Quentin Grimes

[nykballa2k4]

Keep Grimes. Trade for Brogdon.

Brogdon is the easy answer. I think that we honestly could benefit by having an EC going into next season because we can then trade Mitch+Brog + picks for a max player if one of the elite ones comes available.

I am also okay if we don't do this and just let Deuce and Grimes figure it out. I think Hart also has the ability to be a guy who can run the offense.

Brogdon does obviously give us protection immediately incase Brunson goes down for a few games again.

[Capn'O]

Keep Grimes. Trade for Brogdon.

what do you do with Grimes then after the trade...if your trying to build up his value for a future trade he will have basically no role on the team.

Unless there are big moves ahead in Blazerland I'm not sure what use they have for Grimes though. Sharpe, Simons, and Rupert are all young SGs. We're not great trade partners with them anymore otherwise I think the Brogdon deal would already be done.

[mpharris36]

Keep Grimes. Trade for Brogdon.

what do you do with Grimes then after the trade...if your trying to build up his value for a future trade he will have basically no role on the team.

Unless there are big moves ahead in Blazerland I'm not sure what use they have for Grimes though. Sharpe, Simon's, and Rupert are all young SGs. We're not great trade partners with them anymore.

yeah I understand...the logical trade is Fournier and a protected 1st and be done with it and that is likely what we do. But you will also be diminishing Grimes as an asset since he basically would be fringe not even in the rotation at that point. Maybe its a 3 team deal with Grimes going...and the pick asset goes from that team to Blazers with the Fournier contract.

[Capn'O]

what do you do with Grimes then after the trade...if your trying to build up his value for a future trade he will have basically no role on the team.

Unless there are big moves ahead in Blazerland I'm not sure what use they have for Grimes though. Sharpe, Simon's, and Rupert are all young SGs. We're not great trade partners with them anymore.

yeah I understand...the logical trade is Fournier and a protected 1st and be done with it and that is likely what we do. But you will also be diminishing Grimes as an asset since he basically would be fringe not even in the rotation at that point. Maybe its a 3 team deal with Grimes going...and the pick asset goes from that team to Blazers with the Fournier contract.

That's what I'm thinking. It would have to be three team or secondary trade. We do seem to have a good rapport with the Blazers though. If they needed Grimes I think the deal would be done. Brogdon is such a natural add.

[HarthorneWingo]

If we trade them away and they go on to become successful, that says we suck at developing talent because we let them go too soon.

Or we suck at developing young talent.

Ummm...is there any other talent that can be developed? WTF?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Or we suck at developing young talent.

Ummm...is there any other talent that can be developed? WTF?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Unless there are big moves ahead in Blazerland I'm not sure what use they have for Grimes though. Sharpe, Simon's, and Rupert are all young SGs. We're not great trade partners with them anymore.

yeah I understand...the logical trade is Fournier and a protected 1st and be done with it and that is likely what we do. But you will also be diminishing Grimes as an asset since he basically would be fringe not even in the rotation at that point. Maybe its a 3 team deal with Grimes going...and the pick asset goes from that team to Blazers with the Fournier contract.

That's what I'm thinking. It would have to be three team. We do seem to have a good rapport with the Blazers though. If they needed Grimes I think the deal would be done. Brogdon is such a natural add.

Can Precious/Flynn be combined in a trade? I know they can't be combined with other players but they came in the same trade so does that apply to them together as well? I'm trying to figure out how to get both bench pieces we need to make a run this year. The only other option would be three team trade or vet minimum players for one of those trades.

We clearly need a 3rd scorer who can help run the second unit. Brogdon type player. We clearly need a backup PF/C to hold us down until iHart is 100% and if/when Mitch returns. Otherwise we will be limping into the playoffs again like last year. We are out of salary if we trade Evan/Sims/Pick for Brogdon. What do we use to get the backup 4/5?

I mean...we could use Achoo in the Obi role but, he is NOT a center at all. So we still need a backup 5 to matchup with bigger FCs than TOR has for example.

I really hope they figure this out. Brogdon and nothing else leaves us really really thin until Mitch can try and come back. We have no injury depth in the FC at all. We have no scoring/true distributor outside of Brunson in the BC. We have no reliable scoring from the bench whatsoever. If they can't fix these issues we are wasting an opportunity to make noise this year. Brogdon or Murray could fix the latter but, the FC is fuqqed.

[nismos14]

I’m watching the Nuggets vs. Celtics game and I spending a lot of time focusing on Jamal Murray. And I’m like, he reminds me a lot of QG in terms of size and physique. So I’m thinking why cant Grimes turn into Murray? Even a poor man’s Murray would be fine.

One thing I noticed is that Murray plays much more free and easy whereas Grimes plays like if he makes a mistake, Thibs will sub him out.

The upshot is that I’m afraid that if we trade Grimes, he will flourish in a more conducive environment.

I understand that QG has made it know to the coaching staff that he’s very frustrated. I think that if we trade him, we’d be selling very low.

outside of there physical size and stature they have nothing similar in terms of there games. Murray has a ridiculous bag. Grimes is a C&S guy and attack close out guy. That is about.

Murray has a ridiculous layup package, step back jumper, and runs an elite P&R. Grimes can't do any of that.

Isn’t that what “development” is all about? Shouldn’t our coaching staff be working with him to develop those skills? He’s shown no improvement in that area. He was a playmaker in college.

Using your logic, anyone who has a Jordan physique should develop into Jordan. It clearly doesn't work like that. Jordan had a killer instinct that no one has brought to the game since. He was the GOAT simply because of how he played the psychological name and destroyed opponents and held teammates accountable beyond anyone we have seen in the modern game.

[moocow007]

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Hard pass if it includes a 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’d include one it just has to be this years pick or one of the other teams protected picks certainly no future unprotected

Yeah if it's a reasonable pick it's worth considering. Clarkson is an elite 6th man and he's under contract at a bargain for the next 2 seasons.

[cgmw]

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From a jazz insider who’s usually been right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hard pass if it includes a 1st!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’d include one it just has to be this years pick or one of the other teams protected picks certainly no future unprotected

Yeah if it's a reasonable pick it's worth considering. Clarkson is an elite 6th man and he's under contract at a bargain for the next 2 seasons.

Personality wise, he’s definitely a fit with Hart, Brunson and the Nova boys. Question is would we need that FRP to land a bigger fish this summer/next season.

[moocow007]

I’d include one it just has to be this years pick or one of the other teams protected picks certainly no future unprotected

Yeah if it's a reasonable pick it's worth considering. Clarkson is an elite 6th man and he's under contract at a bargain for the next 2 seasons.

Personality wise, he’s definitely a fit with Hart, Brunson and the Nova boys. Question is would we need that FRP to land a bigger fish this summer/next season.

Yeah. I think if it's the Knicks pick this season then maybe it's a low risk to make it unprotected. Barring a swoon (and I don't think you'll see it with this years team) they will likely be looking at a bottom 3rd of the 1st round in one of the weakest drafts in a long long time. Or maybe they can expand the trade to include Olynyk if the Knicks are to give up both Grimes and a unprotected 1st.

[FrozenEnvelope]

Grimes = Bullock 2.0

[Jonathan2347]

Our only and last offer to Utah needs to be Fournier + Grimes + Protected 1st round pick (one of those fancy 3 we aquired).

If they say no, we walk away. Unprotected picks need to be saved for bigger trades.

We need to offer the same to ATL with 2 protected 1st and 1 swap and close that deal today !

[3toheadmelo]

grimes is always going to have value in this league. you don't sell low on him.

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