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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#121 » by Polk377 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:41 pm

Fury wrote:I can see Herro for Brunson. Miami wants to get rid of him and Cuban loves the hwhites.

This would make not going after Murray bad.


$20+ mil short there. Salaries have to match with Miami over the cap.
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Post#122 » by Monk1718 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:41 pm

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F N 11 wrote:We thought it was nepotism it’s just CAA running up the bag for Brunson.


:lol:


Either way CAA wins

Exactly. Anybody even remotely associated with Leon is getting a bag Knicks or no Knicks.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#123 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:42 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:its a blessing in disguise if we don't sign Brunson. Honestly there enough sample size if hes actually worth this contract...110 mill??? sheesh




He's worth it, his numbers across the board have been consistent, the playing time wasn't. The red flag would have been efficiency dropping the playoffs with increased usage, instead his numbers increased while the amount of his shots that were assisted decreased. He's a 20ppg scorer waiting to happen.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#124 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:44 pm

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iLLmatic860 wrote:its a blessing in disguise if we don't sign Brunson. Honestly there enough sample size if hes actually worth this contract...110 mill??? sheesh




He's worth it, his numbers across the board have been consistent, the playing time wasn't. The red flag would have been efficiency dropping the playoffs with increased usage, instead his numbers increased while the amount of his shots that were assisted decreased. He's a 20ppg scorer waiting to happen.

and he was playing with a future hall of famer Luka. On or off the court, Lukas presence is there. He sets the tone for that team. I do believe Brunson would work in NY but WITHOUT Randle
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#125 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:45 pm

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Fury wrote:I can see Herro for Brunson. Miami wants to get rid of him and Cuban loves the hwhites.

This would make not going after Murray bad.

Honestly this makes not building thru the draft bad.. Knicks were in the position to give up unprotected first for Murray yet.. the Hawks could cause they have their star player already. We still dont


Knicks probably have been backchanneling for months and rhe 2 that we have been linked to most are:

1. Brunson
2. Donovan Mitchell

While Murray may be a guy they hesitated on giving up the protected picks for Mitchell they probably would.

Mitchell has a 6'10 wingspan and has played /can play the SG position and back up 1 spot.

You can make this back court work with players playing multiple spots.

Again just a stab mainly to see how the back court could work ( and not yet knowing who is staying or going in trades etc)...


Brunson (33)/ Mitchell (10) / IQ or McBride (5)
Mitchell (23)/ RJ (13)/ Grimes (12)
RJ (30)/ Grimes (12)/ Reddish (6)
Randle (28)/Obi (20)
Mitch (30)/ Sims(8)/Randle (5)/Obi (5)
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#126 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:45 pm

Throw a small bag at Payton III.
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Post#127 » by stuporman » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:45 pm

Which is worse?

Pat the rat getting involved so raising the price and the Knicks have to shell out a max contract to Brunson paying $30milper or Pat the rat somehow figuring out how to steal Brunson out from under Rose's nose while offloading Lowry on someone else?
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#128 » by Fury » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:45 pm

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Fury wrote:I can see Herro for Brunson. Miami wants to get rid of him and Cuban loves the hwhites.

This would make not going after Murray bad.


$20+ mil short there. Salaries have to match with Miami over the cap.


You’re right. For some reason I thought Herro signed an extension. Herro + Robinson, maybe.
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Post#129 » by 8516knicks » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:49 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:its a blessing in disguise if we don't sign Brunson. Honestly there enough sample size if hes actually worth this contract...110 mill??? sheesh




He's worth it, his numbers across the board have been consistent, the playing time wasn't. The red flag would have been efficiency dropping the playoffs with increased usage, instead his numbers increased while the amount of his shots that were assisted decreased. He's a 20ppg scorer waiting to happen.

and he was playing with a future hall of famer Luka. On or off the court, Lukas presence is there. He sets the tone for that team. I do believe Brunson would work in NY but WITHOUT Randle


If Luka is a "presence" off the court, maybe we should hire Pat Ewing to sit in the stands every game! :crazy:
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Post#130 » by Snacks » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:49 pm

Ayton
Obi
RJ/Cam
Grimes/Frenchy
Brunson/IQ

add Booker next year:
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Post#131 » by Adelheid » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:50 pm

I am expecting no brunson to knicks.

at least we have cap space
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#132 » by 8516knicks » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:50 pm

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Fury wrote:I can see Herro for Brunson. Miami wants to get rid of him and Cuban loves the hwhites.

This would make not going after Murray bad.

Honestly this makes not building thru the draft bad.. Knicks were in the position to give up unprotected first for Murray yet.. the Hawks could cause they have their star player already. We still dont


Knicks probably have been backchanneling for months and rhe 2 that we have been linked to most are:

1. Brunson
2. Donovan Mitchell

While Murray may be a guy they hesitated on giving up the protected picks for Mitchell they probably would.

Mitchell has a 6'10 wingspan and has played /can play the SG position and back up 1 spot.

You can make this back court work with players playing multiple spots.


Can't see two 6'1" guards as our backcourt (or anyone's outside H.S.)
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#133 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:54 pm

[quote="iLLmatic860"]
and he was playing with a future hall of famer Luka. On or off the court, Lukas presence is there. He sets the tone for that team. I do believe Brunson would work in NY but WITHOUT Randle[/quote]

He was scoring in isolation, he was not playing off of Luka, he was a release valve for the Mavs when they couldn't get anything else. In the playoffs he was scoring 1.07ppp in isolation, for comparison Donovan Mitchell scored 1.13. Brunson was 5th overall in the playoffs for points total in isolation, and 10th in points per game from isolation at 4.4ppg, Mitchell and KD were tied for 9th with 4.5ppg.

You're trying to make a point that doesn't even make sense, he was scoring when Luka was literally out injured, what presence did Luka have then?


He is a legitimate offensive weapon in his own right and with increased touches, usage and opportunity is a lock to be a 20ppg scorer, much like Brogdan and FVV did.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#134 » by F N 11 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:54 pm

There’s a South Park episode on right now making fun of CAA stealing clients lol.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#135 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:54 pm

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DaGawd wrote:Honestly this makes not building thru the draft bad.. Knicks were in the position to give up unprotected first for Murray yet.. the Hawks could cause they have their star player already. We still dont


Knicks probably have been backchanneling for months and rhe 2 that we have been linked to most are:

1. Brunson
2. Donovan Mitchell

While Murray may be a guy they hesitated on giving up the protected picks for Mitchell they probably would.

Mitchell has a 6'10 wingspan and has played /can play the SG position and back up 1 spot.

You can make this back court work with players playing multiple spots.


Can't see two 6'1" guards as our backcourt (or anyone's outside H.S.)


In theory it could be roughly only for 18-20 minutes of the game. Mitch will play back up 1 when Brunson sits and RJ will get some minutes at the 2 when Brunson plays 1.

Ex.
Brunson (33)/ Mitchell (10) / IQ or McBride (5)
Mitchell (23)/ RJ (13)/ Grimes (12)
RJ (30)/ Grimes (12)/ Reddish (6)
Randle (28)/Obi (20)
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#136 » by Appleshampoo » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:54 pm

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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#137 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:55 pm

8516knicks wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


He's worth it, his numbers across the board have been consistent, the playing time wasn't. The red flag would have been efficiency dropping the playoffs with increased usage, instead his numbers increased while the amount of his shots that were assisted decreased. He's a 20ppg scorer waiting to happen.

and he was playing with a future hall of famer Luka. On or off the court, Lukas presence is there. He sets the tone for that team. I do believe Brunson would work in NY but WITHOUT Randle


If Luka is a "presence" off the court, maybe we should hire Pat Ewing to sit in the stands every game! :crazy:

Luka sets the tone in the game and Brunson came off the bench and he got his buckets. Kudos for Brunson playing well without Luka in the playoffs but Brunson also really thrived in Kidds 5 out system, another huge question mark for us.

If we bring back Mitch, will Thibs really run 5 out???? lol
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#138 » by spree8 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:55 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Fury wrote:I can see Herro for Brunson. Miami wants to get rid of him and Cuban loves the hwhites.

This would make not going after Murray bad.

Honestly this makes not building thru the draft bad.. Knicks were in the position to give up unprotected first for Murray yet.. the Hawks could cause they have their star player already. We still dont



I really wonder when this will end. I’ve said a million times thru the last 20+ years that this is the best chance we have, yet every regime fails at it.

It’s really not that hard considering virtually every team in the league has one or more except us lol.

May not be easy, and takes time, but going about it thru FA or trade clearly takes a lot longer and yields far worse results (Marbury, Amare, Melo, Randle).
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#139 » by ophdog » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:56 pm

Please let the heat or mavericks save us from ourselves. Plus if Brunson disses us a really good chance Leon and Wes are gone. Double win
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#140 » by TrueWarrior » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:57 pm

Tyus Jones bout to get 35 mill from us.

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