Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread

[DOT]

Now... most people on here seem to think that DSJ and Fultz are two of the worst shooters of all time and both turn the ball over too much. Yet, both were better shooters than RJ and Cam at the same age. Not to mention, both also had a higher AST/TO ratio. In other words, I'm very NOT SOLD on Cam or RJ. I'd rather take the guy who is hitting over 80% from the FT line (including 21-21 from the FT line recently in ONE GAME - This indicates natural elite shooting ability that will continue to develop), has good PG size and elite athleticism.

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

I never liked Ja as a top 5 pick, but he's firmly off the board for me now that we have DSJ. Culver would be a much better pick imo, especially if he is really 6'8 like I've heard he might be

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[drekwins]

Now... most people on here seem to think that DSJ and Fultz are two of the worst shooters of all time and both turn the ball over too much. Yet, both were better shooters than RJ and Cam at the same age. Not to mention, both also had a higher AST/TO ratio. In other words, I'm very NOT SOLD on Cam or RJ. I'd rather take the guy who is hitting over 80% from the FT line (including 21-21 from the FT line recently in ONE GAME - This indicates natural elite shooting ability that will continue to develop), has good PG size and elite athleticism.

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

I never liked Ja as a top 5 pick, but he's firmly off the board for me now that we have DSJ. Culver would be a much better pick imo, especially if he is really 6'8 like I've heard he might be

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I'm good with Culver too. I think there's going to be some late risers (ala Westbrook). The top guys are very underwhelming other than Zion and Ja. We have to take best player though. There may only be 2-3 good guys in this draft. It's very weak.

[SmoothLefty21]

Now... most people on here seem to think that DSJ and Fultz are two of the worst shooters of all time and both turn the ball over too much. Yet, both were better shooters than RJ and Cam at the same age. Not to mention, both also had a higher AST/TO ratio. In other words, I'm very NOT SOLD on Cam or RJ. I'd rather take the guy who is hitting over 80% from the FT line (including 21-21 from the FT line recently in ONE GAME - This indicates natural elite shooting ability that will continue to develop), has good PG size and elite athleticism.

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

I never liked Ja as a top 5 pick, but he's firmly off the board for me now that we have DSJ. Culver would be a much better pick imo, especially if he is really 6'8 like I've heard he might be

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There's a rumor that Culver is 6'8? He doesn't look close to it on TV IMO. I'd be fine with him, hell I might even prefer him over Barrett by June.

I don't like the idea of crossing Morant off our board because we have DSJ but I'm still a non-believer in DSJ. Clearly the FO is though, based on all the marketing we've seen since the trade. We better workout Morant still and if he blows us away you can't let a guy like DSJ deter you from drafting another PG.

[DOT]

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

I never liked Ja as a top 5 pick, but he's firmly off the board for me now that we have DSJ. Culver would be a much better pick imo, especially if he is really 6'8 like I've heard he might be

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There's a rumor that Culver is 6'8? He doesn't look close to it on TV IMO. I'd be fine with him, hell I might even prefer him over Barrett by June.

I don't like the idea of crossing Morant off our board because we have DSJ but I'm still a non-believer in DSJ. Clearly the FO is though, based on all the marketing we've seen since the trade. We better workout Morant still and if he blows us away you can't let a guy like DSJ deter you from drafting another PG.

I saw a scouting report that had pictures of him standing next to other guys, and he seemed to be over the 6'5 he's listed at. Which makes sense cause he was measured before his freshman year, so it's possible he grew a couple inches

I'm just not sold on the Ja hype. His shooting is terrible (KT put up the stats, he literally can't hit jumpers off the dribble from anywhere), his finishing isn't that good (which is only gonna get worse as he faces NBA level defenses and actual centers that can block shots), and his defense is nearly nonexistent. He has his positives, but I think he tops out at taller Dennis Schroeder. Top 10 pick, but shouldn't be touched in the top 5. DSJ is the better prospect as far as I'm concerned, and they can't play with each other, like Cam and Knox could (I'm not that high on Cam either, just as an example).

This draft really sucks outside of Zion, it looks like. Maybe we get a 2013 scenario where it just takes a few years for guys to develop, but I don't see anyone that's really worth a top 3 pick (besides Zion, obviously)

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[SmoothLefty21]

I saw a scouting report that had pictures of him standing next to other guys, and he seemed to be over the 6'5 he's listed at. Which makes sense cause he was measured before his freshman year, so it's possible he grew a couple inches.

Funny, I just went back and watched his clips vs Duke. He's definitely close in size to Barrett and Reddish. I'm all board if we end up with him, assuming it's not Zion of course.

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[Jeff Van Gully]

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[Jeff Van Gully]

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damn good looks. i like it.

[SelbyCobra]

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iverson probably not the best all-star weekend influence fi di yute dem.

Meh, AI seems to have moved on with his life and embraced being the old head. I love watching contemporary interviews with him. I actually think he might be a really good for DSJ at this juncture.

[K_ick_God]

Other than Knox, I'm really pleased with all of our young players. Excluding Mudiay too.

Knox still the most talented though. And he seems like a good kid who will work hard. No not a great motor but that is not as bad as it seems. He cuts well for instance. His stroke is there, but he needs to work much harder on his shot.

Sorry this is the Dennis thread. I think Dennis playing D and passing is already good. I wouldn't worry about his jumper much. It won't be great but he can make them. I think that Dennis has already looked better than Mudiay looked all year. Mudiay got better but I don't like the way he plays or his approach -- and it felt like Mudiay just learned to finish better and chuck often. Dennis a smarter and better player with a higher ceiling.

[taj2133]

iverson probably not the best all-star weekend influence fi di yute dem.

Iverson moved to charlotte with his family over there.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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iverson probably not the best all-star weekend influence fi di yute dem.

Meh, AI seems to have moved on with his life and embraced being the old head. I love watching contemporary interviews with him. I actually think he might be a really good for DSJ at this juncture.

i hope so. i think alcoholism is rough. iverson is probably a high relapse risk all his life. club nights probably hard.

[SelbyCobra]

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iverson probably not the best all-star weekend influence fi di yute dem.

Meh, AI seems to have moved on with his life and embraced being the old head. I love watching contemporary interviews with him. I actually think he might be a really good for DSJ at this juncture.

i hope so. i think alcoholism is rough. iverson is probably a high relapse risk all his life. club nights probably hard.

For sure. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's a day party (which means nothing if the monster rears its head).

[Jeff Van Gully]

Meh, AI seems to have moved on with his life and embraced being the old head. I love watching contemporary interviews with him. I actually think he might be a really good for DSJ at this juncture.

i hope so. i think alcoholism is rough. iverson is probably a high relapse risk all his life. club nights probably hard.

For sure. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's a day party (which means nothing if the monster rears its head).

good call. i didn't even peep that! i'm no longer tripping.

[CharlesOakley]

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

I never liked Ja as a top 5 pick, but he's firmly off the board for me now that we have DSJ. Culver would be a much better pick imo, especially if he is really 6'8 like I've heard he might be

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I'm good with Culver too. I think there's going to be some late risers (ala Westbrook). The top guys are very underwhelming other than Zion and Ja. We have to take best player though. There may only be 2-3 good guys in this draft. It's very weak.

Zion's shooting worries me, his height worries me and his standing reach worries me. His wingspan and standing reach is less than James Harden. He also has a weight issue. Only Barkley and LJ were able to play PF in the NBA at that size and LJ didn't stay at the top for very long.

I'm not suggesting not taking him with the 1st pick but no one in this draft class looks like a lock to me.

[thebuzzardman]

I'll enjoy this 25 game run of DSJr and Mitch before they get traded for AD

[BKlutch]

I think Mitch stole DSJ's free throw shooting

I'm serious, Mitch shot 47% before the trade, now all of a sudden he's a 65% shooter?

Meanwhile, DSJ was a 70% shooting in Dallas, now he only hits 55%?

Mitch out here absorbing powers like Super Buu, no wonder KP didn't want to play with him. Kid probably already stole his shot blocking, would've taken his jumper if he was allowed on court with him

Well that's all on Mitch. He was supposed to steal KP's free throw shooting. His bad.

[Indomitable]

Now... most people on here seem to think that DSJ and Fultz are two of the worst shooters of all time and both turn the ball over too much. Yet, both were better shooters than RJ and Cam at the same age. Not to mention, both also had a higher AST/TO ratio. In other words, I'm very NOT SOLD on Cam or RJ. I'd rather take the guy who is hitting over 80% from the FT line (including 21-21 from the FT line recently in ONE GAME - This indicates natural elite shooting ability that will continue to develop), has good PG size and elite athleticism.

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

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[drekwins]

I never liked Ja as a top 5 pick, but he's firmly off the board for me now that we have DSJ. Culver would be a much better pick imo, especially if he is really 6'8 like I've heard he might be

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I'm good with Culver too. I think there's going to be some late risers (ala Westbrook). The top guys are very underwhelming other than Zion and Ja. We have to take best player though. There may only be 2-3 good guys in this draft. It's very weak.

Zion's shooting worries me, his height worries me and his standing reach worries me. His wingspan and standing reach is less than James Harden. He also has a weight issue. Only Barkley and LJ were able to play PF in the NBA at that size and LJ didn't stay at the top for very long.

I'm not suggesting not taking him with the 1st pick but no one in this draft class looks like a lock to me.

Oh yeah..he's completely reliant on his athleticism. As LeBron mentioned, his greatest attributes truly are his raw athleticism, strength, passing ability and character. The character piece is big. I think he's going to work his tail off. I am less certain than everyone else that he will be a surfire star. However, I think he has a very good chance. He has to develop his skills. With that said, his elite dribbling, passing and finishing abilities (for his size and position) are more important than shooting ability.

[SelbyCobra]

Now... most people on here seem to think that DSJ and Fultz are two of the worst shooters of all time and both turn the ball over too much. Yet, both were better shooters than RJ and Cam at the same age. Not to mention, both also had a higher AST/TO ratio. In other words, I'm very NOT SOLD on Cam or RJ. I'd rather take the guy who is hitting over 80% from the FT line (including 21-21 from the FT line recently in ONE GAME - This indicates natural elite shooting ability that will continue to develop), has good PG size and elite athleticism.

Strongly agree. I wouldn't touch Cam in the lottery; that Givony tweet last week cemented my feelings about Reddish. Not a fan of Barrett either but this draft is dreadful and I'd probably take him #3. I firmly have Morant as my #2 after Zion.

What did he say?

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