[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

[Reign23]

Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.

nah I don't think so. 4 + parsons

for

#9 + lee + lance + x

or

#9 + timmy + burke + x

is the framework. depends on what the grizz are looking for. either get off as much salary as possible or get as good as possible with the trade. the question mark obv is the asset the knicks have to add.

Why Grizzlies would take either Lee + Lance or Timmy if whole point of them trading that pick is to open up cap space? I think that we're looking to unload them, so we can absorb Parsons straight away.

lance + lee for parsons saves them 15 mio over next 2 seasons. that's the most we can do in termns of cap space.

[semjazy]

Why Grizzlies would take either Lee + Lance or Timmy if whole point of them trading that pick is to open up cap space? I think that we're looking to unload them, so we can absorb Parsons straight away.

Em, if the plan is to free capspace to sign some one like Lee, then its plausible.

I'd say the goal for Memphis isn't really to free up cap space to sign players, I think they want to convert Parson's salary into players that can actually play on the court (even if they're not really that good), and get low enough below the cap so that they don't get into the tax re-signing Tyreke Evans

IMHO in that case they don't have to trade 4th pick, they can just trade future draft pick + Parsons for Lee

[ChaosHamster]

I was talking to my dad (who doesn't really understand basketball) yesterday, and I brought up the point that it's kinda weird that staying in school is seen as a negative for basketball players

I kinda get it if it's a situation like Miles Bridges, who came back for another year but didn't really improve that much, but in the case of Mikal, a guy who has markedly improved every single year, I don't understand

Like, I get the whole "potential" argument, I'm on team Frank after all, but we shouldn't dismiss a player that's proven to grow like Mikal. It's like having someone else develop Frank for 3 years before we draft him, just cause he's older doesn't mean his potential has gone down, it means we have less work to do developing him

I don't know, I just really like Mikal at 9 and I think he has a higher ceiling on offense than some of y'all give him credit for, and is an excellent defender to boot

But what if you take Knox and he develops into Kevin Durant in those 3 years he has on Mikal!?

[DOLPHIN2020]

Man, I hope Kings won't pass on Luka. Kings fans are so hyped right now. Would feel bad for them. ;(

luka could go no 1, he has connections with the Suns new coach

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[Jellybeans]

I was talking to my dad (who doesn't really understand basketball) yesterday, and I brought up the point that it's kinda weird that staying in school is seen as a negative for basketball players

I kinda get it if it's a situation like Miles Bridges, who came back for another year but didn't really improve that much, but in the case of Mikal, a guy who has markedly improved every single year, I don't understand

Like, I get the whole "potential" argument, I'm on team Frank after all, but we shouldn't dismiss a player that's proven to grow like Mikal. It's like having someone else develop Frank for 3 years before we draft him, just cause he's older doesn't mean his potential has gone down, it means we have less work to do developing him

I don't know, I just really like Mikal at 9 and I think he has a higher ceiling on offense than some of y'all give him credit for, and is an excellent defender to boot

But what if you take Knox and he develops into Kevin Durant in those 3 years he has on Mikal!?

KP was 3-4 year project too,and didnt have body for NBA.And we know how it ended..

[King of Canada]

Em, if the plan is to free capspace to sign some one like Lee, then its plausible.

I'd say the goal for Memphis isn't really to free up cap space to sign players, I think they want to convert Parson's salary into players that can actually play on the court (even if they're not really that good), and get low enough below the cap so that they don't get into the tax re-signing Tyreke Evans

IMHO in that case they don't have to trade 4th pick, they can just trade future draft pick + Parsons for Lee

But who is going to eat $50mill for a random future pick? The chances of Memphis being top 4 bad next year are pretty slim, also considering they want the improve?

[semjazy]

Man, I hope Kings won't pass on Luka. Kings fans are so hyped right now. Would feel bad for them. ;(

I feel bad for Luka

Don't feel bad for him. It would take only us trading up to 4th pick, and him to tell other teams that he would only sign with us, and he would end up on the Knicks

[DOT]

I was talking to my dad (who doesn't really understand basketball) yesterday, and I brought up the point that it's kinda weird that staying in school is seen as a negative for basketball players

I kinda get it if it's a situation like Miles Bridges, who came back for another year but didn't really improve that much, but in the case of Mikal, a guy who has markedly improved every single year, I don't understand

Like, I get the whole "potential" argument, I'm on team Frank after all, but we shouldn't dismiss a player that's proven to grow like Mikal. It's like having someone else develop Frank for 3 years before we draft him, just cause he's older doesn't mean his potential has gone down, it means we have less work to do developing him

I don't know, I just really like Mikal at 9 and I think he has a higher ceiling on offense than some of y'all give him credit for, and is an excellent defender to boot

But what if you take Knox and he develops into Kevin Durant in those 3 years he has on Mikal!?

If Knox develops into KD, I'll be really impressed

He has a better base (offensively) than Mikal at the same age, so I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up better than Mikal in the long run, which is why I have him only slightly behind Mikal on my big board

But also, we don't know how well Knox will develop going forward, whereas Mikal at least has a good history of development, and I don't see Mikal having a low floor to mean he also has a low ceiling, I think if he develops as he should, he can get to Khris Middleton levels offensively, with Robert Covington level of defense, which is a damn good player

[DOLPHIN2020]

the trade ideas for #4 in here are so crazy in favor of ny, half of the board gon be crying if a real trade pops up.

Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.

FIFY

Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th, Parsons and Vaseline

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[DOT]

I was talking to my dad (who doesn't really understand basketball) yesterday, and I brought up the point that it's kinda weird that staying in school is seen as a negative for basketball players

I kinda get it if it's a situation like Miles Bridges, who came back for another year but didn't really improve that much, but in the case of Mikal, a guy who has markedly improved every single year, I don't understand

Like, I get the whole "potential" argument, I'm on team Frank after all, but we shouldn't dismiss a player that's proven to grow like Mikal. It's like having someone else develop Frank for 3 years before we draft him, just cause he's older doesn't mean his potential has gone down, it means we have less work to do developing him

I don't know, I just really like Mikal at 9 and I think he has a higher ceiling on offense than some of y'all give him credit for, and is an excellent defender to boot

But what if you take Knox and he develops into Kevin Durant in those 3 years he has on Mikal!?

KP was 3-4 year project too,and didnt have body for NBA.And we know how it ended..

I have it as Mikal has a slight edge over Knox

Knox is better at 18 than Mikal was (on offense), but there's a better chance that Knox doesn't make it at the next level than Mikal. I'd be fine with either of them, just a little disappointed if we took Knox over Mikal

[semjazy]

I'd say the goal for Memphis isn't really to free up cap space to sign players, I think they want to convert Parson's salary into players that can actually play on the court (even if they're not really that good), and get low enough below the cap so that they don't get into the tax re-signing Tyreke Evans

IMHO in that case they don't have to trade 4th pick, they can just trade future draft pick + Parsons for Lee

But who is going to eat $50mill for a random future pick? The chances of Memphis being top 4 bad next year are pretty slim, also considering they want the improve?

Yes, they want to improve, but 9th + Lee + Lance + resign Tyreke it's not improvement worth 4th pick in good draft

[DOT]

IMHO in that case they don't have to trade 4th pick, they can just trade future draft pick + Parsons for Lee

But who is going to eat $50mill for a random future pick? The chances of Memphis being top 4 bad next year are pretty slim, also considering they want the improve?

Yes, they want to improve, but 9th + Lee + Lance + resign Tyreke it's not improvement worth 4th pick in good draft

You're also not the one cutting the checks

Not every team is the Knicks and just has gobs of money lying around

Small market teams have to be frugal sometimes

[ChaosHamster]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/kevin-knox

Someone forgot to add his strengths, or did he?

[semjazy]

But who is going to eat $50mill for a random future pick? The chances of Memphis being top 4 bad next year are pretty slim, also considering they want the improve?

Yes, they want to improve, but 9th + Lee + Lance + resign Tyreke it's not improvement worth 4th pick in good draft

You're also not the one cutting the checks

Not every team is the Knicks and just has gobs of money lying around

Small market teams have to be frugal sometimes

Sure, that is why I don't understand why they would be intrested in remaining 2 years 12 milion $ per year of Lee

[DOT]

Yes, they want to improve, but 9th + Lee + Lance + resign Tyreke it's not improvement worth 4th pick in good draft

You're also not the one cutting the checks

Not every team is the Knicks and just has gobs of money lying around

Small market teams have to be frugal sometimes

Sure, that is why I don't understand why they would be intrested in remaining 2 years 12 milion $ per year of Lee

Because it's half of Parson's contract, and you get a player that can actually contribute to a winning team?

[thebuzzardman]

Grizzlies in talks with "multiple teams"

Seems like quite a few other teams can offer more cap relief or better players or a better combination. Once I read that I instantly took the Knicks out of the running in my mind. It's just easier that way. Knicks never come through in situations like this.

[TheGreenArrow]

It would surprise me if the Knicks did anything but take a player at 9....... and 36.... all smoke, no high.

I agree. The knicks are never innovative enough to pull off a deal of this magnitude.

[Jellybeans]

But what if you take Knox and he develops into Kevin Durant in those 3 years he has on Mikal!?

KP was 3-4 year project too,and didnt have body for NBA.And we know how it ended..

I have it as Mikal has a slight edge over Knox

Knox is better at 18 than Mikal was (on offense), but there's a better chance that Knox doesn't make it at the next level than Mikal. I'd be fine with either of them, just a little disappointed if we took Knox over Mikal

I have one bad thing about not drafting Mikal.Phili picks him..That could be their last missing piece.

[Rasho Brezec]

Frank will be a nice fit in Atlanta. Doncic can dunk on Porzingis in practice.

[TheGreenArrow]

Grizzlies in talks with "multiple teams"

Seems like quite a few other teams can offer more cap relief or better players or a better combination. Once I read that I instantly took the Knicks out of the running in my mind. It's just easier that way. Knicks never come through in situations like this.

Agree 100%. They've never been savy enough to pull off something like this.