Build a Franchise (Season 4) Draft edition. The Celtics have been SKIPPED. Houston is on the clock until 12AM

[Capn'O]

thats it!!!! i am no longer drafting Blank...Rosado sounds like a winner you sold me Cap

Rosado's delicate, textbook form on his jumper brings a tear to my eye.

Who you got me signing Cap? Lowry or Wall?

I was gonna ask you that very question in our PM chain last night. I know who I would sign.

[Smash3]

This thread was supposed to be fun, y'all derailing the **** out of it

[mpharris36]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

you know that isn't the point. One of the most important pieces of BAF is cap management. But I shouldn't have to literally sit in front of my computer even during my time slot even if I'm ready to pick to ensure I won't go over the cap. I could literally have to wait 6 hours potentially if people keep denying wanting to move up and pick. I don't think that is fair.

What seems simple is that your draft slot is tied with a salary. If you miss that pick, whenever you make it the player goes into that draft slot salary. Why would anyone have any issues with that? That seems like the easiest solution.

It's really not that big of a deal especially considering we are talking about high lotto picks. Guys never miss high picks. As you move down the draft the difference becomes like a buck. No rule change necessary for this imo

you do agree that this draft is very different from other drafts. There could be anyone picked in the top this year. There isn't anything set in stone. I know you like guys that I wouldn't even pick in the lottery. So there is simply no consensus.

I guess my point is why would anyone have an issue with an amendment to cover this issue. If the team misses the pick they just pick when they can but are put into there original pick slot when the pick comes in.

Its seems so straight forward I see no reason why instead of 2 or 3 teams having to send bish a list of 2 or 3 guys and say hey wait for one team to pick so I can have my original draft spot.

Just your slot is your slot and that is what you pay. If you don't like your slot you can easily trade it before the draft or during your time slot.

[Smash3]

Rosado's delicate, textbook form on his jumper brings a tear to my eye.

Who you got me signing Cap? Lowry or Wall?

I was gonna ask you that very question in our PM chain last night. I know who I would sign.

Kyle Lowry is a champ, would be perfect with KD/Siakam/Powell

John Wall on the other side might ball out in the sim, giving us a semblance of a big three... Hm....

[mpharris36]

Here's how to play it.

Player A skips their pick. You are Player B and you want to keep your slot.

You send a PM to Bish.



And Big Papa Bish takes care of you. If Player C picks then your pick comes right after it. And so on. You don't need to worry about it anymore. Your pick is in at your slot.

You could also pick second at the higher slot. I don't see anything but benefit if you play it correctly.

but your still not solving the issue. The team above me might have completely different needs then the team below me. At that point why even have draft slots then? Sometimes you don't have 3 or 4 guys you want at that spot you have only 1 and then a trade out option. My point is no team should be held hostage because a team is sitting on there pick.

I don't see why the solution of if you miss your pick you still have to pick in that spot with that $ slot. Why would anyone have an issue with that amendment. The team missing there pick is the only one penalized which should be the case.

Everything else seems like extra nonsense because a team could sit on there pick and now I would have to take into consideration who is behind me who has totally different needs

Player C should get their priorities straight and go BPA.

In seriousness, they could also pick differently in a way that benefits you. That's always the thing about not being Player A in a draft. But YOU, Player B, still get the right of first refusal if Player A balks.

I simply just disagree. You are promoting player A to sit on the pick to benefit his salary (yes he may miss out on a player but maybe he has multiple players he is ok with) he shouldn't get to run the draft for the next 3 teams.

I still haven't seen one person suggest why just making them spend where they are slotting to pick is a big deal. If everyone makes there picks on time nothing changes...if someone tries to sit on a pick they get hurt. That is the way it should be and we wouldn't need a long back and forth that can be solved so simple.

[Capn'O]

Who you got me signing Cap? Lowry or Wall?

I was gonna ask you that very question in our PM chain last night. I know who I would sign.

Kyle Lowry is a champ, would be perfect with KD/Siakam/Powell

John Wall on the other side might ball out in the sim, giving us a semblance of a big three... Hm....

Now that I see you're potentially rebuilding the 2019 Raptors with KD in Kawhi's stead you'll have to fight me for Gasol

[Capn'O]

but your still not solving the issue. The team above me might have completely different needs then the team below me. At that point why even have draft slots then? Sometimes you don't have 3 or 4 guys you want at that spot you have only 1 and then a trade out option. My point is no team should be held hostage because a team is sitting on there pick.

I don't see why the solution of if you miss your pick you still have to pick in that spot with that $ slot. Why would anyone have an issue with that amendment. The team missing there pick is the only one penalized which should be the case.

Everything else seems like extra nonsense because a team could sit on there pick and now I would have to take into consideration who is behind me who has totally different needs

Player C should get their priorities straight and go BPA.

In seriousness, they could also pick differently in a way that benefits you. That's always the thing about not being Player A in a draft. But YOU, Player B, still get the right of first refusal if Player A balks.

I simply just disagree. You are promoting player A to sit on the pick to benefit his salary (yes he may miss out on a player but maybe he has multiple players he is ok with) he shouldn't get to run the draft for the next 3 teams.

I still haven't seen one person suggest why just making them spend where they are slotting to pick is a big deal. If everyone makes there picks on time nothing changes...if someone tries to sit on a pick they get hurt. That is the way it should be and we wouldn't need a long back and forth that can be solved so simple.

Then Player A is an idiot and should have traded down to receive another asset.

[mpharris36]

If somebody misses a pick unintentionallly cause something came up in their lives... then I think the rule isn't much of a problem. When it comes to blatantly missing picks just to pay a cheaper salary then yeah it's an issue. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet which is why we never had this problem.. but of course Hoffa may want to break the tradition for attention.

unfortunately theres no way to tell...and we have some clever gms here- look, this is what goes on in the real world of competition-
loopholes, work arounds etc...but we can fix this...

its such a an easy solution to fix and I would bet not one GM would have an issue with implementing that small change. We can then go back to wondering who "blank" is . I had so much more fun doing that then this back and forth which seems so easy to fix.

You draft slot is tied with that salary. Everyone knows and plans accordingly this is what everyone has prepped for months and I should be able to make my pick during my slot not worried about what the team behind me is going to do.

[3toheadmelo]

If somebody misses a pick unintentionallly cause something came up in their lives... then I think the rule isn't much of a problem. When it comes to blatantly missing picks just to pay a cheaper salary then yeah it's an issue. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet which is why we never had this problem.. but of course Hoffa may want to break the tradition for attention.

unfortunately theres no way to tell...and we have some clever gms here- look, this is what goes on in the real world of competition-
loopholes, work arounds etc...but we can fix this...

I’m saying this wasn’t an issue until hoffa got involved... just like every other problem

[mpharris36]

Player C should get their priorities straight and go BPA.

In seriousness, they could also pick differently in a way that benefits you. That's always the thing about not being Player A in a draft. But YOU, Player B, still get the right of first refusal if Player A balks.

I simply just disagree. You are promoting player A to sit on the pick to benefit his salary (yes he may miss out on a player but maybe he has multiple players he is ok with) he shouldn't get to run the draft for the next 3 teams.

I still haven't seen one person suggest why just making them spend where they are slotting to pick is a big deal. If everyone makes there picks on time nothing changes...if someone tries to sit on a pick they get hurt. That is the way it should be and we wouldn't need a long back and forth that can be solved so simple.

Then Player A is an idiot and should have traded down to receive another asset.

correct so Player B and C shouldn't have to wait on players A being an idiot playing games especially if its player B draft slot time. My draft slot should be for me to decide who I want and if I need to trade it. Not who I want and also potentially juggling additional $$$ when many teams plan for there picks with there draft slot.

[Context]

If somebody misses a pick unintentionallly cause something came up in their lives... then I think the rule isn't much of a problem. When it comes to blatantly missing picks just to pay a cheaper salary then yeah it's an issue. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet which is why we never had this problem.. but of course Hoffa may want to break the tradition for attention.

unfortunately theres no way to tell...and we have some clever gms here- look, this is what goes on in the real world of competition-
loopholes, work arounds etc...but we can fix this...

its such a an easy solution to fix and I would bet not one GM would have an issue with implementing that small change. We can then go back to wondering who "blank" is . I had so much more fun doing that then this back and forth which seems so easy to fix.

You draft slot is tied with that salary. Everyone knows and plans accordingly this is what everyone has prepped for and I should be able to make my pick during my slot not worried about what the team behind me is going to do.

bro, we all agree--stop worrying yourself...you wont be stuck for 10 hours at the computer

now lets get back to who "blank" is please

[mpharris36]

unfortunately theres no way to tell...and we have some clever gms here- look, this is what goes on in the real world of competition-
loopholes, work arounds etc...but we can fix this...

its such a an easy solution to fix and I would bet not one GM would have an issue with implementing that small change. We can then go back to wondering who "blank" is . I had so much more fun doing that then this back and forth which seems so easy to fix.

You draft slot is tied with that salary. Everyone knows and plans accordingly this is what everyone has prepped for and I should be able to make my pick during my slot not worried about what the team behind me is going to do.

bro, we all agree--stop worrying yourself...you wont be stuck for 10 hours at the computer

now lets get back to who "blank" is please

sorry didn't mean to take away your thunder you have the #1 pick. Now go get the guy that is going to yam it on Luka

[2010]

Player C should get their priorities straight and go BPA.

In seriousness, they could also pick differently in a way that benefits you. That's always the thing about not being Player A in a draft. But YOU, Player B, still get the right of first refusal if Player A balks.

I simply just disagree. You are promoting player A to sit on the pick to benefit his salary (yes he may miss out on a player but maybe he has multiple players he is ok with) he shouldn't get to run the draft for the next 3 teams.

I still haven't seen one person suggest why just making them spend where they are slotting to pick is a big deal. If everyone makes there picks on time nothing changes...if someone tries to sit on a pick they get hurt. That is the way it should be and we wouldn't need a long back and forth that can be solved so simple.

Then Player A is an idiot and should have traded down to receive another asset.

What if no one wanted to give another asset cuz they know by simply not giving one up, it increases the odds "GM A" may just let the slot skip to save on the cap hit. In that case "GM B" may not have the cap space to take advantage of the move up in slot. So "GM C" keeps the asset, still nets their preferred player cuz they can afford the cap hit, and only "GM B" gets screwed if he wanted the player that "GM C" jumped ahead of him for.

This is all avoided if slots follow the team originally tied to them in instances of being skipped.

[Context]

its such a an easy solution to fix and I would bet not one GM would have an issue with implementing that small change. We can then go back to wondering who "blank" is . I had so much more fun doing that then this back and forth which seems so easy to fix.

You draft slot is tied with that salary. Everyone knows and plans accordingly this is what everyone has prepped for and I should be able to make my pick during my slot not worried about what the team behind me is going to do.

bro, we all agree--stop worrying yourself...you wont be stuck for 10 hours at the computer

now lets get back to who "blank" is please

sorry didn't mean to take away your thunder you have the #1 pick. Now go get the guy that is going to yam it on Luka

no need to apologize...but trust me- I wouldnt wish that slot pain on anyone we got you- we will vote it in...
as far as "blank" yep, you remembered- he gonna bang one on lukas head!
hi KOC

[Smash3]

He is going number one no doubt:

[mpharris36]

I simply just disagree. You are promoting player A to sit on the pick to benefit his salary (yes he may miss out on a player but maybe he has multiple players he is ok with) he shouldn't get to run the draft for the next 3 teams.

I still haven't seen one person suggest why just making them spend where they are slotting to pick is a big deal. If everyone makes there picks on time nothing changes...if someone tries to sit on a pick they get hurt. That is the way it should be and we wouldn't need a long back and forth that can be solved so simple.

Then Player A is an idiot and should have traded down to receive another asset.

What if no one wanted to give another asset cuz they know by simply not giving one up, it increases the odds "GM A" may just let the slot skip to save on the cap hit. In that case "GM B" may not have the cap space to take advantage of the move up in slot. So "GM C" keeps the asset, still nets their preferred player cuz they can afford the cap hit, and only "GM B" gets screwed if he wanted the player that "GM C" jumped ahead of him for.

This is all avoided if slots follow the team originally tied to them in instances of being skipped.

[DOT]

Just pick your damn players in your time slot

Ain't that big a deal.

[NewEra]

Right now name drops are like bad words lol. Wonder who’s gonna get hit with the first tech

[Context]

If somebody misses a pick unintentionallly cause something came up in their lives... then I think the rule isn't much of a problem. When it comes to blatantly missing picks just to pay a cheaper salary then yeah it's an issue. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet which is why we never had this problem.. but of course Hoffa may want to break the tradition for attention.

unfortunately theres no way to tell...and we have some clever gms here- look, this is what goes on in the real world of competition-
loopholes, work arounds etc...but we can fix this...

I’m saying this wasn’t an issue until hoffa got involved... just like every other problem

honestly...at this point because everyone is on it- i am certain bish will change the rule and well be good...

[Capn'O]

I simply just disagree. You are promoting player A to sit on the pick to benefit his salary (yes he may miss out on a player but maybe he has multiple players he is ok with) he shouldn't get to run the draft for the next 3 teams.

I still haven't seen one person suggest why just making them spend where they are slotting to pick is a big deal. If everyone makes there picks on time nothing changes...if someone tries to sit on a pick they get hurt. That is the way it should be and we wouldn't need a long back and forth that can be solved so simple.

Then Player A is an idiot and should have traded down to receive another asset.

What if no one wanted to give another asset cuz they know by simply not giving one up, it increases the odds "GM A" may just let the slot skip to save on the cap hit. In that case "GM B" may not have the cap space to take advantage of the move up in slot. So "GM C" keeps the asset, still nets their preferred player cuz they can afford the cap hit, and only "GM B" gets screwed if he wanted the player that "GM C" jumped ahead of him for.

This is all avoided if slots follow the team originally tied to them in instances of being skipped.

If none of the other players behind Player A want to move up then they will all submit their ranked choice, pass, and Player A gets stuck with the mock player. There's no incentive to Player A doing that.