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Post#121 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 3, 2023 7:39 am

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They’ll be back on this side anyway next losing streak :lol:

This team is still not as good as people make it seem right now. It is fun of course to win some games but the talent level is still not there yet. We need a franchise player. There are going to be 16 playoff teams. We’ll probably have the worst franchise player among them.

Tanking is off the table but this team will be eliminated in the first round and you all should try and remain level headed. It is just the reality that we’re still a Doncic or Embiid away (not even LaVine or other wannabes like him).


Brunson is a Franchise player.
Randle is an all star.
IQ is 6MOY candidate.
Hart is the glue guy.
Mitch is a defensive anchor.
The bench is deep.
RJ is the weakest link which, isn't that bad for a team to have as a problem.

I think we are better than some give us credit for. We don't have a bonafide top tier player. That's where we fall short. We have a blue collar team. '04 Pistons comps are off the mark but, not by much. We are close to contention as we stand. How we improve is the next chapter.

Your overrating them. If you say any of these guys is our franchise player then you’re already accepting playoff failure. 2004 pistons had the Wallaces and our dudes are no match at all. These dudes were legit.
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Post#122 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 12:41 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:This team is still not as good as people make it seem right now. It is fun of course to win some games but the talent level is still not there yet. We need a franchise player. There are going to be 16 playoff teams. We’ll probably have the worst franchise player among them.

Tanking is off the table but this team will be eliminated in the first round and you all should try and remain level headed. It is just the reality that we’re still a Doncic or Embiid away (not even LaVine or other wannabes like him).


Brunson is a Franchise player.
Randle is an all star.
IQ is 6MOY candidate.
Hart is the glue guy.
Mitch is a defensive anchor.
The bench is deep.
RJ is the weakest link which, isn't that bad for a team to have as a problem.

I think we are better than some give us credit for. We don't have a bonafide top tier player. That's where we fall short. We have a blue collar team. '04 Pistons comps are off the mark but, not by much. We are close to contention as we stand. How we improve is the next chapter.

Your overrating them. If you say any of these guys is our franchise player then you’re already accepting playoff failure. 2004 pistons had the Wallaces and our dudes are no match at all. These dudes were legit.


Nonsense. Brunson is a franchise player all day. One of the best PGs in the entire league doesn't rate as a franchise player? You are underrating them. Everything in my post is truth. Maybe read it again. I said the Pistons comps are off but, not by much. Accepting playoff failure? What does that even mean?
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Post#123 » by knicks94 » Fri Mar 3, 2023 12:53 pm

If Mr."I can't stay healthy or get my team out of the second round despite being paired with a superstar every season" is a franchise player than Brunson has to be this year's favorite to win the MVP.
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Post#124 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:01 pm

knicks94 wrote:If Mr."I can't stay healthy or get my team out of the second round despite being paired with a superstar every season" is a franchise player than Brunson has to be this year's favorite to win the MVP.


Brunson is a building block/cornerstone/franchise player all day long. He championship caliber player. He's a winning player and the vibes are immaculate!
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Post#125 » by NoStatsGuy » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:04 pm

They are not a contenter at all. but it honestly is true, we are one guy away. one legit MVP caliber player. That can be someone next year, with a jump in development like randle or brunson or someone that sees what we are doing and decides to come here (maybe still a pipe dream).

and i know people on here exactly know every players ceiling in the whole world, so i dont expect anybody to agree. but like it or not sometimes people are switching up and gain another gear and i feel like randle and brunson are both all star players right now, that are still in the middle or early in their primes.

also, im not rdy to give up on RJ. hes still very young, only 22 years old. i think we can still expect him to improve a lot. once he gets a consisent shot the game will open up so much for him.
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Post#126 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:10 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Brunson is a Franchise player.
Randle is an all star.
IQ is 6MOY candidate.
Hart is the glue guy.
Mitch is a defensive anchor.
The bench is deep.
RJ is the weakest link which, isn't that bad for a team to have as a problem.

I think we are better than some give us credit for. We don't have a bonafide top tier player. That's where we fall short. We have a blue collar team. '04 Pistons comps are off the mark but, not by much. We are close to contention as we stand. How we improve is the next chapter.

Your overrating them. If you say any of these guys is our franchise player then you’re already accepting playoff failure. 2004 pistons had the Wallaces and our dudes are no match at all. These dudes were legit.


Nonsense. Brunson is a franchise player all day. One of the best PGs in the entire league doesn't rate as a franchise player? You are underrating them. Everything in my post is truth. Maybe read it again. I said the Pistons comps are off but, not by much. Accepting playoff failure? What does that even mean?

I’ll simply wait it out until the next rain shower because personally, I consider your assessment very naive.
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Post#127 » by knicks94 » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:32 pm

Some people might not consider Brunson a franchise player but so far he has earned a spot on the Mt.Rushmore of the post-Ewing era alongside Marbury, Melo and Randle.
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Post#128 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:34 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:Your overrating them. If you say any of these guys is our franchise player then you’re already accepting playoff failure. 2004 pistons had the Wallaces and our dudes are no match at all. These dudes were legit.


Nonsense. Brunson is a franchise player all day. One of the best PGs in the entire league doesn't rate as a franchise player? You are underrating them. Everything in my post is truth. Maybe read it again. I said the Pistons comps are off but, not by much. Accepting playoff failure? What does that even mean?

I’ll simply wait it out until the next rain shower because personally, I consider your assessment very naive.


It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.
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Post#129 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:40 pm

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Nonsense. Brunson is a franchise player all day. One of the best PGs in the entire league doesn't rate as a franchise player? You are underrating them. Everything in my post is truth. Maybe read it again. I said the Pistons comps are off but, not by much. Accepting playoff failure? What does that even mean?

I’ll simply wait it out until the next rain shower because personally, I consider your assessment very naive.


It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.

Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?
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Post#130 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:46 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:I’ll simply wait it out until the next rain shower because personally, I consider your assessment very naive.


It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.

Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


What are you talking about dude? LaMelo is a very good player. What does this have to do with anything I said? You are all over the place here. Again.

Brunson is one of the best PGs in the entire league right now. Not debatable. He is the type of PG that can lead a team to a title with the right pieces. He is a winning player. Anyone saying otherwise is underrating him and being obtuse about it. Period. Ask around.
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Post#131 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:55 pm

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It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.

Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


What are you talking about dude? LaMelo is a very good player. What does this have to do with anything I said? You are all over the place here. Again.

Brunson is one of the best PGs in the entire league right now. Not debatable. He is the type of PG that can lead a team to a title with the right pieces. He is a winning player. Anyone saying otherwise is underrating him and being obtuse about it. Period. Ask around.

What I’m saying is that you need to relax. We are not close to the 2004 Pistons or even any other team that will eventually advance in the playoffs this year. They are better than us. We’re on a winning streak. That is all.
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Post#132 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:59 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


What are you talking about dude? LaMelo is a very good player. What does this have to do with anything I said? You are all over the place here. Again.

Brunson is one of the best PGs in the entire league right now. Not debatable. He is the type of PG that can lead a team to a title with the right pieces. He is a winning player. Anyone saying otherwise is underrating him and being obtuse about it. Period. Ask around.

What I’m saying is that you need to relax. We are not close to the 2004 Pistons or even any other team that will eventually advance in the playoffs this year. They are better than us. We’re on a winning streak. That is all.


What you are saying is nonsense. Go away now because all you are doing is looking for an argument playing semantics. I said the Pistons comp was off.
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Post#133 » by 8516knicks » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:09 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:I’ll simply wait it out until the next rain shower because personally, I consider your assessment very naive.


It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.

Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


Now your touting players from LaVar Ball Memorial Hospital? The JB hate runs deep with u. :roll:
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Post#134 » by nedleeds » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:12 pm

Ill take the 1st pick over a first round exit all day. Can we just save bandwidth and recycle the win streak threads from the legendary 4th seed fake covid season?
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Post#135 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:14 pm

8516knicks wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.

Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


Now your touting players from LaVar Ball Memorial Hospital? The JB hate runs deep with u. :roll:


The tooic is should the Knicks blow it up. The answer is no. The discussion turned to overrating the players. I rated them properly. Then said the Pistons comps are off the mark. That set him off apparently. Because I said we aren't the Pistons but, I said we are close. As in a blue collar team that can contend if we add the right piece/s. I guess I need to pump the brakes on telling the truth. :lol:
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Post#136 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:15 pm

8516knicks wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
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It's naive to think Brunson is a winning player? He's nitna starting PG on a championship level team? Nonsense.

Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they will also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


Now your touting players from LaVar Ball Memorial Hospital? The JB hate runs deep with u. :roll:

No I love Brunson and actually hate Lamelo antics and all the hype he gets. I’m just making the point that our talent level is not up there and that this board is losing it again only because we’re currently on a winning streak. Many other teams go on streaks every now and then. We don’t have a franchise player because we didn’t go after Mitchell. We’ll have to wait and see. It’s delusional to believe we’re close to winning any, let alone multiple series.
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Post#137 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:16 pm

nedleeds wrote:Ill take the 1st pick over a first round exit all day. Can we just save bandwidth and recycle the win streak threads from the legendary 4th seed fake covid season?


Reality check. You're not getting the first pick and we haven't been eliminated from the playoffs yet.
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Post#138 » by 8516knicks » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:18 pm

nedleeds wrote:Ill take the 1st pick over a firstBu round exit all day. Can we just save bandwidth and recycle the win streak threads from the legendary 4th seed fake covid season?


But our first pick is always pick # 8 in the real world. 8-)
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Post#139 » by 8516knicks » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:28 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
8516knicks wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:Yeah exactly. Just for perspective I want to add that before Lamelo Ball‘s injury, the Hornets were on a very strong five game winning streak. I guess once they get him and the wifebeater back they Awill also compete for a title like the 2004 Pistons. Lol. Or isn’t Lamelo a starting PG on a championship team?


Now your touting players from LaVar Ball Memorial Hospital? The JB hate runs deep with u. :roll:

No I love Brunson and actually hate Lamelo antics and all the hype he currently on a winning streak. Many other teams go on streaks every now and then. We don’t have a franchise player because we didn’t go after Mitchell. We’ll have to wait and see. It’s delusional to believe we’re close to winning any, let alone multiple series.


Aha! A Donovan Mitchell post sighting. That explains things. I say this as a friend, wouldn't Scientology or Flat Eartherism be easier? :D 8-) :wink: :lol:
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Post#140 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:38 pm

8516knicks wrote:
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Now your touting players from LaVar Ball Memorial Hospital? The JB hate runs deep with u. :roll:

No I love Brunson and actually hate Lamelo antics and all the hype he currently on a winning streak. Many other teams go on streaks every now and then. We don’t have a franchise player because we didn’t go after Mitchell. We’ll have to wait and see. It’s delusional to believe we’re close to winning any, let alone multiple series.


Aha! A Donovan Mitchell post sighting. That explains things. I say this as a friend, wouldn't Scientology or Flat Eartherism be easier? :D 8-) :wink: :lol:

Aren’t you the one who sees crazy things? :crazy:

I see an ordinary team on an ordinary winning streak.

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