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Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#121 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:35 pm

BigShot Bojan wrote:76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract



DeRozan can't shoot threes, they're better off with George.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#122 » by aggo » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:37 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#123 » by HopelessKnick » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:53 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:This too
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WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WAS A REGULAR PUTBACK DUNK THAT GOT CONTESTED BUT I GUESS IT'S SOMETHING TO HYPE UP WITH ALL CAPS BECAUSE THAT MIGHT GET CLICKS!!!!!!!!!!!


All good shotblockers get dunked on. No big deal.

The takeaway for me here is that Kessler did not give up on the play but challenged a 7'5 guy in position to dunk. That's a great mentality and something you can create a great defender from.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#124 » by Wildcat » Tue Jul 9, 2024 12:53 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract


DeRozan can't shoot threes, they're better off with George.


With an empty roster, I thought they could have pivot to DeMar and pull off another deal. Joel shoots 3's, Maxey shoots 3's. Having another guy to hit 3's makes DeMar look appealing as their mid-range guy.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#125 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:10 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#126 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:14 pm

Kessler would both be a great fit and a solid developmental player.
No brainer.

But its about cost.
We gave up a lot in the bridges deal, obviously.
We may not have the assets to trade for him.


Reed on the other hand should also be a no brainer.
Hes smaller that ideal but not a downgrade from Precious IMO. Perhaps an upgrade.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#127 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:20 pm

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Forget about Kessler, there's no way that draft pick horder Ainge accepts any protected 1st from the Knicks.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#128 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:31 pm

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Red Vines wrote:I'm okay with Mitch/Hukporti/Sims to start the season with the option to play smaller too. This team has a good size window, at this point it might be best to see what we got then adjust again from there.


Hukporti the backup center?

No.

He was signed to a 2-way deal, so not even sure he'll be with the team very much. He'll have to really show off to stay with the Knicks.
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Post#129 » by sol537 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:35 pm

WAS 1st, DET 1st, future 2nd should get it done for Kessler.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#130 » by Riot Randolph » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:40 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract



DeRozan can't shoot threes, they're better off with George.

yeah but with that extra 27 million you could find plenty who do...additionally last 5 years derozen has played 60 games or more in 4/5 years while PG13 has done it once.....
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#131 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:41 pm

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The 5 blocks were nice but he also got bullied a bunch of times and had a bad turnover. He really should be dominating these games. He looked more underwhelming than anything tbh.

Yeah, he looked ok but i don’t think he’s good enough to where we have to give up Deuce. Edey dominated him too. Would rather roll with Mitch, precious and a cheap big like Sandro or Reed I guess. Kessler kinda reminds me of Whiteside ngl


Yea, plus I really do think we might have to rollout some small ball lineups to have our best shot in the playoffs against the Celtics. Rim protectors with 0 offense are barely playable against them. Better off with Randle defending KP/Horford and OG/Mikal on Tatum/Brown.

Randle
OG
Mikal
Hart or Donte
Brunson

Yeah I wanna see more small ball as well. Getting mikal can help us do that now. Also if I remember correctly, Randle had success defensively playing the 5 on the Lakers.
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Post#132 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:47 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:If GSW trade for Kessler & Lauri, we need Trayce Jackson Davis please and thank you . Mitch/TJD/Precious/Sims is bueno

TJD would be a good get
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Post#133 » by R-DAWG » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:49 pm

BigShot Bojan wrote:76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract


I'm not sure I fully agree here - but I get why some would make the argument that DeRozan + KCP + likely another $5.5MM in cap space would be more desirable than Paul George (this analysis would have included both Drummond and Martin singed into cap space as well). But Paul Geogre at his best is a far superior player to DeMarr DeRozan at his best.

The Sixers top 5 of Maxey-Oubre-George-Martin-Embiid is awesome. Lots of length, shooting and playmaking surrounding Embiid.

The bench with Gordon, Drummond and McCain is underwhelming unless McCain has a great rookie year.

Let's see what they are able to do with a KJ Martin expiring contract, a minimum contract and a good amount of draft capital at the deadline.

If healthy, and I know that's a big if, this team is very, very good and might have the best top 3 in the league. And historically, teams with Big 3's do extremely well in the playoffs.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#134 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:54 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
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Forget about Kessler, there's no way that draft pick horder Ainge accepts any protected 1st from the Knicks.


We need a Center and it would be tremendously wasteful that we go for it so aggressively for Bridges then lose a key player like I-Hart and then have to rely on an extremely injury prone Mitch at the 5. The Bridges move signified emptying the warchest as a very much 'win-now' move.

So, if we are going for it, then do what it takes to secure a championship roster that has depth at the key positions that Thibs needs to run his system!

Now the Donovan Mitchell trade didn't happen until real late a few seasons ago, so this may be a waiting game, but either way we need to get a guy that can rim protect here to play with the oft-injured Robinson.

Between McBride, Dadiet, McCullers, Sims and the Detroit and/or Washington 1st round picks, there has to be some combination that is strong enough to net us Kessler or Richards or another guy that can rim protect at the 5 at a high level like Thibs system needs.

And then a vet high level ball handler to back up Brunson like Lowry or DSJ until Kolek is ready.
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Post#135 » by R-DAWG » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:55 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
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So true!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Knicks paid 300 cents on the dollar while positioning themselves to be in rough shape as Brunson/Bridges hit their early 30's and Randle his mid 30's (2028-2031) for a fringe top-30 player.

I guess it would have been historic if I maxed out all my credit cards to pay a Ferrari price for shiny new S Class.

Remember, the ancillary cost of the Bridges trade was having no assets to play with for an extended period of time.
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Post#136 » by RHODEY » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:55 pm

Wildcat wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract


DeRozan can't shoot threes, they're better off with George.


With an empty roster, I thought they could have pivot to DeMar and pull off another deal. Joel shoots 3's, Maxey shoots 3's. Having another guy to hit 3's makes DeMar look appealing as their mid-range guy.


I agree they should have gone for more depth. But either way they are kinda screwed because of Embiid.
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Post#137 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:01 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
BigShot Bojan wrote:76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract


I'm not sure I fully agree here - but I get why some would make the argument that DeRozan + KCP + likely another $5.5MM in cap space would be more desirable than Paul George (this analysis would have included both Drummond and Martin singed into cap space as well). But Paul Geogre at his best is a far superior player to DeMarr DeRozan at his best.

The Sixers top 5 of Maxey-Oubre-George-Martin-Embiid is awesome. Lots of length, shooting and playmaking surrounding Embiid.

The bench with Gordon, Drummond and McCain is underwhelming unless McCain has a great rookie year.

Let's see what they are able to do with a KJ Martin expiring contract, a minimum contract and a good amount of draft capital at the deadline.

If healthy, and I know that's a big if, this team is very, very good and might have the best top 3 in the league. And historically, teams with Big 3's do extremely well in the playoffs.


I agree on paper that team looks fantastic. But Embiid is getting older and the injuries keep piling up. Same with George who is now 34 and quite injury prone (even if he was fairly healthy last year in a contract year). Sure if that team makes the playoffs totally healthy they would no doubt be a tough out, however that team's top two players are super injury prone. And recent history shows when your top two stars around 30 or north of 30 AND are injury prone they rarely have been going deep in the playoffs.

The Knicks top players are ALL sub 30 and except for Randle 27 or under. Combine that with good coaching, phenomenal team chemistry and maybe only our 3rd or 4th most important players being injury prone (OG and Mitch Rob), I like this team's chances a whole lot more than I do Philly.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#138 » by spree8 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:18 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
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So true!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Knicks paid 300 cents on the dollar while positioning themselves to be in rough shape as Brunson/Bridges hit their early 30's and Randle his mid 30's (2028-2031) for a fringe top-30 player.

I guess it would have been historic if I maxed out all my credit cards to pay a Ferrari price for shiny new S Class.

Remember, the ancillary cost of the Bridges trade was having no assets to play with for an extended period of time.


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Post#139 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:19 pm

Possible interest in Davis Bertans per Scotto
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#140 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:21 pm

I wish there was a way to get Steven Adams on this team

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