spree8 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:spree8 wrote:
No I’m not. I’m trying to fact find the actual %’s and weighing the risks of each. This is not black n white or cut n dry as you’re trying to make it. It’s very nuanced. There’s so many variables to consider and it’s difficult when there’s not enough research. If you can’t respect that, then I dunno what to tell you. I asked a question. You reinforced my concerns with your facts about thousands dying from it. It’s a risk, as I said. It may be small, but it’s still something to take into consideration (as are other side effects). The level of anger you and the others demonstrated, instead of coming correct and having a discussion is ridiculous. How you could be so offended by a question and a legitimate concern is beyond me. Cant see how that approach to other people works out for y’all in the real world, but hey, do you.
I will say that you obviously have a closely held fear that this vaccine may do you harm. I will not try and change your mind about that. That said, you also have a responsibility to your community, i.e. the people you come into close contact with on a daily basis. So I have a couple of questions for you:
1. Have you had a serious conversation with you doctor about this issue? What was their medical advice?
2. Do you take any precautions when you go into public, i.e. indoor shopping, eating, movies, concerts, etc.
For sure, mainly because of how quickly it came out and the issues with the J&J vaccine. Plus this doctor I saw on TV named Dr. Hooman Noorchashm talking about the natural immunity vs vaccine topic. There are others too, but I remember him off hand.
My doctor said I should take it, but my girlfriend’s doctor said not to after she was hospitalized for a week from the virus (she had pneumonia and got the plasma because it was so bad).
I know people who’ve been fine after taking the vaccine and others who said they felt like they were dying for a few days. It def scares me especially with the other possible side effects (heart inflammation) and all.
But yes, I know I should be helping to protect others, and I try to stay away from indoor places… when I do things it’s mainly outdoors, beaches, parks, pool, basketball court, etc, but distance from strangers. If I have to go to a public place indoors, I always wear my N95 mask.
I understand that there were some problems with the J&J vaccine (btw, fck the Johnson brothers ... I'm glad I got the Pfizer vaccine to be honest).
So, I have two questions:
1. I don't understand what your girlfriend's COVID-related pneumonia has to do with why HER doctor suggested that you not get vaxxed, when YOUR doctor told you the opposite, i.e. to take the vaccine; and
2. Would you be more inclined to take the vaccine if you could get the Pfizer shots, which are now FDA approved?
I will say that the first 24 hours after each vaccination I felt fine but the next 48 hours after that, I felt like crap ... like I had the flu. Yeah, it sucked but it's better than getting COVID and either dealing with the residual permanent conditions for the rest of your life and/or dying, IMO.
I would ask you to have another conversation with YOUR doctor and tell him what your concerns are. Ask him if the Pfizer vaccine is available to you. If you don't have any underlying physical conditions, like my 91-year-old mother has (she has a blood disorder which compromises her immune system which is further complicated by the fact that she also suffers from "off the charts" rheumatoid arthritis bc the medications for each conflict and therefore have to be balanced out). She got both shots of the Pfizer, felt like crap for a few days, and recovered. She's doing fine now.
EDIT: Zero COVID deaths in Iceland.
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