Build a Franchise (Season 6)- Discussion Thread continued

Fat · Post #121 » by **Fat** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:34 pm

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Post #122 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:43 pm

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He gave it to joker

TerrenceClarke · Post #123 » by **TerrenceClarke** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:23 am

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we're glad @JoelEmbiid starts for us.

Fat · Post #124 » by **Fat** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:28 am

I’m open to trading my 2023 lottery pick draft rights (read my draft page and be advised how the protection works)

This what y’all wanted right? Let me hear the offers

DerrickNoah · Post #125 » by **DerrickNoah** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:17 am

Buzzard wrote:I am making Keegan Murray ( $52/3(4) years ) available. Biggest need is a center who could push Okongwu for starter minutes. Now and into the future.

I’m a Keegan fan (iowa hawkeye) if you see a deal that works with PHX. Franz isn’t available but anyone else can be discussed.

TerrenceClarke · Post #126 » by **TerrenceClarke** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:36 am

Fat wrote:I’m open to trading my 2023 lottery pick draft rights (read my draft page and be advised how the protection works)

This what y’all wanted right? Let me hear the offers

Bruh. Dont cave in. Just commit to it. It is what it is. Keep your pick.

Fat · Post #127 » by **Fat** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:44 am

TerrenceClarke wrote:
Fat wrote:I’m open to trading my 2023 lottery pick draft rights (read my draft page and be advised how the protection works)

This what y’all wanted right? Let me hear the offers

Bruh. Dont cave in. Just commit to it. It is what it is. Keep your pick.

I wanna see what the offers are

TerrenceClarke · Post #128 » by **TerrenceClarke** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:09 am

Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

2023 1st- Traded to Orlando (lottery protected becoming unprotected 1st round pick in 2024)- this pick now belongs to Detroit- now belongs to Memphis- traded back to Detroit- Miami has control of their 2023 and 2024 1st round picks again- via Detroit.)- Traded to Golden State (Lottery protected, Miami gets 1-14, Golden State gets 15-30- if this pick does not convey in 2023 then Golden State gets nothing in return)

Memphis

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City-via Miami (Lottery protected)- via Oklahoma City (Orlando's pick goes to Miami if it is 1-14 and to Detroit if it is 15-30. If Miami gets this pick then Detroit gets the 2024 1st from Orlando)- via Detroit (Miami gets 1-14, Memphis gets 15-30)

Indiana

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City (Lottery protected)- traded to Detroit (Miami gets it if its 1-14, Detroit gets 15-30)- via Miami (Indiana gets 1-14, Detroit gets 15-30)

E-Balla · Post #129 » by **E-Balla** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:25 am

Capn'O wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
In what world?

Scoring: up
Rebounds: up
Per: up
TS%: up
Usage: up
Blocks: up
Steals: flat

Only assists down.

Where are you getting this? I don't have any indication that they use rpm or anything of the like. Raw production seems tantamount.

You're forgetting league averages are up. That's adjusted in the sim engine not with ratings.

Scoring: 13th in PPG in 2022, 13th so far this year.
Rebounds: 45th in RPG in 2022, 42nd so far this year.
Assists: 61st in APG in 2022, 75th so far this year.

And I can keep going but I think you get it. His efficiency is up so he'll be more efficient, but again that's a league wide phenomenon.

But it's definitely not a down year with PER normalizing for league average. PER is up.

PER is barely up and BPM is half what it was last year and the team's overall defense is worse (the best predictor we have for DEF ratings).

E-Balla · Post #130 » by **E-Balla** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:26 am

Jamal Murray has been on a tear as of late. I see you HerSports.

bishnykfan · Post #131 » by **bishnykfan** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:30 am

TerrenceClarke wrote:Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

2023 1st- Traded to Orlando (lottery protected becoming unprotected 1st round pick in 2024)- this pick now belongs to Detroit- now belongs to Memphis- traded back to Detroit- Miami has control of their 2023 and 2024 1st round picks again- via Detroit.)- Traded to Golden State (Lottery protected, Miami gets 1-14, Golden State gets 15-30- if this pick does not convey in 2023 then Golden State gets nothing in return)

Memphis

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City-via Miami (Lottery protected)- via Oklahoma City (Orlando's pick goes to Miami if it is 1-14 and to Detroit if it is 15-30. If Miami gets this pick then Detroit gets the 2024 1st from Orlando)- via Detroit (Miami gets 1-14, Memphis gets 15-30)

The first pick is Miami's 2023 1st. Right now, Miami gets it if it is in the lottery (1-14). If Miami makes the playoffs, then Golden State will get the Miami 1st (15-30).

The second pick is Orlando's 2023 1st. At this time Miami holds 1-14, Memphis holds 15-30. If the pick ends in the lottery, then Memphis gets the Orlando 2024 1st.

EDIT- Indiana (not Miami) gets this pick if it is 1-14.

TerrenceClarke · Post #132 » by **TerrenceClarke** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:38 am

bishnykfan wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

2023 1st- Traded to Orlando (lottery protected becoming unprotected 1st round pick in 2024)- this pick now belongs to Detroit- now belongs to Memphis- traded back to Detroit- Miami has control of their 2023 and 2024 1st round picks again- via Detroit.)- Traded to Golden State (Lottery protected, Miami gets 1-14, Golden State gets 15-30- if this pick does not convey in 2023 then Golden State gets nothing in return)

Memphis

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City-via Miami (Lottery protected)- via Oklahoma City (Orlando's pick goes to Miami if it is 1-14 and to Detroit if it is 15-30. If Miami gets this pick then Detroit gets the 2024 1st from Orlando)- via Detroit (Miami gets 1-14, Memphis gets 15-30)

The first pick is Miami's 2023 1st. Right now, Miami gets it if it is in the lottery (1-14). If Miami makes the playoffs, then Golden State will get the Miami 1st (15-30).

The second pick is Orlando's 2023 1st. At this time Miami holds 1-14, Memphis holds 15-30. If the pick ends in the lottery, then Memphis gets the Orlando 2024 1st.

Ok Thanks. So many of the teams were the same confused me.

E-Balla · Post #133 » by **E-Balla** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:46 am

Hamidou Diallo with 15 points in 19 minutes with 5 steals. +16. 3 point loss.

It's sucks that he's not getting a bunch of minutes because they want to tank and he's too good.

In the last 15 he's averaging 13/5 in 21 mpg. 68% from the field. +2 average +/- for a terrible Pistons team. If they give him more minutes by the end of the year or he gets traded I'm ready for the value to skyrocket.

Context · Post #134 » by **Context** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:49 am

TerrenceClarke wrote:Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

2023 1st- Traded to Orlando (lottery protected becoming unprotected 1st round pick in 2024)- this pick now belongs to Detroit- now belongs to Memphis- traded back to Detroit- Miami has control of their 2023 and 2024 1st round picks again- via Detroit.)- Traded to Golden State (Lottery protected, Miami gets 1-14, Golden State gets 15-30- if this pick does not convey in 2023 then Golden State gets nothing in return)

the bold is all that matters....the rest is the history of the pick...

Memphis

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City-via Miami (Lottery protected)- via Oklahoma City (Orlando's pick goes to Miami if it is 1-14 and to Detroit if it is 15-30. If Miami gets this pick then Detroit gets the 2024 1st from Orlando)- via Detroit (Miami gets 1-14, Memphis gets 15-30)
the bold is current but this is missing in the language:
for memphis: If Miami gets this pick then Detroit gets the 2024 1st from Orlando

Indiana

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City (Lottery protected)- traded to Detroit (Miami gets it if its 1-14, Detroit gets 15-30)- via Miami (Indiana gets 1-14, Detroit gets 15-30)

??/? not sure

Fat · Post #135 » by **Fat** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:55 am

bishnykfan wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

2023 1st- Traded to Orlando (lottery protected becoming unprotected 1st round pick in 2024)- this pick now belongs to Detroit- now belongs to Memphis- traded back to Detroit- Miami has control of their 2023 and 2024 1st round picks again- via Detroit.)- Traded to Golden State (Lottery protected, Miami gets 1-14, Golden State gets 15-30- if this pick does not convey in 2023 then Golden State gets nothing in return)

Memphis

2023 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City-via Miami (Lottery protected)- via Oklahoma City (Orlando's pick goes to Miami if it is 1-14 and to Detroit if it is 15-30. If Miami gets this pick then Detroit gets the 2024 1st from Orlando)- via Detroit (Miami gets 1-14, Memphis gets 15-30)

The first pick is Miami's 2023 1st. Right now, Miami gets it if it is in the lottery (1-14). If Miami makes the playoffs, then Golden State will get the Miami 1st (15-30).

The second pick is Orlando's 2023 1st. At this time Miami holds 1-14, Memphis holds 15-30. If the pick ends in the lottery, then Memphis gets the Orlando 2024 1st.

Wait so I currently got two 1st rounders right now?

Buzzard · Post #136 » by **Buzzard** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:02 am

Fat wrote:
bishnykfan wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

Memphis

The first pick is Miami's 2023 1st. Right now, Miami gets it if it is in the lottery (1-14). If Miami makes the playoffs, then Golden State will get the Miami 1st (15-30).

The second pick is Orlando's 2023 1st. At this time Miami holds 1-14, Memphis holds 15-30. If the pick ends in the lottery, then Memphis gets the Orlando 2024 1st.

Wait so I currently got two 1st rounders right now?

The way I read it on my draft pick ownership page is if my Pacers don't get Orlando's 2023 1st 1-14, then Detroit gets it 15 - 30. I will then get Orlando's unprotected 2024 1st round pick.

2024 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City if 2023 1st round pick is not conveyed- (traded to Detroit- Detroit gets the pick if they didn't receive the 2023 Orlando 1st- Miami gets this pick if Detroit got the 2023 1st)- via Miami Detroit gets the pick if they didn't receive the 2023 Orlando 1st- Indiana gets this pick if Detroit got the 2023 1st).

bishnykfan · Post #137 » by **bishnykfan** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:02 am

Miami gets Orlando 1-30

Spoiler:

Miami gets 1-14
Oklahoma City gets 15-30

Spoiler:

Miami gets 1-14
Detroit gets 15-30

Spoiler:

Indiana gets 1-14
Detroit gets 15-30

Spoiler:

Indiana gets 1-14
Memphis gets 15-30

Spoiler:

Had to retrace the path of the Orlando 2023 1st, but as of now, Indiana gets it if it is in the lotto, Memphis gets it if it is 15-30.

Buzzard · Post #138 » by **Buzzard** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:08 am

bishnykfan wrote:Miami gets Orlando 1-30

Spoiler:
7/9/21- The Orlando Magic have agreed to trade Gordon Hayward, Tyus Jones, Saben Lee, a 2023 1st round draft pick, a 2024 1st round draft pick, a 2022 2nd round draft pick and a 2023 2nd round draft pick to the Miami Heat in exchange for Malcolm Brogdon, Robert Covington and JaMychal Green.

Miami gets 1-14
Oklahoma City gets 15-30

Spoiler:
8/13- The Oklahoma City Thunder have agreed to trade Jeff Teague, Josh Primo and DeAndre Bembry to the Miami Heat in exchange for a 2023 1st round draft pick* (From Orlando).

*- Lottery protected in 2023 becoming an unprotected 2024 1st round pick (From Orlando) if not conveyed.

Miami gets 1-14
Detroit gets 15-30

Spoiler:
8/28- The Detroit Pistons have agreed to trade TJ Warren to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for Nicolas Batum, Luc Mbah a Moute and a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Orlando*).

*- Lottery protected- This Orlando pick belongs to Miami if it falls in the lottery. Detroit will get 15-30. Detroit will receive the Orlando 2024 1st round draft pick if this pick does not convey. Miami receives 2024 if Detroit got 2023.

Indiana gets 1-14
Detroit gets 15-30

Spoiler:
7/9- The Indiana Pacers have agreed to trade Saddiq Bey to the Miami Heat in exchange for Isaac Okoro and a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Orlando)*.

*- Indiana only gets the Orlando 2023 1st if it is 1-14. If the pick is 15-30 then Detroit gets the Orlando 1st and Indiana will receive the Orlando 2024 1st round pick. If Indiana gets the 2023 1st from Orlando, then Detroit will get the 2024 Orlando 1st.

Indiana gets 1-14
Memphis gets 15-30

Spoiler:
1/15- The Detroit Pistons have agreed to trade Jimmy Butler to the Brooklyn Nets and a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Orlando*) to the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Brooklyn) and a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Memphis**).

The Brooklyn Nets have agreed to trade Mohamed Bamba to the Memphis Grizzlies along with a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Brooklyn) and a 2024 1st round draft pick (From Memphis**) to the Detroit Pistons in exchange for Jimmy Butler.

The Memphis Grizzlies have agreed to trade for Mohamed Bamba and a 2023 1st round draft pick (From Orlando*).

*- Miami gets this pick if it is 1-14. Memphis gets this pick if it falls 15-30. If Miami gets this pick then Memphis will get the 2024 Orlando 1st round pick.

**- Top 10 protected becoming top 8 protected in 2025 if not conveyed. Then unprotected in 2026 if neither 2024 or 2025 is conveyed.

Had to retrace the path of the Orlando 2023 1st, but as of now, Indiana gets it if it is in the lotto, Memphis gets it if it is 15-30.

Yes but it is suppose to convey to me ( Pacers ) in 2024 if it does not convey in 2023. I never traded my rights away.

2024 1st- From Orlando- Traded to Oklahoma City if 2023 1st round pick is not conveyed- (traded to Detroit- Detroit gets the pick if they didn't receive the 2023 Orlando 1st- Miami gets this pick if Detroit got the 2023 1st)- via Miami Detroit gets the pick if they didn't receive the 2023 Orlando 1st- Indiana gets this pick if Detroit got the 2023 1st).

TerrenceClarke · Post #139 » by **TerrenceClarke** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:09 am

Fat wrote:
bishnykfan wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:Alot of this Draft Langauge is confusing. Someone Help me out.

Is this the same Pick? This language is so similar with teams etc.

Miami

Memphis

The first pick is Miami's 2023 1st. Right now, Miami gets it if it is in the lottery (1-14). If Miami makes the playoffs, then Golden State will get the Miami 1st (15-30).

The second pick is Orlando's 2023 1st. At this time Miami holds 1-14, Memphis holds 15-30. If the pick ends in the lottery, then Memphis gets the Orlando 2024 1st.

Wait so I currently got two 1st rounders right now?

as of now the Pick is mines. Orlando is a playoff team.

br7knicks · Post #140 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:10 am

sweet. can barely beat tanking teams with my top guy out