GT: Celtics Vs Knicks 10/20/21 7:30 PM

Post #121 » by **DOT** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:50 pm

Does anyone else feel like the Celtics should have been better by now?

Like, don't get me wrong, they're still really good and I'd probably rather have Tatum/Brown than Randle/RJ (okay, I would but I'm a homer), and making the ECF 3 times in 4 years is a level of success I'd kill for, but it feels like they wasted a lot of chances to put themselves over the top

I mean, between 2012 and 2020, they averaged 2 first round picks a year (18 firsts in 9 years), and while they didn't use all of them and most were late firsts (only 5 were lottery picks), it feels like they don't have much outside Tatum/Brown in terms of young talent

And that's the issue is, you kind of need to hit on your late firsts to produce quality role players for cheap, and they really haven't done that. I'll give them Robert Williams and Payton Pritchard, and I'm still high on Nesmith, but while that's okay, I feel like they should have more, if that makes sense

I think in terms of top-end young talent, they beat us just due to Tatum alone (and I'm higher on RJ than most), but I feel like our prospect pool is deeper, if that makes sense. Which still puts them in a better situation than us, cause quality > quantity in the NBA, but I think they're headed towards unfilled potential along with the Wolves and Sixers. Which is kinda funny to me, cause if you went back to 2017 and said that in 5 years the Nets would be seen as championship favorites above the Sixers and Celtics, and the Wolves would still be a lottery team, nobody would believe you. Except maybe about the Wolves, but people were really high on KAT/Wiggins/LaVine in 2017, all 21 years old, all scoring over 19 a game

Just funny how life works out, you know?

blueNorange · Post #122 » by **blueNorange** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:51 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Sounds like Jaylen will play

Read on Twitter
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so tatum is their tallest player at 6'8?

randle/obi tandem activate.

stuporman · Post #123 » by **stuporman** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:54 pm

All the excitement for the season building to this point at the first game opening night at home against rival Boston seems like it's ripe for a major letdown. I don't want to predict any doom from one game but the meltdown with fans from a bad looking loss here may leave emotional scars considering the amount of hype people have for the team.

robillionaire · Post #124 » by **robillionaire** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:55 pm

stuporman wrote:All the excitement for the season building to this point at the first game, opening night at home against rival Boston seems like it's ripe for a major letdown. I don't want to predict any doom from one game but the meltdown with fans from a bad looking loss here may leave emotional scars considering the amount of hype people have for the team.

Ok but imagine the level of euphoria if we win

HarthorneWingo · Post #125 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:58 pm

I’m keeping my eye on Kenna’s defense tonight. Schroder is going to toast him.

Post #126 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:58 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Sounds like Jaylen will play

Read on Twitter
?t=HqtcTindd5redTGE9JcRqg&s=19

so tatum is their tallest player at 6'8?

randle/obi tandem activate.

Robert Williams has a 7'6" wingpan and is a good shot blocker, and Grant Williams is a good defender. They lack a 7' guy but have good size overall...pretty much everyone they have are good defenders so it may not be easy on that end.

On the other end, other then Jaylen/Tatum they really have nobody you worry about too much. Smart always seems to kill us though.

blueNorange · Post #127 » by **blueNorange** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:00 pm

what quarter does someone make the post "why isn't grimes/mcbride playing?"

i'll say 2nd quarter.

Post #128 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:03 pm

K-DOT wrote:Does anyone else feel like the Celtics should have been better by now?

Like, don't get me wrong, they're still really good and I'd probably rather have Tatum/Brown than Randle/RJ (okay, I would but I'm a homer), and making the ECF 3 times in 4 years is a level of success I'd kill for, but it feels like they wasted a lot of chances to put themselves over the top

I mean, between 2012 and 2020, they averaged 2 first round picks a year (18 firsts in 9 years), and while they didn't use all of them and most were late firsts (only 5 were lottery picks), it feels like they don't have much outside Tatum/Brown in terms of young talent

And that's the issue is, you kind of need to hit on your late firsts to produce quality role players for cheap, and they really haven't done that. I'll give them Robert Williams and Payton Pritchard, and I'm still high on Nesmith, but while that's okay, I feel like they should have more, if that makes sense

I think in terms of top-end young talent, they beat us just due to Tatum alone (and I'm higher on RJ than most), but I feel like our prospect pool is deeper, if that makes sense. Which still puts them in a better situation than us, cause quality > quantity in the NBA, but I think they're headed towards unfilled potential along with the Wolves and Sixers. Which is kinda funny to me, cause if you went back to 2017 and said that in 5 years the Nets would be seen as championship favorites above the Sixers and Celtics, and the Wolves would still be a lottery team, nobody would believe you. Except maybe about the Wolves, but people were really high on KAT/Wiggins/LaVine in 2017, all 21 years old, all scoring over 19 a game

Just funny how life works out, you know?

Feels like they are always waiting and saving up for that homerun/superstar move but can never pull it off.

blueNorange · Post #129 » by **blueNorange** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:06 pm

oh wait this game is on espn?

ugh so the camera quality will be even more poor than msg's

WajaBawl · Post #130 » by **WajaBawl** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:08 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:I’m keeping my eye on Kenna’s defense tonight. Schroder is going to toast him.

Yeah, if it's straight up a liability then we have a problem.

Guano · Post #131 » by **Guano** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:09 pm

my response to everything i'm asked at work and from my wife for the next week:

"cause Imma an island boi"
:rockon:

Post #132 » by **Jeff Van Gully** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:09 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:Hopefully RJ just sticks corner shooting and less going to rim.

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i like that he is comfortable from other spots now and seems to be trying to stick them on the move. if he can keep that above 35% with increased volume, i'd be VERY pleased.

RJ comes in an improves on his weaknesses season over season. so the threes from other spots, shooting on the move (which may never be his thing), and finishing inside are the obvious offensive areas. and we know he's up to the defensive challenge. this kid is money.

3toheadmelo · Post #133 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:10 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Sounds like Jaylen will play

Read on Twitter
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Jeffrey · Post #134 » by **Jeffrey** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:10 pm

BBALLER4FR wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Melo, word on the streets is these are your boys, is that true?

Watch on YouTube

LORD!!! The confusion with dem Island boyz is real.

Man... is this going to be Knicks RealGM game thread song?! :nonono:

Guano · Post #135 » by **Guano** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:12 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Melo, word on the streets is these are your boys, is that true?

Watch on YouTube

LORD!!! The confusion with dem Island boyz is real.

Man... is this going to be Knicks RealGM game thread song?!

between melo making the opening day gamethread and this f'ing song our season is ruined

Post #136 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:14 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Sounds like Jaylen will play

Read on Twitter
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It makes sense for them to match up with Randle, but I am sure they will use a bunch of small ball lineups too

robillionaire · Post #137 » by **robillionaire** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:14 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Does anyone else feel like the Celtics should have been better by now?

Like, don't get me wrong, they're still really good and I'd probably rather have Tatum/Brown than Randle/RJ (okay, I would but I'm a homer), and making the ECF 3 times in 4 years is a level of success I'd kill for, but it feels like they wasted a lot of chances to put themselves over the top

I mean, between 2012 and 2020, they averaged 2 first round picks a year (18 firsts in 9 years), and while they didn't use all of them and most were late firsts (only 5 were lottery picks), it feels like they don't have much outside Tatum/Brown in terms of young talent

And that's the issue is, you kind of need to hit on your late firsts to produce quality role players for cheap, and they really haven't done that. I'll give them Robert Williams and Payton Pritchard, and I'm still high on Nesmith, but while that's okay, I feel like they should have more, if that makes sense

I think in terms of top-end young talent, they beat us just due to Tatum alone (and I'm higher on RJ than most), but I feel like our prospect pool is deeper, if that makes sense. Which still puts them in a better situation than us, cause quality > quantity in the NBA, but I think they're headed towards unfilled potential along with the Wolves and Sixers. Which is kinda funny to me, cause if you went back to 2017 and said that in 5 years the Nets would be seen as championship favorites above the Sixers and Celtics, and the Wolves would still be a lottery team, nobody would believe you. Except maybe about the Wolves, but people were really high on KAT/Wiggins/LaVine in 2017, all 21 years old, all scoring over 19 a game

Just funny how life works out, you know?

Feels like they are always waiting and saving up for that homerun/superstar move but can never pull it off.

no that's the knicks. the celtics have pulled that off several times in my lifetime and they're just temporarily down the past couple years because kyrie is nuts and they couldn't convince AD to come there and kemba didn't work out

WajaBawl · Post #138 » by **WajaBawl** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:14 pm

Interesting quote from Taj on Mitch's rehab:

Gibson admitted this week Robinson indeed had “a setback’’ in his long road back, but it’s unknown if he broke his foot again. (The Knicks never gave any health updates regarding Robinson since announcing his surgery).

F N 11 · Post #139 » by **F N 11** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:14 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
F N 11 wrote:that jersey clean ah, what year is that?

96-97

The gold logo season, 50th anniversary.

I should of known, I have the road one. Never seen the white its so clean.

3toheadmelo · Post #140 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:17 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Sounds like Jaylen will play

Read on Twitter
?t=HqtcTindd5redTGE9JcRqg&s=19

It makes sense for them to match up with Randle, but I am sure they will use a bunch of small ball lineups too

swipe right on the post :lol:

jokes aside this is great for us. we can hide fournier on grant williams. i want randle on tatum and rj guarding brown