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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#121 » by HerSports85 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:34 pm

I remember Macri saying Frank was penciled in as the starter, well it’s looking like a real possibility

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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#122 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:35 pm

Pandemic means players should be more willing to stay right where they are hi FVV Hayward
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#123 » by SARGO127 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:36 pm

What would Lonzos price tag be?
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#124 » by El Poochio » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:36 pm

HerSports85 wrote:I remember Macri saying Frank was penciled in as the starter, well it’s looking like a real possibility

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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#125 » by Polk377 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:36 pm

Knicks doing a great job staying patient and not just jumping to signings just because they can. There are still top players out there and pockets are starting to empty. There are lots of guys that are under valued who can fill out the roster a week from now. Only a few top players.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#126 » by F N 11 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:37 pm

We are some serious fanatics sitting here to see what the teams plans are.

As of right now I say we are doing the following

Testing waters for guys that want to be here
Testing the market for Randle
Waiting to sign someone we like for a 1 year bloated contract.
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Post#127 » by F N 11 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:39 pm

HerSports85 wrote:I remember Macri saying Frank was penciled in as the starter, well it’s looking like a real possibility

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The boy deserve a chance. He never got a real chance to play through his mistakes here but he starts for France and showed out. Damn we sucked at developing him. His defense at the point of attack is crazy and he looks to set up scorers. Should of got the keys after him and Kp led the comeback against Cha. Still got benched for Jack.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#128 » by HerSports85 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:39 pm

Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#129 » by N Y K » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:40 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol

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Post#130 » by F N 11 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:41 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol

Exactly, the goal is to show off the capabilities of our coaching staff to make us relevant. Frank, RJ, and Mitch is going to beast under structure.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#131 » by mpharris36 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:41 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol


the draft is literally like 6 months away when the season starts....that should be the focus
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#132 » by Richard4444 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:42 pm

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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#133 » by HerSports85 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 pm

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HerSports85 wrote:Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol


the draft is literally like 6 months away when the season starts....that should be the focus


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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#134 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol


100% on board with this still. I would rather watch the kids make mistakes and play bad then watch hired vet bums do the same.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#135 » by EricAnderson » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:43 pm

The Knicks have been so bad for so long I can live with another few years as long as we stay patient and build through the draft.

Next year you have Cade Cunningham the year after you have Grififn Jr and Banchero the year after Bates and Webanyama the draft is our only path to those type of players we clearly are not getting franchise players through free agency.

To put a band aid over a bullet wound and overpay for guys who are maybe third or fourth options on a contender to go along with our young guys who are not anywhere close to franchise players and are at best case scenario solid starters is not how you want to go all in on and ruin any flexibility.

Capping out as a lower seeded playoff team does nothing for me.. I’d rather suck and shoot for the moon and fail then suceed at mediocrity.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#136 » by Newyorknick94 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:44 pm

F N 11 wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:I remember Macri saying Frank was penciled in as the starter, well it’s looking like a real possibility

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The boy deserve a chance. He never got a real chance to play through his mistakes here but he starts for France and showed out. Damn we sucked at developing him. His defense at the point of attack is crazy and he looks to set up scorers. Should of got the keys after him and Kp led the comeback against Cha. Still got benched for Jack.

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Post#137 » by F N 11 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:44 pm

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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#138 » by DLTGWH » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:48 pm

K-DOT wrote:
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K-DOT wrote:Never said we were gonna sign anyone with that money

If you want to take on bad contracts for picks, you can do a lot better than 1 pick for 130 million in cap over 3 years. Minimum to take Wall should be 3 firsts

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Good luck with that. Apparently you haven’t been a knicks fan for very long
I feel like you thought this up expecting me to have said we were gonna sign all the max guys, but when I didn't and answered your question of what I'd do by explaining the value of bad contracts you didn't have a reply

Cause otherwise this reply makes no sense.

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Ok I'll bite.

Unless Billy King has been hired by the Wiz, expecting any team to trade 3 FRPs that aren't highly protected without getting a superstar back is what's lunacy. Whats the Wiz's motivation for trading Wall exactly? They stink. They aren't attracting any big time free agents. So what are they doing with their saved $40M? Trade him for another disgruntled overpaid malcontent where you have to give much less to complete.

Imagine Knicks owed Julius Fumble 3/160. How would you feel if another team came calling Rose to give three unprotected FRPs to take on salary. Knicks probably better off sending orange julius home. And trying again the following year when he only has 2/80 left (and other year of rehab/health)

Only teams that actual trade FRPs to clear bad cap/players are teams in expected top 10. IMO 1 Wiz unprotected in 2023 is much more valuable than three protected Jazz picks, for example.
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#139 » by robillionaire » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:48 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Due to current circumstances if there was a year to punt, this is it. No telling if we even have a complete season.

It’s a lot of “why don’t we just play the kids and live with the results” people that’s scared now that we may just play the kids and develop lol


I've always wanted to play the kids and tank.
My issue is that if this is the direction they take, what they did in the draft made absolutely no sense. They drafted older players and gave away the 33rd. A tanking team would have taken projects (maybe avdija and hampton perhaps) and used that 33rd pick instead of bringing in vets like alec burks. I thought they had a good draft if the context was that they were trying to win. If they're trying to tank I'm scratching my head at what they did
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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) IV 

Post#140 » by DOT » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:50 pm

DLTGWH wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
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Good luck with that. Apparently you haven’t been a knicks fan for very long
I feel like you thought this up expecting me to have said we were gonna sign all the max guys, but when I didn't and answered your question of what I'd do by explaining the value of bad contracts you didn't have a reply

Cause otherwise this reply makes no sense.

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Ok I'll bite.

Unless Billy King has been hired by the Wiz, expecting any team to trade 3 FRPs that aren't highly protected without getting a superstar back is what's lunacy. Whats the Wiz's motivation for trading Wall exactly? They stink. They aren't attracting any big time free agents. So what are they doing with their saved $40M? Trade him for another disgruntled overpaid malcontent where you have to give much less to complete.

Imagine Knicks owed Julius Fumble 3/160. How would you feel if another team came calling Rose to give three unprotected FRPs to take on salary. Knicks probably better off sending orange julius home. And trying again the following year when he only has 2/80 left (and other year of rehab/health)

Only teams that actual trade FRPs to clear bad cap/players are teams in expected top 10. IMO 1 Wiz unprotected in 2023 is much more valuable than three protected Jazz picks, for example.
If they wouldn't trade 3 picks to clear him then don't do it

I don't know why you're under the impression we must trade for Wall and take whatever Washington gives us when it's not a good value for us.

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