K-DOT wrote:Can't wait to see KP and Melo wearing the orange and blue next year
me too, lets hope we keep our lotto pick
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K-DOT wrote:Can't wait to see KP and Melo wearing the orange and blue next year
Anders wrote:The sweetest revenge is living well! Darius Rucker said it, so you know its real!
god shammgod wrote:one thing i noticed in those videos. kp is not very flexible. he has problems getting parallel on body weight squats and lunges.
Tron Carter wrote:i'll say it again. **** devin booker. only a matter of time before you brats start calling for his head when he's chucking it up in the garden.
frothbrain wrote:KP looks much bigger. I guess he finally realized he's a center in this league.
Jstock12 wrote:god shammgod wrote:one thing i noticed in those videos. kp is not very flexible. he has problems getting parallel on body weight squats and lunges.
It's all relative dude. He's **** 7'3.
Fury wrote:Booker is a "great scorer" and he has a TS% less than KP, and that's all he does, score! It would be a terrible trade
knicks9784 wrote:K-DOT wrote:Can't wait to see KP and Melo wearing the orange and blue next year
me too, lets hope we keep our lotto pick
levendis wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:levendis wrote:
Sure he's been bad but that's not franchise damaging. He's had one awful contract in Noah. His trades weren't even that bad. The only thing you can really complain is not getting enough value for his pieces. He hasn't really given up anything in trades. You know like unprotected 1st for Tmac, Bargs, etc. The tweeting and pissing players off, whatever, that's really not that important. Isiah literally went to court for sexual harassment and Dolan tried to help cover it up and people don't even mention it anymore.
Phil trading KP for garbage would be a franchise altering move. But atm we have picks and a nice looking front court of the future. The rest is noise.
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Noah's contract is beyond awful - it's the worst or second worst in the entire NBA. On top of that, there was no need for him with the front court we had.
He's acquired players in an attempt to make the playoffs, only to fail because either they're always hurt, they suck, or they don't fit. He traded away RoLo for **** and got horrible value in the previous deals before that. That cannot be overlooked.
I don't think it's noise as all - if KP is legitimately annoyed, and players already don't want to sign here, we're ****. The fact that he went on TV to reduce the value of Melo (after already doing so through Rosen and Twitter) and then goes on TV to complain about KP and alienate our future shows that he's an immature twat who doesn't know what he's doing (especially when you take into account everything he's done). The tweeting and callin players out IS important because it's a players league. If players don't want to play here because they don't like Phil, we're ****.
Yeah, Thomas was very bad, but that doesn't excuse Phil one bit for being a **** FO executive either.
I agree Phil has been bad. And yes the rolo trade was bad and that worries me that he'll get a crap return. But listen to what I'm arguing. Franchise damaging is was Sean Marks inherited from the Nets. No picks, no stars, etc. If Phil was fired and was replaced with Someone more competent, are you going to tell me that we wouldn't be in a good spot? We'd probably be in the best position we have been in over a decade honestly.
What you're saying isn't wrong. But I don't think it's as big of a deal as you think. No one was coming to this team anyway. Who was signing here before Phil came here? We're going to have to win games to get players to sign period. Phil isn't here forever, all this **** will be forgotten once he leaves. It's more of a stain on him than the Knicks.
Clyde Frazier wrote:Seeing fans of other teams / writers salivate at what they'd offer for KP is making me sick to my stomach.