Julius Randle IS a 'cornerstone' player

[NowWHYcee7]

SMH man we can’t ever just appreciate what we have. Always on some other players dk.

So sad.

[NewKnicks]

I guess you just read w.e narrative you want and u run with it.

Nobody said anything to that extent but its cool

And I said Lebron-lite

It's cool dude. I wasn't talking to you directly in my last post. You did say Lebron lite. I'm only saying that we should probably choose a different player when we're coming up with comparisons. I'm guessing you might agree with that.

I mean I just used LeBron bc they have very similar games and body types. Lebron is obviously a super high flyer but they both facilitate, rebound like a demon, fade-away, post up, shoot the 3 at a high clip -- Randle just been improving across the board.

So much fun to watch. He's not even at his peak yet. I believe he can add more to his game with better players around him.

His defense under Thibs really shows he's up to the challenge against any big.

I agree with you about a lot. I wasn't trying to start anything. Julius is putting up some crazy numbers and has looked incredible. Some of those threes late in the clock last game were amazing. And it looks like his confidence is through the roof right now.

It is possible that we have a star on our hands with Randle. I just want to see him play this way for a few more years before I start putting him in conversations about him being one of the best in the league.

Julius is still so young, and there is no reason to think he can't keep improving either. That is the really scary part. Imagine if he can make the jump next year at the same level he did compared to last year. I'm really excited to see what he can do as he continues to grow.

[3toheadmelo]

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[KnixtapeH20]

SMH man we can’t ever just appreciate what we have. Always on some other players dk.

So sad.

Word. Guessing for most its 10-20+ years of atrocious, laughing stock of the league play.

I do know younger Knicks fans give up on the team faster than some of us die hard who have been thru the most recent 20+ year doldrums. I'm 35 so a lot of yall got years on me but this has been some of the worst management, play, press all around in any sport.

Only comparable franchise would be the Jets. Lol

[bearadonisdna]

randle beasting, earning his contract, im happy i was all over this signing from day 1.
Coming in he was 20ppg pf on good efficiency, you know he coulda like signed somewhere else.
were the knicks the only guys throwing 20mil at him? idk but glad he is performing and it was a worthwhile signing.

[Jalen Bluntson]

No one saw this coming. Melo would even admit that. I liked Julius when we got him....hated him last year. Expected more of the same this year. Low IQ spin cycle was his forte all year.

This season is definitely an eye opener. Could he be making this leap or is it feasting on a bad team? Looks to be making the leap and I am hopeful it is for real because...we usually trade players who become better elsewhere. This is a pleasant surprise. Keep it up and we pick up the option. Good place to be for a change.

We're 14-15 and 15th in SRS (which is point differential adjusted by strength of opponents). We're not a bad team, so how could he be feasting on a bad team? Feasting on a bad team is what he did in LA, New Orleans, and last year what makes this different if that he's playing winning basketball. The question is on whether or not he will continue this level of play - not whether or not his level of play is great. Given that he's got numbers for years now I think he's going to continue to be an impact player and not just a numbers guy.

At 25 Chris Bosh was the best player on a 40-42 team and he's what we see as a third star in the modern era. Randle is that. A clear cornerstone for the future. Even if we don't need him ourselves someone will give up some great assets for him one day.

Plus I had him pegged as this guy pre draft. He had a ton of talent at UK.

I liked him coming out of the draft and I thought he would be a good.to great player one day. Then I saw spin cycle turnover machine last year and was turned off. Glad to see my initial feeling in the guy may have been the correct one but....I wanted his ass gone.

Confusingly fun times for us fans.

[GONYK]

What makes players cornerstones is consistency.

I love Julius this season. He showing he has the ability and mentality to potentially be a cornerstone.

That's really all we know at this time.

We're very fortunate to have another season at comparatively excellent salary to find out more.

[KnixtapeH20]

1 - IQ / Rose
2 -
3 - RJ
4 - Randle
5 - Mitch

I honestly have no idea where Obi fits aside from a backup 4, unless Randle is playing the 5. Obi would pickup six fouls in 3 minutes guarding opposing 5's.

You can't bench Mitch for Obi because you want Randle playing the 4. Mitch is the heart and soul of the defense and he hasn't even scratched the surface yet under Thibs and co. legit coaching.

But we have the foundation in place with at least 3 starters. RJ will be an all-star in the coming years. He has the same temperament as Eli Manning. He was built for NY. He's 20 years old. Kid was brought up around HOFers like Nash.

[Fat Kat]

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I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

Edit: that was from two years ago. I’ll look for a more current one

[cgf]

Why would we do that instead of reaping the benefits of having him at $20M and seeing if he can sustain his level of play?

To get 2 more seasons of control for just 5M more per year...and so avoid having to make a decision on max'ing him until 2024. Especially since there's not going to be much in FA for us to save our money for this summer & 5m won't make or break usin 2022 if we roll our cap space over instead of signing someone like Trent or Horton-Tucker.

I guess I question why Julius would ever accept a marginal pay raise coming off of the season he's having

I was suggesting a 25% raise + a 20% bonus this summer. While not the biggest bump, I'm not sure I'd call it marginal either

[GONYK]

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I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

This is from the beginning of this season? I hope not. I don't think so, going by the jerseys.

It's hard to say, because the player groupings at each level are pretty bad

Tier 3 I guess?

How the hell do you have Dame and Derozan on the same level?

[Fat Kat]

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I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

This is from the beginning of this season? I hope not. I don't think so, going by the jerseys.

It's hard to say, because the player groupings at each level are pretty bad

Tier 3 I guess?

How the hell do you have Dame and Derozan on the same level?

My mistake. This was old, but it’s still bad

[dakomish23]

1 - IQ / Rose
2 -
3 - RJ
4 - Randle
5 - Mitch

I honestly have no idea where Obi fits aside from a backup 4, unless Randle is playing the 5. Obi would pickup six fouls in 3 minutes guarding opposing 5's.

You can't bench Mitch for Obi because you want Randle playing the 4. Mitch is the heart and soul of the defense and he hasn't eveb scratched the surface yet under Thibs and co. legit coaching.

But we have the foundation in place with at least 3 starters. RJ will be an all-star in the coming years. He has the sane temperament as Eli Manning. He was built for NY. He's 20 years old.

If Obi could get his rim protection up, it might be easier

[KnixtapeH20]

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I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

Don't know yet as we've only seen a small sample size and only regular season play but he's defintely trending up and that's great if you're a Knicks fan.

Not so great if u have to guard him

Guessing this is old since Dame is one of the best players in the league

[KnixtapeH20]

1 - IQ / Rose
2 -
3 - RJ
4 - Randle
5 - Mitch

I honestly have no idea where Obi fits aside from a backup 4, unless Randle is playing the 5. Obi would pickup six fouls in 3 minutes guarding opposing 5's.

You can't bench Mitch for Obi because you want Randle playing the 4. Mitch is the heart and soul of the defense and he hasn't eveb scratched the surface yet under Thibs and co. legit coaching.

But we have the foundation in place with at least 3 starters. RJ will be an all-star in the coming years. He has the sane temperament as Eli Manning. He was built for NY. He's 20 years old.

If Obi could get his rim protection up, it might be easier

Its his defensive discipline not so much rim protection.

But again the issue is you have to take Mitch off the floor unless u play Obi at the 3 lol

[3toheadmelo]

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I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

Edit: that was from two years ago. I’ll look for a more current one

Hard to say since it’s old and it’s pretty bad lol. I guess tier 4. If you can find a recent one ill share my thoughts on that

[Fat Kat]

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I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

This is from the beginning of this season? I hope not. I don't think so, going by the jerseys.

It's hard to say, because the player groupings at each level are pretty bad

Tier 3 I guess?

How the hell do you have Dame and Derozan on the same level?

OK. This is his current one

[cgf]

1 - IQ / Rose
2 -
3 - RJ
4 - Randle
5 - Mitch

I honestly have no idea where Obi fits aside from a backup 4, unless Randle is playing the 5. Obi would pickup six fouls in 3 minutes guarding opposing 5's.

You can't bench Mitch for Obi because you want Randle playing the 4. Mitch is the heart and soul of the defense and he hasn't eveb scratched the surface yet under Thibs and co. legit coaching.

But we have the foundation in place with at least 3 starters. RJ will be an all-star in the coming years. He has the sane temperament as Eli Manning. He was built for NY. He's 20 years old.

If Obi could get his rim protection up, it might be easier

Here's to hoping that he & Taj are working together every day to teach Obi that Taj-D

[3toheadmelo]

I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.



Where do we put Randle now?

This is from the beginning of this season? I hope not. I don't think so, going by the jerseys.

It's hard to say, because the player groupings at each level are pretty bad

Tier 3 I guess?

How the hell do you have Dame and Derozan on the same level?

OK. This is his current one

God damn his tiers suck

I guess put him with the one with Tatum since Zion is there. Randle is better than Zion imo.

[dakomish23]

1 - IQ / Rose
2 -
3 - RJ
4 - Randle
5 - Mitch

I honestly have no idea where Obi fits aside from a backup 4, unless Randle is playing the 5. Obi would pickup six fouls in 3 minutes guarding opposing 5's.

You can't bench Mitch for Obi because you want Randle playing the 4. Mitch is the heart and soul of the defense and he hasn't eveb scratched the surface yet under Thibs and co. legit coaching.

But we have the foundation in place with at least 3 starters. RJ will be an all-star in the coming years. He has the sane temperament as Eli Manning. He was built for NY. He's 20 years old.

If Obi could get his rim protection up, it might be easier

Here's to hoping that he & Taj are working together every day to teach Obi that Taj-D

I thought he could defend the rim somewhat in college? Am I making this up?