OT: Cops kill George Floyd

[mpharris36]

Absolutely. Way too many police officers are ill equipped mentally and emotionally for the job. Way too many are juiced up on the power they get by wearing that badge and carrying that gun. This is not to say that every police officer is like that by any means. But way, way, way too many of them are that way. I've said this in the past that there should be much much higher pre-requisites before someone is allowed to become a police officer. It cannot just be because they physically quality and can shoot a gun (which is the bulk of the 'qualifications'). Murderers and some of most dangerous people in existence are physically qualified and kill people easily with a weapon.

"With great power, comes great responsibility" - if you think about it, there is no occupation that citizens can interact with on a daily basis that comes with more power than a police officer. Responsibility should then be equally as great. I've met and known enough police officers to know that a real unnecessarily large percentage of them should not be entrusted to be responsible for what they should be responsible for.

100% agreed and dont' get me wrong there are probably a lot more good cops out there than bad cops, but I believe there needs to be a more stringent screening process and pre-requisites to get the job (more than a high school diploma). The issue you might run into is that its probably a profession that doesn't have a ton of intelligent people jumping at the chance to become a police offer.

You have to wonder if you are intelligent and can either go to school to get a good job or go to a trade school and make a lot more money why would you choose being a police offer as a career?

So I guess that is the conundrum...there is a need for police offers but the pool they are working with they are allowing too many bad ones.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

that is mind-numbing that people could want dumber people. But it does go to show you that there is more to this then getting rid of the bad cops. Seems like the entire system needs a reform.

[HarthorneWingo]

Absolutely. Way too many police officers are ill equipped mentally and emotionally for the job. Way too many are juiced up on the power they get by wearing that badge and carrying that gun. This is not to say that every police officer is like that by any means. But way, way, way too many of them are that way. I've said this in the past that there should be much much higher pre-requisites before someone is allowed to become a police officer. It cannot just be because they physically quality and can shoot a gun (which is the bulk of the 'qualifications'). Murderers and some of most dangerous people in existence are physically qualified and kill people easily with a weapon.

"With great power, comes great responsibility" - if you think about it, there is no occupation that citizens can interact with on a daily basis that comes with more power than a police officer. Responsibility should then be equally as great. I've met and known enough police officers to know that a real unnecessarily large percentage of them should not be entrusted to be responsible for what they should be responsible for.

100% agreed and dont' get me wrong there are probably a lot more good cops out there than bad cops, but I believe there needs to be a more stringent screening process and pre-requisites to get the job (more than a high school diploma). The issue you might run into is that its probably a profession that doesn't have a ton of intelligent people jumping at the chance to become a police offer.

You have to wonder if you are intelligent and can either go to school to get a good job or go to a trade school and make a lot more money why would you choose being a police offer as a career?

So I guess that is the conundrum...there is a need for police offers but the pool they are working with they are allowing too many bad ones.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

Bored? I believe Police Captains out here on Long Island make somewhere in the vicinity $200,000+/yr. Cops here are way overpaid. Here's a fact to consider, approx. 50% of of all Nassau County police calls were for traffic incidents (i.e. accidents, driving through stop signs/red lights, speeding, driving recklessly, etc. Do we really need armed militia to respond to these incidents. We could save tons of money if we reshaped the the police department to meet the needs of the community in which they serve. I'd have a traffic response division comprised of unarmed "Traffic Officers" (they can have a can of MACE, maybe a blackjack) at a much lower salary. If they need backup for a particular incident, specially trained armed officers would respond.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'd get three of four altered vehicles to launch molotov cocktails at the murderer's home and the cops protecting them. I'd get my friends who worked in an auto body shop to attach metal/steel plates to protect me and my other friends in their respective vehicles each containing a launcher. This is not rocket science.

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[Jalen Bluntson]

f target. a riot is the language of the unheard. they better hope a broken window is the only retribution they face from the people

Got a problem with police? Go protest or riot at the local precincts!! WTF does Target have to do with anything? What did the workers at Target do to anyone?

Come on man!

The protesters and rioters are mostly 2 separate factions. Don’t confuse them.

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I didn't confuse them.

[Context]

If anyone's interested- he had a 6 year old girl:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/george-floyd-bigfloyd

[nedleeds]

Yeah I can’t bring myself to give a **** about looting. A life is worth much more than a tv. The looting is just a distraction because you can’t assume that the people looting were the same ones protesting. Blame the police for letting it get this far. They should have brought charges much quicker.

1 person already died during the rioting and looting if all you are doing is counting bodies.

And I’m sure when that person’s killer will be taken into custody instead of being allowed to be free like the officer that killed George Floyd.

Actually they won't. It was a small business owner shooting a looter. Defending ruining random residents lives and life's work because of what that cop did is terrible.

This is the same scene as always, these businesses won't come back, the area being burned isn't where this cop lives, or even where Floyd was murdered. Pull a map up.

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It's just local businesses. No sympathy for all these idiots burning their own neighborhood.

[Garbagelo]

The state is losing control

Won't be long before martial law

[Synciere]

It was such a horrible day that the African American man in NYC who was accused by a woman of threatening her life hardly gets a mention, because he was not arrested and didn't get murdered. What a perverse world.

As an African American there are times during debate or altercation with Caucasian’s where I recognize they don’t understand their privilege and that their cognitive dissonance doesn’t allow for them to recognize the impact of their actions on society as a whole.

This woman clearly understood the ramifications of this situation, tried to escalate it, and then called the police. She KNEW what the consequence could be and still chose to put that man’s life in danger. I’ve never put my hands on a woman, but I saw that and wanted to literally strangle her. That’s a feeling I’ve never had before. The utter lack of compassion for a black man’s life was beyond disgusting, and it was so blatantly intentional.

[HarthorneWingo]

The state is losing control

Won't be long before martial law

I just saw the press conference with the U.S. Attorney in Minneapolis and I believe the spokesperson from the DA's officer (or the AG's office, I'm not sure). But the press conference got delayed once and then again and then they finally came out with this bullchit about "we need to take our time and look over all the evidence so that we don't rush to judgment." I'm yelling at the TV like a lunatic. This is an open and shut case. If anyone of us had done that to another, we be charged with murder that same night. If a black officer had done that to a white man, what do you think the result would've been? Please. If was the head of the most profitable drug gangs in Minneapolis, Detroit, or Chicago, I'd call a meeting.

[HarthorneWingo]

It was such a horrible day that the African American man in NYC who was accused by a woman of threatening her life hardly gets a mention, because he was not arrested and didn't get murdered. What a perverse world.

As an African American there are times during debate or altercation with Caucasian’s where I recognize they don’t understand their privilege and that their cognitive dissonance doesn’t allow for them to recognize the impact of their actions on society as a whole.

This woman clearly understood the ramifications of this situation, tried to escalate it, and then called the police. She KNEW what the consequence could be and still chose to put that man’s life in danger. I’ve never put my hands on a woman, but I saw that and wanted to literally strangle her. That’s a feeling I’ve never had before. The utter lack of compassion for a black man’s life was beyond disgusting, and it was so blatantly intentional.

Absolutely, and the statistics back that up. I will just add that white police will fck up white people too if they don't suck their dicks properly. It's a big power trip for them. Also, while I was in Philly representing mostly black victims of police abuse, many of them have told me that the black officers are worse to them than the white ones. They claimed that the black officers are out to prove to the white ones that they can be trusted so that they can get the backup they need when requested. But that's true with the white officers too. If you call out your brother or sister officer for lying in a report or physically abusing a restrained prisoner, you'll never get back-up.

[newyorker4ever]

I just wonder why it's always gotta be a racist thing and not just some piece of shyt cop who takes advantage of his power because he's wearing a badge and now has killed a man because of it. I watch Live PD and Cops and other shows and see the cops do this to people of all races where the cop has his knee on the guys back or chest or neck and the guys telling the cop he can't breath and the cop always says "If you can talk then you can breath" but this time it got took too far by a piece of shyt cop and he should now pay a severe price for it. But why does it automatically have to be that because it was a black man that it has to be because of race? I mean this in no offensive way what so ever so hope nobody takes offense to it but i think it's a logical question.

[Synciere]

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How did Kloby manage to make a statement on this that does not mention the police or murder?

This could be about anything

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Klobuchar has an extensive history with this officer Chauvin. As an AG trying to move into politics, navigating police unions almost certainly meant ignoring cases of abuse without losing the votes of all whites people by going to war with the police by actually holding them accountable or whatever.

ttps://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/28/1948261/-Cop-who-targeted-George-Floyd-had-17-complaints-against-him-but-Klobuchar-still-didn-t-prosecute


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/28/amy-klobuchar-passed-prosecuting-derek-chauvin-min/

[Synciere]

I just wonder why it's always gotta be a racist thing and not just some piece of shyt cop who takes advantage of his power because he's wearing a badge and now has killed a man because of it. I watch Live PD and Cops and other shows and see the cops do this to people of all races where the cop has his knee on the guys back or chest or neck and the guys telling the cop he can't breath and the cop always says "If you can talk then you can breath" but this time it got took too far by a piece of shyt cop and he should now pay a severe price for it. But why does it automatically have to be that because it was a black man that it has to be because of race? I mean this in no offensive way what so ever so hope nobody takes offense to it but i think it's a logical question.

Because when it happens to white people the police go to jail and are prosecuted without video. It doesn’t happen to white people; they can kill seven or eight people in a church and the cops will find compassion enough to take y’all to Burger King. How considerate. Black murders aren’t prosecuted with the same ferocity. Accepting that race plays a major part in these outcomes isn’t up for debate any longer. With 100 years of data, inherently cops know there’s going to be a difference in what happens based on skin color.

[8516knicks]

I just wonder why it's always gotta be a racist thing and not just some piece of shyt cop who takes advantage of his power because he's wearing a badge and now has killed a man because of it. I watch Live PD and Cops and other shows and see the cops do this to people of all races where the cop has his knee on the guys back or chest or neck and the guys telling the cop he can't breath and the cop always says "If you can talk then you can breath" but this time it got took too far by a piece of shyt cop and he should now pay a severe price for it. But why does it automatically have to be that because it was a black man that it has to be because of race? I mean this in no offensive way what so ever so hope nobody takes offense to it but i think it's a logical question.

Because when it happens to white people the police go to jail and are prosecuted without video. It doesn’t happen to white people; they can kill seven or eight people in a church and the cops will find compassion enough to take y’all to Burger King. How considerate. Black murders aren’t prosecuted with the same ferocity. Accepting that race plays a major part in these outcomes isn’t up for debate any longer. With 100 years of data, inherently cops know there’s going to be a difference in what happens based on skin color.

You're right it's not always a racist thing. Sometimes it's a powermad cop regardless of race. Sometimes its a confluence of bad mistakes on a number of people's parts adding up to tragedy. But the problem is it NEVER SEEMS TO BE TAKEN AS A WHITE/ASIAN/LATINO COP killing a BLACK guy. What are the ODDS of that? Sometimes, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it might just be a f*cking DUCK!

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[Fat Kat]

100% agreed and dont' get me wrong there are probably a lot more good cops out there than bad cops, but I believe there needs to be a more stringent screening process and pre-requisites to get the job (more than a high school diploma). The issue you might run into is that its probably a profession that doesn't have a ton of intelligent people jumping at the chance to become a police offer.

You have to wonder if you are intelligent and can either go to school to get a good job or go to a trade school and make a lot more money why would you choose being a police offer as a career?

So I guess that is the conundrum...there is a need for police offers but the pool they are working with they are allowing too many bad ones.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

that is mind-numbing that people could want dumber people. But it does go to show you that there is more to this then getting rid of the bad cops. Seems like the entire system needs a reform.

They’re easily controlled and manipulated.

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[HarthorneWingo]

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A cop did that? I knew they manufactured evidence, testa-lie on the witness stand, and murder civilians but start a riot? No, this is a new one. He should be held criminally responsible for all of this carnage.

[HarthorneWingo]

Burn that motherfcker DOWN!