FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc

[Sark]

look, nobody knows. but if someone wanted to play in a big market and team up with another star they have 3 options. us, the nets, the clippers. none of those teams have any great pieces besides the cap space (our pick could change that), so it's really about where is the best place to play. the clippers and nets will always be 2nd franchises in cities and not nearly as popular. you might say, why would they join a team with no great pieces ? because just like lebron & wade thought, these guys have the confidence that give them 1 or 2 other great players and they can win it all. all the ring chasers will show up to wherever they team up anyway.

or everyone could just stay where they are. but if you were to leave, you're not leaving to become a net. and you're probably not leaving to play on l.a's 2nd team while lebron is playing for the 1st one. you'll get more attention playing here then anywhere else.

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

[GEOLINK]

We can have Perry and Fiz talk for us in the meeting. Mills can play the background.

[blanko]

When a guy like amin says that the knicks did this because they have been communicating with KD . I feel much better about this trade. We would not trade KP without going through KD.

We asked: do you want to bring kyrie/preimiter player or play with KP?

he said he doesnt care if KP is here as long as he has kyrie or another high lvl perimeter player.

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[NoLayupRule]

Davis and Kyrie going to la. Kd stays in GS . Kawhi going somewhere not NY

Negative Nancy, eh? Why don't you just aim and blow off both of our team's feet?

It’ll be amazing to see the lakers pull off three supermax contracts

I know they get the breaks and all but I’m not sure how they get to circumvent the salary cap too

[god shammgod]

look, nobody knows. but if someone wanted to play in a big market and team up with another star they have 3 options. us, the nets, the clippers. none of those teams have any great pieces besides the cap space (our pick could change that), so it's really about where is the best place to play. the clippers and nets will always be 2nd franchises in cities and not nearly as popular. you might say, why would they join a team with no great pieces ? because just like lebron & wade thought, these guys have the confidence that give them 1 or 2 other great players and they can win it all. all the ring chasers will show up to wherever they team up anyway.

or everyone could just stay where they are. but if you were to leave, you're not leaving to become a net. and you're probably not leaving to play on l.a's 2nd team while lebron is playing for the 1st one. you'll get more attention playing here then anywhere else.

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

we had space for 2 maxes once in our history. it failed that time but it did work for miami. i don't know if it's possible to have space for 2 maxes and be that good. most of the guys who make the clippers and nets decent have to leave for them to have 2 maxes. if those guys want to be on good teams they'll just stay where they are. which is very possible. my only point is, if you're gonna choose to leave, you're not gonna be a brooklyn net.

and if nobody great comes, just tank again.

[DowNY]

Davis and Kyrie going to la. Kd stays in GS . Kawhi going somewhere not NY

Negative Nancy, eh? Why don't you just aim and blow off both of our team's feet?

It’ll be amazing to see the lakers pull off three supermax contracts

I know they get the breaks and all but I’m not sure how they get to circumvent the salary cap too

I think if Lakers get AD, Kemba will suffice for them.
Won’t be as much as Kyrie but Lebron can use him like Kyrie-lite.

[DowNY]

look, nobody knows. but if someone wanted to play in a big market and team up with another star they have 3 options. us, the nets, the clippers. none of those teams have any great pieces besides the cap space (our pick could change that), so it's really about where is the best place to play. the clippers and nets will always be 2nd franchises in cities and not nearly as popular. you might say, why would they join a team with no great pieces ? because just like lebron & wade thought, these guys have the confidence that give them 1 or 2 other great players and they can win it all. all the ring chasers will show up to wherever they team up anyway.

or everyone could just stay where they are. but if you were to leave, you're not leaving to become a net. and you're probably not leaving to play on l.a's 2nd team while lebron is playing for the 1st one. you'll get more attention playing here then anywhere else.

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

we had space for 2 maxes once in our history. it failed that time but it did work for miami. i don't know if it's possible to have space for 2 maxes and be that good. most of the guys who make the clippers and nets decent have to leave for them to have 2 maxes. if those guys want to be on good teams they'll just stay where they are. which is very possible. my only point is, if you're gonna choose to leave, you're not gonna be a brooklyn net.

and if nobody great comes, just tank again.

Yeah, I think Nets and clippers will end up just having 1 max spot opposed to 2 when it comes down to it.

[NoLayupRule]

look, nobody knows. but if someone wanted to play in a big market and team up with another star they have 3 options. us, the nets, the clippers. none of those teams have any great pieces besides the cap space (our pick could change that), so it's really about where is the best place to play. the clippers and nets will always be 2nd franchises in cities and not nearly as popular. you might say, why would they join a team with no great pieces ? because just like lebron & wade thought, these guys have the confidence that give them 1 or 2 other great players and they can win it all. all the ring chasers will show up to wherever they team up anyway.

or everyone could just stay where they are. but if you were to leave, you're not leaving to become a net. and you're probably not leaving to play on l.a's 2nd team while lebron is playing for the 1st one. you'll get more attention playing here then anywhere else.

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

Well it’s a little different

One time we had the space to do anything like this was 2010
Never before
2010 was Lebron or bust. I don’t think this year is Durant or bust. There is AD, kawhi, etc.

And nyc isn’t where we were in 2010. A clean slate with a top pick and several other young pieces vs where we were in 2010

We could strike out
But we’re in the game

[god shammgod]

everybody might stay. but if they leave, here are the teams with a lot of cap space

knicks - 74 mill
clippers - 61 mill
kings - 58 mill
nets - 54 mill
hawks - 53 mill

the biggest threat is the clippers. but the west is tough as hell and they can't even fit the max of durant and someone else. does durant leave the warriors to join the clippers anyway ? nah. those other teams have even less money and nobody is going to those places.

[Sark]

look, nobody knows. but if someone wanted to play in a big market and team up with another star they have 3 options. us, the nets, the clippers. none of those teams have any great pieces besides the cap space (our pick could change that), so it's really about where is the best place to play. the clippers and nets will always be 2nd franchises in cities and not nearly as popular. you might say, why would they join a team with no great pieces ? because just like lebron & wade thought, these guys have the confidence that give them 1 or 2 other great players and they can win it all. all the ring chasers will show up to wherever they team up anyway.

or everyone could just stay where they are. but if you were to leave, you're not leaving to become a net. and you're probably not leaving to play on l.a's 2nd team while lebron is playing for the 1st one. you'll get more attention playing here then anywhere else.

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

we had space for 2 maxes once in our history. it failed that time but it did work for miami. i don't know if it's possible to have space for 2 maxes and be that good. most of the guys who make the clippers and nets decent have to leave for them to have 2 maxes. if those guys want to be on good teams they'll just stay where they are. which is very possible. my only point is, if you're gonna choose to leave, you're not gonna be a brooklyn net.

and if nobody great comes, just tank again.

It worked for Miami because they had Pat the Rat, who is an all time great salesman, and he had multiple rings to show off, and was coming off of one just a few years back with Wade.

What championship pedigree can the Knicks show, other than Perry who was a low level assistant back in 2004. Wherever Durant ends up, he needs to win for his legacy. If you're Durant, are you really putting your legacy in one of the worst organizations in the sport, just because it's in NY? That's a tough sell.

I can see Kyrie doing it, because he doesn't have much of a legacy. But Durant is playing to be one of the best players of all time. Putting all that into NY can backfire on him, and you know that.

[god shammgod]

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

we had space for 2 maxes once in our history. it failed that time but it did work for miami. i don't know if it's possible to have space for 2 maxes and be that good. most of the guys who make the clippers and nets decent have to leave for them to have 2 maxes. if those guys want to be on good teams they'll just stay where they are. which is very possible. my only point is, if you're gonna choose to leave, you're not gonna be a brooklyn net.

and if nobody great comes, just tank again.

It worked for Miami because they had Pat the Rat, who is an all time great salesman, and he had multiple rings to show off, and was coming off of one just a few years back with Wade.

What championship pedigree can the Knicks show, other than Perry who was a low level assistant back in 2004. Wherever Durant ends up, he needs to win for his legacy. If you're Durant, are you really putting your legacy in one of the worst organizations in the sport, just because it's in NY? That's a tough sell.

I can see Kyrie doing it, because he doesn't have much of a legacy. But Durant is playing to be one of the best players of all time. Putting all that into NY can backfire on him, and you know that.

the key to getting durant is probably him, or us, convincing someone to join him who's good enough. other than that it will probably fail. don't think i'm convinced this is happening. i'm not. but if he were to leave, where is he going if not here ? strangely enough, we would seem to be option 2 after staying put.

[cgmw]

look, nobody knows. but if someone wanted to play in a big market and team up with another star they have 3 options. us, the nets, the clippers. none of those teams have any great pieces besides the cap space (our pick could change that), so it's really about where is the best place to play. the clippers and nets will always be 2nd franchises in cities and not nearly as popular. you might say, why would they join a team with no great pieces ? because just like lebron & wade thought, these guys have the confidence that give them 1 or 2 other great players and they can win it all. all the ring chasers will show up to wherever they team up anyway.

or everyone could just stay where they are. but if you were to leave, you're not leaving to become a net. and you're probably not leaving to play on l.a's 2nd team while lebron is playing for the 1st one. you'll get more attention playing here then anywhere else.

We've been using that "why come to NY" sales pitch for 2 decades now, and it's never worked. I don't know, maybe this time it does. We'll see.

The one pitch we've never used is "come to NY because we're actually good". I have a feeling this one would work better.

we had space for 2 maxes once in our history. it failed that time but it did work for miami. i don't know if it's possible to have space for 2 maxes and be that good. most of the guys who make the clippers and nets decent have to leave for them to have 2 maxes. if those guys want to be on good teams they'll just stay where they are. which is very possible. my only point is, if you're gonna choose to leave, you're not gonna be a brooklyn net.

and if nobody great comes, just tank again.

In fairness, this is the first time that I can recall the roster being complete void of bad contracts and full of future picks.

We’ve definitely never seen an offseason like this before.

[Sark]

we had space for 2 maxes once in our history. it failed that time but it did work for miami. i don't know if it's possible to have space for 2 maxes and be that good. most of the guys who make the clippers and nets decent have to leave for them to have 2 maxes. if those guys want to be on good teams they'll just stay where they are. which is very possible. my only point is, if you're gonna choose to leave, you're not gonna be a brooklyn net.

and if nobody great comes, just tank again.

It worked for Miami because they had Pat the Rat, who is an all time great salesman, and he had multiple rings to show off, and was coming off of one just a few years back with Wade.

What championship pedigree can the Knicks show, other than Perry who was a low level assistant back in 2004. Wherever Durant ends up, he needs to win for his legacy. If you're Durant, are you really putting your legacy in one of the worst organizations in the sport, just because it's in NY? That's a tough sell.

I can see Kyrie doing it, because he doesn't have much of a legacy. But Durant is playing to be one of the best players of all time. Putting all that into NY can backfire on him, and you know that.

the key to getting durant is probably him, or us, convincing someone to join him who's good enough. other than that it will probably fail. don't think i'm convinced this is happening. i'm not. but if he were to leave, where is he going if not here ? strangely enough, we would seem to be option 2 after staying put.

He can go to the Lakers to play with Lebron. I mean Kyrie said he missed playing with him too. Maybe they all end up there again.

It wouldn't be the first time NY got it's hopes up, only to watch everyone go somewhere else.

[god shammgod]

It worked for Miami because they had Pat the Rat, who is an all time great salesman, and he had multiple rings to show off, and was coming off of one just a few years back with Wade.

What championship pedigree can the Knicks show, other than Perry who was a low level assistant back in 2004. Wherever Durant ends up, he needs to win for his legacy. If you're Durant, are you really putting your legacy in one of the worst organizations in the sport, just because it's in NY? That's a tough sell.

I can see Kyrie doing it, because he doesn't have much of a legacy. But Durant is playing to be one of the best players of all time. Putting all that into NY can backfire on him, and you know that.

the key to getting durant is probably him, or us, convincing someone to join him who's good enough. other than that it will probably fail. don't think i'm convinced this is happening. i'm not. but if he were to leave, where is he going if not here ? strangely enough, we would seem to be option 2 after staying put.

He can go to the Lakers to play with Lebron. I mean Kyrie said he missed playing with him too. Maybe they all end up there again.

It wouldn't be the first time NY got it's hopes up, only to watch everyone go somewhere else.

he did specifically say teaming up with lebron would be toxic. kyrie could go there though. that seems very possible.

[DowNY]

I think Lebron & KD might have an agreement about making the big markets of LA & NY matter again. KD leaves while the Lakers add another big piece or 2 and it makes Lakers favorite out west. Meanwhile, KD can come East with someone and be just as favorited based on the right moves.

[DowNY]

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Went back to recap info over the past few days since the trade. I’m sure some of this been posted but the threads were moving at a rapid pace, so yeah.

[Juco24]

When a guy like amin says that the knicks did this because they have been communicating with KD . I feel much better about this trade. We would not trade KP without going through KD.

We asked: do you want to bring kyrie/preimiter player or play with KP?

he said he doesnt care if KP is here as long as he has kyrie or another high lvl perimeter player.

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Wow.Amin said that? Was this on a podcast? Thanks for the info

[DowNY]

When a guy like amin says that the knicks did this because they have been communicating with KD . I feel much better about this trade. We would not trade KP without going through KD.

We asked: do you want to bring kyrie/preimiter player or play with KP?

he said he doesnt care if KP is here as long as he has kyrie or another high lvl perimeter player.

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Wow.Amin said that? Was this on a podcast? Thanks for the info

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He filled in for Jalen this episode and said it here

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Went back to recap info over the past few days since the trade. I’m sure some of this been posted but the threads were moving at a rapid pace, so yeah.

Knicks logo on a celtics garment. Kyrie may really not stay there.