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Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!!

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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#121 » by god shammgod » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:09 am

knicks now the 2nd worst defensive team in the league. the only worse team is the cavs.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/defense/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1
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Post#122 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:03 am

This thread needs to be locked or the title changed lol.
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#123 » by Context » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:04 am

god shammgod wrote:knicks now the 2nd worst defensive team in the league. the only worse team is the cavs.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/defense/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

:lol: good! lets keep it this way -full steam to the #1 pick...
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#124 » by pootbrah » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:36 am

every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#125 » by Ray Williams » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:44 pm

pootbrah wrote:every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?

We have some really bad defensive players that the coach doesn’t hold accountable and gives them plenty of playing time. Most of them should be gone next year.
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#126 » by reub » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:18 pm

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pootbrah wrote:every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?

We have some really bad defensive players that the coach doesn’t hold accountable and gives them plenty of playing time. Most of them should be gone next year.


But we also have Frank and Mitch who are game changers on defense. :D
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#127 » by pootbrah » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:00 am

reub wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:
pootbrah wrote:every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?

We have some really bad defensive players that the coach doesn’t hold accountable and gives them plenty of playing time. Most of them should be gone next year.


But we also have Frank and Mitch who are game changers on defense. :D


i dont know whats trolling and whats literal in this thread. Apparently Frank is a good defender and I have no idea, haven't watched enough of him but for clarification do you think both of them would have all nba defensive potential in the near future?
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#128 » by Greenie » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:12 am

god shammgod wrote:knicks now the 2nd worst defensive team in the league. the only worse team is the cavs.

https://stats.nba.com/teams/defense/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1

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Re: Fizdale Affect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#129 » by Greenie » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:14 am

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magnumt wrote:
Greenie wrote:How many games we play?


The same amount as the rest of the League so far. If people can bash us this early FOR Defense, we can certainly be praised for improving ON Defense. ;)

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I’ll wait till December.



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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#130 » by GONYK » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:21 am

pootbrah wrote:
reub wrote:
Ray Williams wrote: We have some really bad defensive players that the coach doesn’t hold accountable and gives them plenty of playing time. Most of them should be gone next year.


But we also have Frank and Mitch who are game changers on defense. :D


i dont know whats trolling and whats literal in this thread. Apparently Frank is a good defender and I have no idea, haven't watched enough of him but for clarification do you think both of them would have all nba defensive potential in the near future?

Yes. Frank without a doubt has that potential.
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#131 » by Adelheid » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:49 am

pootbrah wrote:every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?


Alot of it has to do with Fiz lineup combinations. He is like Derek Fisher bad, making lineups and subs that dont make sense and is damn laughable. No hatin here, just keeping it real.

Not only that, the offense is also garbage and just devolves into 1-on-1s
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#132 » by br7knicks » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:40 pm

looking at defensive stats for the knicks is depressingly disappointing.

if a coach is doing their job, a young team will compete on both ends of the court, whether they win or not. when watching, it looks a lot like effort, and fiz needs to do a better job of holding players accountable.


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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#133 » by br7knicks » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:41 pm

pootbrah wrote:every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?


they don't compete, for the most part. at least not defensively. it's sad. some guys try, and you can see it. some guys try, but they suck no matter what - kanter. they compete on offense, mostly.
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Re: Fizdale Effect: Knicks With 5th Best Defense (even with Mario)!!! 

Post#134 » by cgf » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:47 pm

pootbrah wrote:every Knick game I watch they always seem pretty competitive, as they dominate the Celtics as I speak. Are they really as bad as their record shows?


The tank is strong. They are something like 1-6 in 5 point games with a number of games that were close heading into the 4th that fell apart in the final 6-7 minutes.

Fiz is doing a great job of utilizing Trey/Mudiay & Kanter’s PNR defense, while throwing Timmy on #1 options to secure the losses our draft pick needs.
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