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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#121 » by Zenzibar » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:34 pm

This is the guard we need now.

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#122 » by G_K_F » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:31 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Hes_On_Fire wrote:He really is nothing like Eisley.

He's a very efficient and heady player. I like him a lot.

Super backup pg that the Knicks salivate over cause of stats enhanced by playing on his current team, and the Knicks expecting him to be a savior, can't see the connection?

No? Lol.

Howard Eisley was a mediocre inefficient random journeyman backup PG before he came to NY. I don't think anyone had expectations of him being anything.

This kid shoots 50% from the field as a guard and already plays 25-30 mpg to begin with. He is a major piece for the Mavericks already.

I think he can be a very very good player for a long time. We need that type of efficient player who actually understands the game of basketball instead of low IQ chucking clowns. We haven't had a player with his mindset and skill in a long time.

Nobody thinks Brunson is the savior but he certainly would be a good start towards building something. No question about it for me - I've been all in on Brunson for a couple seasons now.

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#123 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:39 pm

They shoulda traded him when they had the chance.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#124 » by The Lamma » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:01 pm

Capn'O wrote:They shoulda traded him when they had the chance.


With all his money, is Cuban actually cheap? You'd think especially after proving himself in some important playoff games, and with Cuban's deep pockets, it'd be a no brainer to pay Mr Brunson. But, it wouldn't surprise me.

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#125 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:30 pm

Glad I didn't post in this thread before. Would add to my crow pile lol.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#126 » by Knick4Real » Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:31 pm

Is Brunson the PG the KNICKS have needed?

YES!

I didn't even read through the other pages of comments.

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#127 » by Zenzibar » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:57 am

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The Knicks are Jalen Brunson’s team now — and it’s not even close
By Ian O'Connor

January 12, 2023 | 12:42am


The Knicks are Jalen Brunson’s basketball team. That is true today, it was true Wednesday night, and it will be true for the next 3 ¹/₂ years and beyond.

RJ Barrett will be by his side, and Julius Randle will be there for at least part of the journey. But until the Knicks land a megastar — if the Knicks ever land a megastar — Brunson will be the money player in the Garden. He will be the best quarterback in the market, better than the two guys most likely behind center in MetLife Stadium, Daniel Jones and Jimmy G.

Brunson again showed why against the Pacers, making the two plays that mattered most when the walls were crashing down on the Knicks. Two nights after blowing a 17-point lead and wasting a 44-point masterpiece from Brunson, the Knicks were trying their damnedest to make the Milwaukee loss look like a walk in Central Park. They were trying to blow a 25-point lead to an opponent not quite in the Bucks’ league.


Buddy Hield got hot for the visitors, making it a 105-103 game a little more than three minutes to play, forcing a frayed Tom Thibodeau to call a timeout. Out of that huddle, Brunson made a play in the lane and then nailed a 3-pointer from the left corner to regain control. He extended the lead to seven points again with 94 seconds left on a slow-motion floater that reminded again how he never lets the game get too fast.

Things got crazy again in the closing sequences, with a near Brunson turnover and a missed shot in the lane. But Quentin Grimes hit a dagger, and the returning Barrett drained a couple of free throws, and soon enough the Knicks had a 119-113 victory in the books. Oh, and Brunson had another 34 points in the books, too, giving him an average of 33.2 points over the five games he’s played since returning from a hip injury.

“I think my job is to be a great teammate,” Brunson said, “be the best version of myself, help my team win games, and just be a part of something special.”

He’s doing his job. In fact, there’s no way that recent endgame meltdown in Dallas happens if Brunson wasn’t in street clothes.

His four-year, $104 million deal is looking more and more like a steal. Knicks fans haven’t had a point guard in forever, in a city that positively adores point guards, and Brunson has been well worth the wait.

“I feel like I strive to be the best player every time I step on the court,” Brunson said, “first and foremost.”


He is the best player on the Knicks right now, and it isn’t close.

The home team needed him on a fairly significant midseason night. The Knicks and Pacers had each played 41 games, meaning they were starting the second half on opposite sides of the border separating playoff teams from play-in teams. The line is as fine as the one between genius and madness or, in this case, something that is legit and something that is not.

Hey, someone at the Garden should have been enterprising enough to put this on the marquee in the brightest lights:

Knicks & Pacers: See Sixth-Seed Smackdown.

Barrett’s re-entry added an extra layer of importance to the event, and on cue Thibodeau threw the wing and his messed-up finger out there for 41 volatile minutes, leaving Barrett with 27 points on 23 shots, 14 of them misses.


“I just did what I could, man,” he said.

The effort was clearly appreciated. What did the Knicks miss from him while he was out for nearly seven full games?

“Just the all-around play,” Thibodeau said. “The versatility, scoring ability, [getting] downhill, get into the paint, make plays, good size, wing defender.”

Nothing much, in other words.

As it turned out, the Knicks looked whole in the first half with Barrett, who opened the scoring with a 3-pointer 18 seconds into the game, and ultimately helped his team build a 23-point first-half lead. He had 16 at the half, and Brunson had 19, and the Knicks held a 62-41 lead that felt even bigger than that.

Meanwhile, Indiana’s star point guard, Tyrese Haliburton, bobbled a chance to settle a score from last month’s loss to the Knicks in Indy. It’s not often that a studio analyst can inspire the need for vengeance, but MSG’s Wally Szczerbiak was the one who called Haliburton “Mr. Supposed Wannabe Fake All-Star,” which is saying a mouthful.

Haliburton didn’t forget, and it wouldn’t have been surprising if he torched the Knicks with another reminder of why they should have drafted him, and not Obi Toppin, eighth overall in 2020.


But Haliburton hobbled off the floor and down the Garden tunnel late in the third quarter, suffering from a sore knee, opening the door for Brunson to make his own All-Star statement.

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“I think there’s a whole ’nother level that he can go to,” Thibodeau said of his quarterback.

And that’s why the Knicks are Jalen Brunson’s team today, tomorrow, and for a long time to come.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#128 » by KnixtapeH20 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:15 am

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Not giving up Mitch for him if that's the asking the price :wavefinger:

Still stand by my take :nod:
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#129 » by Meat » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:20 am

Now, is it possible to build a contender around Brunson?
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#130 » by F N 11 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:26 am

My post being liked like everybody didn’t prioritize a superstar first.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#131 » by sol537 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:46 am

sol537 wrote:He's way better than what we've had in a long time. I'd definitely take him at a reasonable price. IQ + Burks or thereabouts.


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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#132 » by DowNY » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:06 am

Meat wrote:Now, is it possible to build a contender around Brunson?

Yes
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#133 » by knicks94 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:41 am

I was completely right about the Knicks not needing Brunson.When I first saw him in a Knick uniform I thought he was just as useless as Herb Williams and David Wingate.I was happy when the Knicks let him go to Portland.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#134 » by cgmw » Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:14 am

DowNY wrote:
Meat wrote:Now, is it possible to build a contender around Brunson?

Yes

Here?

Two All Star reserves and RJ Barrett getting paid $100m+ each? Can’t sign anyone better in FA. No money. Only non-lottery FRPs in the cupboard? No picks. Can’t draft anyone better. Playoff 8 seed annual mandate? No playing time. Can’t develop anyone better.

Trade for stars? Who? The East alone has Tatum/Brown, Embiid/Harden/Maxey, Durant/Irving, Mitchell/Garland/Mobley, and Giannis/Middleton/Jrue. Who are we trading for to compete with that?

Scroll back in this thread. I said even if Brunson becomes an All Star, there’s no path to contention. I haven’t heard a single fan, commentator, or Knick employee articulate a single basic framework of any plausible scenario where the Jalen Brunson Knicks compete for a championship. Not one. No matter how optimistic the homer, there’s just no plausible path. Or am I missing something?

Just cheer for our dumb regular season wins. Just pay your money for playoff tickets to see us lose in Round 1, Game 6 if we’re lucky. But title contention? Come on.

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Scenario 1: Brunson gets injured, Knicks miss the playoffs, win the lottery, and draft Wemby.

Scenario 2: RJ is a late bloomer who turns into a Kawhi-level MVP.

Scenario 3: Dolan decides to sell the team. Championship guaranteed within 36 months.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#135 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:13 am

Glad to see my earlier advocating for Brunson and Grimes. Win!

Also taking the big L and eating large crow for dumping on Randle.

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#136 » by duetta » Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:54 am

Cuban has done for the Knicks what Cost Plus Drugs is doing for ordinary Americans dependent on generic pharmaceuticals.

Thank you, Mark Cuban! You're a true humanitarian. Never has a group of fans suffered as much as Knick fans.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#137 » by Fat Kat » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:56 pm

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Post#138 » by RHODEY » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:32 pm

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#139 » by Meat » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:36 pm

DowNY wrote:
Meat wrote:Now, is it possible to build a contender around Brunson?

Yes

fantasy gm it, im not seeing it
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#140 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:43 pm

I thought this was a post game thread. I can't believe how many people didn't see the talent Brunson had.

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