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Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At?

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#121 » by Fat Kat » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:50 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#122 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:07 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Knicks are gonna go into the 2nd apron for Ayton and you'll like it

A few things about Ayton:

- I know his heart and attitude have been questioned but maybe some of that was Monty's fault
- I recall reading the Suns won the minutes he played in the Finals vs Bucks.
- I noticed when Knicks played at Portland this year Ayton was killing it with jumpers from the free throw line. Not floaters like Hartenstein but nice jump shots, an element neither iHart or Mitch provided. I think he had 30 that game, or almost
- Thibs could improve his rim protection
- he's buddies with Mikal, and in general Knicks culture would get him to play with hard

I don't know all the salary or trade details, but there's a lot of positives imo.

You just say it like they’re facts, but I think you’re totally wrong :lol:

Just like Randle can’t stop making bad decisions, this dude cannot be arsed to play defense. I think he can, but I also think he won’t. He’s pretty good offensively when he’s on the ball. Not a passer though. Ball will stick. Not a smart player, not necessarily a plus player.

Not necessarily a negative either. IMO could go after Valanciunas instead and not miss a beat (I’m not saying they’re the same player though, don’t @ me).
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#123 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:13 pm

Did we sign Boban yet?
How bout Slavko Vranes?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#124 » by sol537 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:20 pm

I think we'll sign Precious and then we'll trade for another big at the Feb '24 deadline.

Unless we get Utah to bite on Kessler for McBride plus picks...
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#125 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:27 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Knicks are gonna go into the 2nd apron for Ayton and you'll like it

A few things about Ayton:

- I know his heart and attitude have been questioned but maybe some of that was Monty's fault
- I recall reading the Suns won the minutes he played in the Finals vs Bucks.
- I noticed when Knicks played at Portland this year Ayton was killing it with jumpers from the free throw line. Not floaters like Hartenstein but nice jump shots, an element neither iHart or Mitch provided. I think he had 30 that game, or almost
- Thibs could improve his rim protection
- he's buddies with Mikal, and in general Knicks culture would get him to play with hard

I don't know all the salary or trade details, but there's a lot of positives imo.

You just say it like they’re facts, but I think you’re totally wrong :lol:

Just like Randle can’t stop making bad decisions, this dude cannot be arsed to play defense. I think he can, but I also think he won’t. He’s pretty good offensively when he’s on the ball. Not a passer though. Ball will stick. Not a smart player, not necessarily a plus player.

Not necessarily a negative either. IMO could go after Valanciunas instead and not miss a beat (I’m not saying they’re the same player though, don’t @ me).

First time ever hearing the ball sticks with Ayton. He gets criticized for being too passive.

Anyways he played a massive role on a finals team. So he can clearly impact winning.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#126 » by 8516knicks » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:31 pm

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Post#127 » by aggo » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:41 pm

ayton in a weird way would make a lot of sense


but it stops making sense the moment you include any real assets.
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Post#128 » by dukeknicksirish » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:44 pm

aggo wrote:ayton in a weird way would make a lot of sense


but it stops making sense the moment you include any real assets.

How is his defense vs stretch 5’s?
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Post#129 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:49 pm

Ayton did a film breakdown about his defense with Mike Schmitz a couple years ago when he was one of the best big men defenders in the league at the time. Good stuff if anyone wants to watch it.

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#130 » by sol537 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:30 pm

We could get Ayton in December or February using Mitch, Precious (re-signed on a new deal) and Deuce with some second rounders coming back our way.

I imagine Portland will be looking to tank and cash out on their vets like Grant and Ayton for younger players.
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Post#131 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:32 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Knicks are gonna go into the 2nd apron for Ayton and you'll like it

A few things about Ayton:

- I know his heart and attitude have been questioned but maybe some of that was Monty's fault
- I recall reading the Suns won the minutes he played in the Finals vs Bucks.
- I noticed when Knicks played at Portland this year Ayton was killing it with jumpers from the free throw line. Not floaters like Hartenstein but nice jump shots, an element neither iHart or Mitch provided. I think he had 30 that game, or almost
- Thibs could improve his rim protection
- he's buddies with Mikal, and in general Knicks culture would get him to play with hard

I don't know all the salary or trade details, but there's a lot of positives imo.

You just say it like they’re facts, but I think you’re totally wrong :lol:

Just like Randle can’t stop making bad decisions, this dude cannot be arsed to play defense. I think he can, but I also think he won’t. He’s pretty good offensively when he’s on the ball. Not a passer though. Ball will stick. Not a smart player, not necessarily a plus player.

Not necessarily a negative either. IMO could go after Valanciunas instead and not miss a beat (I’m not saying they’re the same player though, don’t @ me).


No not saying those are facts, just my opinions. Being hopeful.
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Post#132 » by knicks1999 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:33 pm

Just curious….I tried keeping up with all the trades on draft night….did the Knicks come away with extra seconds for the future?
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Post#133 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:57 pm

knicks1999 wrote:Just curious….I tried keeping up with all the trades on draft night….did the Knicks come away with extra seconds for the future?

I think they got 4 2nd rounders from okc
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Post#134 » by Knicksrule2k4 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:02 pm

No interest in Capela?
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Post#135 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:06 pm

sol537 wrote:I think we'll sign Precious and then we'll trade for another big at the Feb '24 deadline.

Unless we get Utah to bite on Kessler for McBride plus picks...




I don't think they can wait till the deadline, nobody believes Mitch will be healthy, the fact they want a center that can start for 30 games says enough. If Mitch gets hurt in December again, we don't have IHart to bail us out, and Tom would immediately start playing guys a ridiculous amount of minutes to make up for the loss.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#136 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:06 pm

Knicks get Ayton yet?
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Post#137 » by aggo » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:06 pm

beyond gross that people seem more amenable to ayton than KAT
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Post#138 » by epics2002 » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:17 pm

aggo wrote:beyond gross that people seem more amenable to ayton than KAT


KAT is a defensive liabiity no thank you
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread Cont'd - Where the Center At? 

Post#139 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:30 pm

aggo wrote:beyond gross that people seem more amenable to ayton than KAT


I’m just glad no one wants Vuc anymore
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Post#140 » by aggo » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:32 pm

epics2002 wrote:
aggo wrote:beyond gross that people seem more amenable to ayton than KAT


KAT is a defensive liabiity no thank you

ayton has an effort liability.

which everyone can see on the court.


he also has an effort liability off the court where he wont leave his house because of bad weather.

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