tnt game for tho...

[R-DAWG]

We'd be better defensively, offense would still be trash, offense would be iso Melo & run KP through the post.

Robin Lopez would be used the same way he was used in Portland.

Team would probably be broken down by next season with all the heavy minutes but they would be playing hard every game.

team is broken down now. melo and kp both look beat up.

This true.

Like I keep saying if there is someone to blame, he has 13 rings & sits in the Knicks front office from time to time when he isn't blowing Jeanie Buss' back out.

The 2 year anniversary of Phil joining the Knicks is coming up, I think the honeymoon is up.

His performance has been mediocre at best