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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#121 » by Capn'O » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:25 am

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SoCalKnickFan wrote:Man if we had signed Kyrie and ended up getting the season from him that Nets are getting, we'd be getting double roasted. So far since it's the Nets, it's crickets. As many said, his bodies not holding up. As bad as this seasons been, we definitely dodged a bullet.... well, 2 bullets.


Yeah, just saw this news and have to say as much as I wanted nothing to do with Kyrie, I feel pretty strongly our current season is still preferable to having him and KD.

I know we suck and a hundred things still need to go right, but this is the right time to have very few future commitments, lots of picks and considerable cap flexibility. If KD & Kyrie had come here, it would have been an epic disaster with very little wiggle room left to work with.

At least Rose has a fairly clean slate to work with. He might bomb, but the Nets are screwed in ways the Knicks are not.

And Kyrie is a mess. The hate him and KD would have gotten as Knicks would have been worse than the Red Wedding, so count our blessings.


I wanted KD healthy. Not so healthy - not so good. I still wish we had gone for what was behind Door #3. Getting a pick return for Morris alleviates that somewhat.
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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#122 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:57 am

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SoCalKnickFan wrote:Man if we had signed Kyrie and ended up getting the season from him that Nets are getting, we'd be getting double roasted. So far since it's the Nets, it's crickets. As many said, his bodies not holding up. As bad as this seasons been, we definitely dodged a bullet.... well, 2 bullets.


Yeah, just saw this news and have to say as much as I wanted nothing to do with Kyrie, I feel pretty strongly our current season is still preferable to having him and KD.

I know we suck and a hundred things still need to go right, but this is the right time to have very few future commitments, lots of picks and considerable cap flexibility. If KD & Kyrie had come here, it would have been an epic disaster with very little wiggle room left to work with.

At least Rose has a fairly clean slate to work with. He might bomb, but the Nets are screwed in ways the Knicks are not.

And Kyrie is a mess. The hate him and KD would have gotten as Knicks would have been worse than the Red Wedding, so count our blessings.


I wanted KD healthy. Not so healthy - not so good. I still wish we had gone for what was behind Door #3. Getting a pick return for Morris alleviates that somewhat.


Yeah, I gave Sark and Dakommish a hard time for being overly negative about our off-season signings, because they were were really ticked they didn't try to absorb some other teams' deals in order to load up on more picks.

Granted, that would probably have been the right move IF this franchise was ever in full rebuild mode, but it has never really gone fully into that mode.

So it feels kind of full circle for myself at this point which was I always felt whatever happened with the mercenary deals it was still basically buying time after having limited options to make a big splash in the last free agency.

So, really, the bigger matter is what they didn't do which is buy into a broken KD and a broken, wacky Kyrie.

What they did was not successful, but it really could have been much worse.

Even if this is currently a poorly constructed club, we should also remember Fizdale was disastrous and they probably would be in playoff contention now if Miller had been the coach in training camp.

So, dollars to donuts, getting something for Morris was good and the slate is pretty clean so as much as I've been crapping on the Knicks lately I do think anyone who is going to keep riding and dying on this horse can legitimately feel the possibilities are still pretty wide open compared to almost any other time since the 90s.
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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#123 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:00 pm

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Yeah, just saw this news and have to say as much as I wanted nothing to do with Kyrie, I feel pretty strongly our current season is still preferable to having him and KD.

I know we suck and a hundred things still need to go right, but this is the right time to have very few future commitments, lots of picks and considerable cap flexibility. If KD & Kyrie had come here, it would have been an epic disaster with very little wiggle room left to work with.

At least Rose has a fairly clean slate to work with. He might bomb, but the Nets are screwed in ways the Knicks are not.

And Kyrie is a mess. The hate him and KD would have gotten as Knicks would have been worse than the Red Wedding, so count our blessings.


I wanted KD healthy. Not so healthy - not so good. I still wish we had gone for what was behind Door #3. Getting a pick return for Morris alleviates that somewhat.


Yeah, I gave Sark and Dakommish a hard time for being overly negative about our off-season signings, because they were were really ticked they didn't try to absorb some other teams' deals in order to load up on more picks.

Granted, that would probably have been the right move IF this franchise was ever in full rebuild mode, but it has never really gone fully into that mode.

So it feels kind of full circle for myself at this point which was I always felt whatever happened with the mercenary deals it was still basically buying time after having limited options to make a big splash in the last free agency.

So, really, the bigger matter is what they didn't do which is buy into a broken KD and a broken, wacky Kyrie.

What they did was not successful, but it really could have been much worse.

Even if this is currently a poorly constructed club, we should also remember Fizdale was disastrous and they probably would be in playoff contention now if Miller had been the coach in training camp.

So, dollars to donuts, getting something for Morris was good and the slate is pretty clean so as much as I've been crapping on the Knicks lately I do think anyone who is going to keep riding and dying on this horse can legitimately feel the possibilities are still pretty wide open compared to almost any other time since the 90s.


I'm just glad you are building up some optimism so there is something to be smashed to bits in the upcoming year.
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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#124 » by dakomish23 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:14 pm

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Yeah, just saw this news and have to say as much as I wanted nothing to do with Kyrie, I feel pretty strongly our current season is still preferable to having him and KD.

I know we suck and a hundred things still need to go right, but this is the right time to have very few future commitments, lots of picks and considerable cap flexibility. If KD & Kyrie had come here, it would have been an epic disaster with very little wiggle room left to work with.

At least Rose has a fairly clean slate to work with. He might bomb, but the Nets are screwed in ways the Knicks are not.

And Kyrie is a mess. The hate him and KD would have gotten as Knicks would have been worse than the Red Wedding, so count our blessings.


I wanted KD healthy. Not so healthy - not so good. I still wish we had gone for what was behind Door #3. Getting a pick return for Morris alleviates that somewhat.


Yeah, I gave Sark and Dakommish a hard time for being overly negative about our off-season signings, because they were were really ticked they didn't try to absorb some other teams' deals in order to load up on more picks.

Granted, that would probably have been the right move IF this franchise was ever in full rebuild mode, but it has never really gone fully into that mode.

So it feels kind of full circle for myself at this point which was I always felt whatever happened with the mercenary deals it was still basically buying time after having limited options to make a big splash in the last free agency.

So, really, the bigger matter is what they didn't do which is buy into a broken KD and a broken, wacky Kyrie.

What they did was not successful, but it really could have been much worse.

Even if this is currently a poorly constructed club, we should also remember Fizdale was disastrous and they probably would be in playoff contention now if Miller had been the coach in training camp.

So, dollars to donuts, getting something for Morris was good and the slate is pretty clean so as much as I've been crapping on the Knicks lately I do think anyone who is going to keep riding and dying on this horse can legitimately feel the possibilities are still pretty wide open compared to almost any other time since the 90s.


I liked the Randle and Morris signings and the 2nd Bullock contract.

If we ever do the absorbing contracts route, I think the overwhelming majority will celebrate it. Didn't most like the Morris deal?

We all appreciate smart long term decision making IMO.
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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#125 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Kyrie/KD was plan A. We got bailed out for sure.
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Post#126 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:05 pm

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I wanted KD healthy. Not so healthy - not so good. I still wish we had gone for what was behind Door #3. Getting a pick return for Morris alleviates that somewhat.


Yeah, I gave Sark and Dakommish a hard time for being overly negative about our off-season signings, because they were were really ticked they didn't try to absorb some other teams' deals in order to load up on more picks.

Granted, that would probably have been the right move IF this franchise was ever in full rebuild mode, but it has never really gone fully into that mode.

So it feels kind of full circle for myself at this point which was I always felt whatever happened with the mercenary deals it was still basically buying time after having limited options to make a big splash in the last free agency.

So, really, the bigger matter is what they didn't do which is buy into a broken KD and a broken, wacky Kyrie.

What they did was not successful, but it really could have been much worse.

Even if this is currently a poorly constructed club, we should also remember Fizdale was disastrous and they probably would be in playoff contention now if Miller had been the coach in training camp.

So, dollars to donuts, getting something for Morris was good and the slate is pretty clean so as much as I've been crapping on the Knicks lately I do think anyone who is going to keep riding and dying on this horse can legitimately feel the possibilities are still pretty wide open compared to almost any other time since the 90s.


I liked the Randle and Morris signings and the 2nd Bullock contract.

If we ever do the absorbing contracts route, I think the overwhelming majority will celebrate it. Didn't most like the Morris deal?

We all appreciate smart long term decision making IMO.


Definitely not an either-or situation. I think we could have had a nice balance
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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#127 » by dakomish23 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:35 pm

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Yeah, I gave Sark and Dakommish a hard time for being overly negative about our off-season signings, because they were were really ticked they didn't try to absorb some other teams' deals in order to load up on more picks.

Granted, that would probably have been the right move IF this franchise was ever in full rebuild mode, but it has never really gone fully into that mode.

So it feels kind of full circle for myself at this point which was I always felt whatever happened with the mercenary deals it was still basically buying time after having limited options to make a big splash in the last free agency.

So, really, the bigger matter is what they didn't do which is buy into a broken KD and a broken, wacky Kyrie.

What they did was not successful, but it really could have been much worse.

Even if this is currently a poorly constructed club, we should also remember Fizdale was disastrous and they probably would be in playoff contention now if Miller had been the coach in training camp.

So, dollars to donuts, getting something for Morris was good and the slate is pretty clean so as much as I've been crapping on the Knicks lately I do think anyone who is going to keep riding and dying on this horse can legitimately feel the possibilities are still pretty wide open compared to almost any other time since the 90s.


I liked the Randle and Morris signings and the 2nd Bullock contract.

If we ever do the absorbing contracts route, I think the overwhelming majority will celebrate it. Didn't most like the Morris deal?

We all appreciate smart long term decision making IMO.


Definitely not an either-or situation. I think we could have had a nice balance


Yep and that was my takeaway. We had so much space that we could make some good moves and still be in a position to get some assets.

Hopefully the lesson was learned.
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Post#128 » by dakomish23 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:48 pm

Nice little break. Time for all the playoff pushes and more tank W’s.

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Post#129 » by dakomish23 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:51 pm

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Post#130 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:46 pm

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I wanted KD healthy. Not so healthy - not so good. I still wish we had gone for what was behind Door #3. Getting a pick return for Morris alleviates that somewhat.


Yeah, I gave Sark and Dakommish a hard time for being overly negative about our off-season signings, because they were were really ticked they didn't try to absorb some other teams' deals in order to load up on more picks.

Granted, that would probably have been the right move IF this franchise was ever in full rebuild mode, but it has never really gone fully into that mode.

So it feels kind of full circle for myself at this point which was I always felt whatever happened with the mercenary deals it was still basically buying time after having limited options to make a big splash in the last free agency.

So, really, the bigger matter is what they didn't do which is buy into a broken KD and a broken, wacky Kyrie.

What they did was not successful, but it really could have been much worse.

Even if this is currently a poorly constructed club, we should also remember Fizdale was disastrous and they probably would be in playoff contention now if Miller had been the coach in training camp.

So, dollars to donuts, getting something for Morris was good and the slate is pretty clean so as much as I've been crapping on the Knicks lately I do think anyone who is going to keep riding and dying on this horse can legitimately feel the possibilities are still pretty wide open compared to almost any other time since the 90s.


I'm just glad you are building up some optimism so there is something to be smashed to bits in the upcoming year.


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Post#133 » by robillionaire » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:20 pm

Let's just hope the Nets fail to tank their way into the lottery.
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Post#135 » by DOT » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:27 pm

So, final count is the Nets paid KD and Kyrie 3.5 million per game combined this year

I'm just saying. We'd never hear the end of it if that happened to us
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Post#136 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:43 pm

My prediction for the New Jersey Nets:

They play a very competitive playoffs in 2020. All the young kids feel good.

Kyrie comes back next year. Team explodes as Kyrie chastises them, says they're selfish. Unfortunately, the Nets can't let Kyrie leave after a year since he's locked into a long term contract. KD goes on his burner account and blasts Kyrie for ruining the team and his legacy.
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Post#138 » by Capn'O » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:15 am

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Post#140 » by Capn'O » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:19 am

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