KnixinSix wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:Wildcat wrote:
Objectively speaking, I am curious on how a frontcourt of Joel and Randle could operate. There will be better spacing compared to Mitch.
I think it's an awful pairing. All you need to see it is from a skillset perspective. If Embiid gets the most shots, and Brunson gets the second most, how does Randle contribute? Defense...nope. Plus Brunson is already a crap defender, so that already gives us two big negatives. Floor spacing...well, the Knicks are connected with OG Anunoby, and he's a much better floor spacer and defender. To that end, if we get Embiid, I'm probably rolling the dice on PG13 or somebody.
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Also, the question if we ever get Joel Embiid is not "how do we maximize Randle?" It's how do we maximize Embiid? Randle is good in the short-term and better than most players, but he's going to have to really change if he wants to be a championship level player in his current role.
Not necessarily. Randle could lessen the pressure on Embiid as he is a rugged forward that will make Embiids life easier. Also vice versa. Neither one is bound to scoring one way and both have mid range games while Randle has a legit 3 game too.
Once again, you ignore a whole part of the court. Feel like you’ve already invalidated your argument based on that, since your argument on offense is bad too.
What is this legit 3 point game you speak of? If Randle is legit, does that mean Tobias Harris is a god? Why would I want to give Embiid a legit 3 point shooter when I can give him a god three point shooter as a front court partner? Maybe a Demi-god 37% shooter instead?
Finally, like I said, this is not about giving both players freedom. Only a select few players in this league deserve to get freedom. When Randle is on this team, we lack talent, so he gets a bit of freedom.
But if Embiid comes, Randle should not be getting any more freedom. You think he should be taking mid range shots when both Embiid and Brunson on this team? Hell no…both those guys are way more effective at it. If we have a team with Embiid and Brunson and Randle is still taking a regular diet of mid ranged jumpers, then someone failed. Almost any other shot from Embiid and Brunson at that point is way more efficient.
Nope, if Embiid comes, I’m not telling Embiid, great, you can also spread the floor for Randle too. I’ll tell him, you do what you want, and I’ll get you a front court partner that does all the little stuff for you. You didn’t come to the Knicks to spread the floor for Randle; you came to the Knicks to be the first option. And when you get tired on offense, give it to Brunson. Everyone else, do your jobs. Don’t do some diva shyt. I’d tell Randle, to play your Chris Bosh role or get off this team.
