2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

[cgf]

New mock by DX. Has us getting Cade

Spoiler:

PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. NYK Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.1
2. CLE Jalen Green G League Ignite 6-5 SG 18.7
3. DET B.J. Boston Kentucky 6-7 SG 18.9
4. CHA Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.4
5. CHI Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.2
6. GSW (via MIN) Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
7. ATL Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.7
8. SAC Scottie Barnes Florida State 6-9 SF/PF 19.3
9. SAS Jonathan Kuminga G League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.1
10. WAS Caleb Love North Carolina 6-4 PG/SG 19.1
11. ORL Josh Christopher Arizona State 6-5 SG 18.9
12. PHX Juhann Begarin Paris Basket 6-6 SG 18.2
13. MEM Daishen Nix G League Ignite 6-5 PG 18.7
14. NOP Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.7
15. IND Terrence Clarke Kentucky 6-7 SG/SF 19.2
16. OKC Greg Brown Texas 6-9 PF 19.2
17. HOU (via POR) James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.1
18. UTA Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.4
19. OKC (via HOU) David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.7
20. TOR Josh Primo Alabama 6-6 SG 17.9
21. BKN Earl Timberlake Miami 6-6 SF 20.0
22. HOU (via MIA) Day'Ron Sharpe North Carolina 6-11 C 19.0
23. PHI Keyontae Johnson Florida 6-5 SF 20.5
24. BOS DJ Steward Duke 6-2 PG 19.1
25. OKC (via GSW) Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 18.8
26. NYK (via DAL) Roko Prkacin Cibona Zagreb 6-9 PF 17.9
27. DEN Jared Butler Baylor 6-3 PG/SG 20.2
28. MIL Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 20.7
29. LAC Moussa Cisse Memphis 6-10 C 18.2
30. LAL Ariel Hukporti Nevezis 7-0 C 18.6
31. PHI (via NYK) Jaden Springer Tennessee 6-4 PG/SG 18.1
32. NOP (via CLE) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.1
33. NYK (via DET) Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.4
34. NYK (via CHA) Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 19.1
35. CHI Jeremiah Robinson-Earl Villanova 6-9 PF 20.0
36. MIN Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.7
37. BKN (via ATL) Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 20.5
38. SAC Romeo Weems DePaul 6-7 SF 19.4
39. SAS Terrence Shannon Texas Tech 6-6 SG 20.3
40. NOP (via WAS) Rokas Jokubaitis Zalgiris 6-5 PG 20.0
41. ORL Mario Nakic Oostende 6-8 SF 19.4
42. BKN (via PHX) Aaron Henry Michigan State 6-6 SG 21.2
43. SAC (via MEM) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.2
44. NOP Amar Sylla Oostende 6-9 PF/C 19.1
45. IND Filip Petrusev Mega Soccerbet 7-0 PF/C 20.6
46. OKC DJ Carton Marquette 6-2 PG 20.3
47. MEM (via POR) Marcus Garrett Kansas 6-5 PG 22.0
48. IND (via UTA) Jason Preston Ohio 6-4 PG 21.2
49. HOU Trayce Jackson-Davis Indiana 6-9 PF/C 20.7
50. DET (via TOR) Carlos Alocen Real Madrid 6-5 PG 19.8
51. CHA (via BKN) Luka Garza Iowa 6-11 C 21.9
52. ATL (via MIA) Trendon Watford LSU 6-9 PF 20.0
53. PHI Isaiah Todd G League Ignite 6-10 PF 19.1
54. BOS Feron Hunt SMU 6-8 PF 21.3
55. UTA (via GSW) Taevion Kinsey Marshall 6-5 SG 20.7
56. DAL Makur Maker Howard 6-11 PF/C 20.0
57. OKC (via DEN) Marcus Zegarowski Creighton 6-2 PG 22.3
58. IND (via MIL) Will Richardson Oregon 6-5 PG 21.2
59. CHA (via LAC) John Petty Alabama 6-5 SG/SF 21.9
60. DET (via LAL) Chris Smith UCLA 6-9 SF/PF 20.9

How is the secon Knicks pick 26 from Dallas? What did they do that makes them a top 5 team in the league this offseason? Doncic is great, but he isn’t nearly that great.

They did a nice job of picking up 3&D guys / bench shooters & Luka will be an MVP candidate this season. 26 seems low, but it wouldn't be exactly be shocking if that pick ends up 20 or later.

[WargamesX]

New mock by DX. Has us getting Cade

Spoiler:

PICK PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT POS. AGE
1. NYK Cade Cunningham Oklahoma State 6-8 PG 19.1
2. CLE Jalen Green G League Ignite 6-5 SG 18.7
3. DET B.J. Boston Kentucky 6-7 SG 18.9
4. CHA Evan Mobley USC 7-0 C 19.4
5. CHI Ziaire Williams Stanford 6-8 SG/SF 19.2
6. GSW (via MIN) Jalen Johnson Duke 6-9 SF/PF 18.9
7. ATL Keon Johnson Tennessee 6-5 SG 18.7
8. SAC Scottie Barnes Florida State 6-9 SF/PF 19.3
9. SAS Jonathan Kuminga G League Ignite 6-8 SF/PF 18.1
10. WAS Caleb Love North Carolina 6-4 PG/SG 19.1
11. ORL Josh Christopher Arizona State 6-5 SG 18.9
12. PHX Juhann Begarin Paris Basket 6-6 SG 18.2
13. MEM Daishen Nix G League Ignite 6-5 PG 18.7
14. NOP Usman Garuba Real Madrid 6-8 PF 18.7
15. IND Terrence Clarke Kentucky 6-7 SG/SF 19.2
16. OKC Greg Brown Texas 6-9 PF 19.2
17. HOU (via POR) James Bouknight Connecticut 6-5 SG 20.1
18. UTA Jalen Suggs Gonzaga 6-4 PG/SG 19.4
19. OKC (via HOU) David Johnson Louisville 6-5 PG 19.7
20. TOR Josh Primo Alabama 6-6 SG 17.9
21. BKN Earl Timberlake Miami 6-6 SF 20.0
22. HOU (via MIA) Day'Ron Sharpe North Carolina 6-11 C 19.0
23. PHI Keyontae Johnson Florida 6-5 SF 20.5
24. BOS DJ Steward Duke 6-2 PG 19.1
25. OKC (via GSW) Isaiah Jackson Kentucky 6-11 PF/C 18.8
26. NYK (via DAL) Roko Prkacin Cibona Zagreb 6-9 PF 17.9
27. DEN Jared Butler Baylor 6-3 PG/SG 20.2
28. MIL Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 SG/SF 20.7
29. LAC Moussa Cisse Memphis 6-10 C 18.2
30. LAL Ariel Hukporti Nevezis 7-0 C 18.6
31. PHI (via NYK) Jaden Springer Tennessee 6-4 PG/SG 18.1
32. NOP (via CLE) Cam Thomas LSU 6-4 SG 19.1
33. NYK (via DET) Moses Moody Arkansas 6-6 SG 18.4
34. NYK (via CHA) Wendell Moore Duke 6-6 SF 19.1
35. CHI Jeremiah Robinson-Earl Villanova 6-9 PF 20.0
36. MIN Corey Kispert Gonzaga 6-7 SF 21.7
37. BKN (via ATL) Matthew Hurt Duke 6-9 PF 20.5
38. SAC Romeo Weems DePaul 6-7 SF 19.4
39. SAS Terrence Shannon Texas Tech 6-6 SG 20.3
40. NOP (via WAS) Rokas Jokubaitis Zalgiris 6-5 PG 20.0
41. ORL Mario Nakic Oostende 6-8 SF 19.4
42. BKN (via PHX) Aaron Henry Michigan State 6-6 SG 21.2
43. SAC (via MEM) Franz Wagner Michigan 6-9 SF 19.2
44. NOP Amar Sylla Oostende 6-9 PF/C 19.1
45. IND Filip Petrusev Mega Soccerbet 7-0 PF/C 20.6
46. OKC DJ Carton Marquette 6-2 PG 20.3
47. MEM (via POR) Marcus Garrett Kansas 6-5 PG 22.0
48. IND (via UTA) Jason Preston Ohio 6-4 PG 21.2
49. HOU Trayce Jackson-Davis Indiana 6-9 PF/C 20.7
50. DET (via TOR) Carlos Alocen Real Madrid 6-5 PG 19.8
51. CHA (via BKN) Luka Garza Iowa 6-11 C 21.9
52. ATL (via MIA) Trendon Watford LSU 6-9 PF 20.0
53. PHI Isaiah Todd G League Ignite 6-10 PF 19.1
54. BOS Feron Hunt SMU 6-8 PF 21.3
55. UTA (via GSW) Taevion Kinsey Marshall 6-5 SG 20.7
56. DAL Makur Maker Howard 6-11 PF/C 20.0
57. OKC (via DEN) Marcus Zegarowski Creighton 6-2 PG 22.3
58. IND (via MIL) Will Richardson Oregon 6-5 PG 21.2
59. CHA (via LAC) John Petty Alabama 6-5 SG/SF 21.9
60. DET (via LAL) Chris Smith UCLA 6-9 SF/PF 20.9

How is the secon Knicks pick 26 from Dallas? What did they do that makes them a top 5 team in the league this offseason? Doncic is great, but he isn’t nearly that great.

They did a nice job of picking up 3&D guys / bench shooters & Luka will be an MVP candidate this season. 26 seems low, but it wouldn't be exactly be shocking if that pick ends up 20 or later.

I still think they fell behind the additions other teams made. They are good, but not Western Conference Good. Not when even the teams that were behind them in the standing all added significant talent this year.

They were trying to add Gallo for a reason. Also they lost depth and are replacing it with Rookies which is also always a recipe for a short term fall off. Long term it was a good move, but I think they are going to struggle.

[Spree2Houston]

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[cgf]

How is the secon Knicks pick 26 from Dallas? What did they do that makes them a top 5 team in the league this offseason? Doncic is great, but he isn’t nearly that great.

They did a nice job of picking up 3&D guys / bench shooters & Luka will be an MVP candidate this season. 26 seems low, but it wouldn't be exactly be shocking if that pick ends up 20 or later.

I still think they fell behind the additions other teams made. They are good, but not Western Conference Good. Not when even the teams that were behind them in the standing all added significant talent this year.

They were trying to add Gallo for a reason. Also they lost depth and are replacing it with Rookies which is also always a recipe for a short term fall off. Long term it was a good move, but I think they are going to struggle.

I certainly agree that they won't be WCF good & it's tough to bank on rookies making too much of an impact this season...though I won't be shocked if Terry is cooking for them off the bench in the playoffs...but I do think that another step from Luka will make a big difference and I really like the Josh Richardson addition for them. So I'm expecting that pick to be around 20, and will be pleasantly surprised if it's higher than that.

[ibraheim718]

Worst record guarantees us into the Top 4. We'll have a chance at Cade, Boston, Mobley, and Green.

I don’t really want Mobley. I feel like he’s overrated imo. How big of an upgrade is he over Mitch? I think it’s pretty minimal

He reminds me of Brandon Bass. I'll duck now. Haha.. he's out of the picture add johnson instead.

[ibraheim718]

I'm not gonna focus on the names that are gonna be continuously regurgitated. So I'll start with this guy:

Josh Giddey - Australia 6'8" PG w/ size and vision

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I'm watching this game tonight. Giddey comes off the bench here. I don't think he played on the U19 team last year. I couldn't find him on the roster.

[HerSports85]

Can't wait for this draft. And lol @ our Dallas pick being 26. I think it's in the top 15.

[EMG518]

No shot that pick is top 15 unfortunately. Realistically in the low to mid 20s.

[robillionaire]

No shot that pick is top 15 unfortunately. Realistically in the low to mid 20s.

agreed. 20-25 is likely if not worse

[smw6230]

No shot that pick is top 15 unfortunately. Realistically in the low to mid 20s.

agreed. 20-25 is likely if not worse

That's still potentially a heck of a chit. If NY acquires another high/mid 20s pick through transaction two early 20s picks in this draft MIGHT be enough capital to get someone in the 13-18 range to drop back for multiple selections.

Not to even overthink this but given the wide array of talent at the top of the class in this draft depending on your team needs if you get #1, if you could trade back to 4 and get another pick in the early teens, you could go home and crack open your finest bottle of scotch secure in the knowledge of a job well done!

[knickstape4ever]

How is the secon Knicks pick 26 from Dallas? What did they do that makes them a top 5 team in the league this offseason? Doncic is great, but he isn’t nearly that great.

They did a nice job of picking up 3&D guys / bench shooters & Luka will be an MVP candidate this season. 26 seems low, but it wouldn't be exactly be shocking if that pick ends up 20 or later.

I still think they fell behind the additions other teams made. They are good, but not Western Conference Good. Not when even the teams that were behind them in the standing all added significant talent this year.

They were trying to add Gallo for a reason. Also they lost depth and are replacing it with Rookies which is also always a recipe for a short term fall off. Long term it was a good move, but I think they are going to struggle.

the only notable move they made was trading Curry for Richardson, right? not that big a move compared to the Suns adding CP3, Blazers w/ Covington, Jones

I think the pick will likely end up around the 17-21 range

[robillionaire]

No shot that pick is top 15 unfortunately. Realistically in the low to mid 20s.

agreed. 20-25 is likely if not worse

That's still potentially a heck of a chit. If NY acquires another high/mid 20s pick through transaction two early 20s picks in this draft MIGHT be enough capital to get someone in the 13-18 range to drop back for multiple selections.

Not to even overthink this but given the wide array of talent at the top of the class in this draft depending on your team needs if you get #1, if you could trade back to 4 and get another pick in the early teens, you could go home and crack open your finest bottle of scotch secure in the knowledge of a job well done!

Oh I agree. I'll be happy to have the pick even in the 20s. I'm just glad to have it. Looks like a strong draft. We also have some 2nd rounders.

[knickstape4ever]

tomorrow we get our 1st look at the 2021 draft play college ball

[ibraheim718]

Worst record guarantees us into the Top 4. We'll have a chance at Cade, Boston, Mobley, and Green.

I don’t really want Mobley. I feel like he’s overrated imo. How big of an upgrade is he over Mitch? I think it’s pretty minimal

He reminds me of Brandon Bass. I'll duck now. Haha.. he's out of the picture add johnson instead.

Sorry I mixed up Perry and Mobley. Mobley hasn't played much in the U19 games I've been watching.

If you want to see Cade at his best minus a blown layup on a good move watch the first quarter of this game against Latvia. One caveat is the Latvian U19 wasn't that strong.

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[ibraheim718]

I'm not gonna focus on the names that are gonna be continuously regurgitated. So I'll start with this guy:

Josh Giddey - Australia 6'8" PG w/ size and vision

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

I'm watching this game tonight. Giddey comes off the bench here. I don't think he played on the U19 team last year. I couldn't find him on the roster.

Giddey doesn't play in this game. He's the youngbuck on a veteran Aussie team but the actual game is bonkers and super competitive.

[thebuzzardman]

I just want to stake out the positions early that the lottery gods f*cked the Knicks yet again and that whoever the Knicks pick, they should have picked this other guy.

See you in a year.

[thebuzzardman]

Also, that white Australian guy makes Adam Morrison look like Vince Carter, athleticism wise.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I just want to stake out the positions early that the lottery gods f*cked the Knicks yet again and that whoever the Knicks pick, they should have picked this other guy.

See you in a year.

I'll reserve a seat at this table too. I'm not even gonna watch any college ball this year. My mind is made up!

[WargamesX]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/never-too-early-2021-nba-mock-draft-two-kentucky-freshmen-in-top-10-of-pro-prospect-rankings-for-next-year/amp/

I like this mock cause that Mavs pick is 14

[mpharris36]

anyone have the the time of the games I should be looking out for?

I know Cade plays today at 4pm on ESPN2...anyone else?