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Red Vines wrote:We need a system that maximizes KAT's scoring ability or trade him.
this is true; you can't pay the guy max money on the next contract to just be merely like this...this is sheer incompetence
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Stop giving that sex offender attention.
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JXL wrote:Here's a question, were the Knicks planning for Brown before this game at all? Did they watch film on the 1 Orlando game they won in Game 2 in the 1st round?
I think the approach was ... JT is out, so they'll do something different and the game will tell me what to do
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I know the first instinct is to blame the coach, but if you listen to the players, there was a clear lack of communication and defensive breakdowns that shouldn’t be happening this late in the season. Not sure why the execution was so poor, but if the players are taking ownership, maybe us fans should do the same
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I feel like I have been piling on Hart a lot lately but sometimes it is glaring how difficult he makes it for others to get into a rhythm with his defender constantly roaming around the paint. He had another very good shooting game by his standards and the Celtics just don't care. Kornet had 7 blocks. 2 of them on Hart and 5 of them while ignoring Hart defensively and he impacted multiple other half court possessions.
The team has 2 huge weak links defensively in Brunson and KAT. There are going to be games where they will just have to outscore their opponents. I would love to see what this team looks like with Hart in a slightly reduced role. The team doesn't have an offensive or defensive identity and Hart just doesn't feel like a game changer on either end of the court. Unless the plan is to just go back to the inefficient offense of previous years where they controlled the boards i'm not sure what Hart's role is in the starting lineup.
The team has 2 huge weak links defensively in Brunson and KAT. There are going to be games where they will just have to outscore their opponents. I would love to see what this team looks like with Hart in a slightly reduced role. The team doesn't have an offensive or defensive identity and Hart just doesn't feel like a game changer on either end of the court. Unless the plan is to just go back to the inefficient offense of previous years where they controlled the boards i'm not sure what Hart's role is in the starting lineup.
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Adelheid wrote:Red Vines wrote:We need a system that maximizes KAT's scoring ability or trade him.
this is true; you can't pay the guy max money on the next contract to just be merely like this...this is sheer incompetence
So if KAT is posting up and attacks right into the heart of the defense, not sure what you are expecting, with that said it’s KAT’s defensive deficiencies is what in my feel will always keep his team back
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If they are rolling out with a double big lineup then why aren't we?! Hart really needs to be coming off the bench now.
Fire Thibs!
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KnicksGod wrote:JXL wrote:Here's a question, were the Knicks planning for Brown before this game at all? Did they watch film on the 1 Orlando game they won in Game 2 in the 1st round?
I think the approach was ... JT is out, so they'll do something different and the game will tell me what to do
i can imagine thibs saying that line
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snadler wrote:I know the first instinct is to blame the coach, but if you listen to the players, there was a clear lack of communication and defensive breakdowns that shouldn’t be happening this late in the season. Not sure why the execution was so poor, but if the players are taking ownership, maybe us fans should do the same
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I still for the life of me can't understand why KAT is in the game if we never get him the ball? He isn't out there for defense, get him so touches on the block.
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KnicksGod wrote:snadler wrote:I know the first instinct is to blame the coach, but if you listen to the players, there was a clear lack of communication and defensive breakdowns that shouldn’t be happening this late in the season. Not sure why the execution was so poor, but if the players are taking ownership, maybe us fans should do the same
Correct. Both coach and players deserve blame.
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KnicksGod wrote:Hart ball watches instead of seeing his man and the ball … then he rushes to close after it is too late
I guess he is cheating for a steal or to stop the drive … but he’s also asleep and a coach, a good coach, could instruct otherwise
He’s ball watching because he’s thirsting for rebounds and waiting for a shot to go up to crash the glass
I don’t know why we even put him on guys who are real threats. White probably had 5 wide open 3’s off hart being an idiot like he isn’t the best player on the Celtics.
What the hell was the game plan if it wasn’t almost entirely focused on white? Jaylen brown isn’t gonna beat us by himself and he hobbled. Who gives a damn what he does. He isn’t getting 40 or 50. Just stick to Derrick white like he’s curry because he quite literally is a better spot up shooter than curry at this point in their careers.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?
so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Red Vines wrote:We need a system that maximizes KAT's scoring ability or trade him.
This. I picture an offense that flows through Kat, and he's a good passer too. More guys would be involved, in the flow. It would mean fewer isos for JB. He is amazing when he's hot but it takes teammates out of the flow. It would be better to have ball movement. But it requires a new coach to make it happen
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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We actually were up like 7 or something and then Boston turned on the jets
A team that adapts to losing a star, but that still has some very good talent, is dangerous ... so that played a role, but we don't seem to have a floor beneath which we won't go ... I've never seen a team like that deserve to be in a conference finals
A team that adapts to losing a star, but that still has some very good talent, is dangerous ... so that played a role, but we don't seem to have a floor beneath which we won't go ... I've never seen a team like that deserve to be in a conference finals
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Jalen Bluntson wrote:Third quarter was the worst excuse for a playoff officiating I have ever seen. OG disappeared. This is what happens when you don't really run any sets. Hunt and Peck off ISO ball. No ,matter who gets the ball. They don't get into any rhythm where there motions/actions are for a purpose to get a guy his shot.
They got into rhythm and rolled away with the lead. They played our defense like a fiddle once the game swung their way. Fouls helped get them rolling,
Oh well. Still up 3-2. I'm not really upset. I actually had real life issues really make me angry this evening after work. I don't think I could get angry again for the day. Thibs sucks. Let's go Knicks.
20FTA in the third lol, how in the hell is that even possible?
Knicks win game 6 pretty comfortably
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JayTWill wrote:I feel like I have been piling on Hart a lot lately but sometimes it is glaring how difficult he makes it for others to get into a rhythm with his defender constantly roaming around the paint. He had another very good shooting game by his standards and the Celtics just don't care. Kornet had 7 blocks. 2 of them on Hart and 5 of them while ignoring Hart defensively and he impacted multiple other half court possessions.
The team has 2 huge weak links defensively in Brunson and KAT. There are going to be games where they will just have to outscore their opponents. I would love to see what this team looks like with Hart in a slightly reduced role. The team doesn't have an offensive or defensive identity and Hart just doesn't feel like a game changer on either end of the court. Unless the plan is to just go back to the inefficient offense of previous years where they controlled the boards i'm not sure what Hart's role is in the starting lineup.
they just let Hart roam free and live with the results. He hasnt shown that he is truly a deadly threat from range. But i do like his transition game. Problem is, knicks is mainly a halfcourt type of team.
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KnicksGod wrote:JXL wrote:Here's a question, were the Knicks planning for Brown before this game at all? Did they watch film on the 1 Orlando game they won in Game 2 in the 1st round?
I think the approach was ... JT is out, so they'll do something different and the game will tell me what to do
I think this is exactly it and let me add to it that Thibs sucks at in-game adjustments. It's only after a full @ss beating that he realizes what he might have to adjust for the next game. Look to see a much better played game 6 now that we got our Tatum-less @ss beating out the way and Thibs knows what to expect.
Fire Thibs!
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JXL wrote:KnicksGod wrote:snadler wrote:I know the first instinct is to blame the coach, but if you listen to the players, there was a clear lack of communication and defensive breakdowns that shouldn’t be happening this late in the season. Not sure why the execution was so poor, but if the players are taking ownership, maybe us fans should do the same
Correct. Both coach and players deserve blame.
Yeah but a good coach ensures his team is communicating, is on the same page
It's kind of a nonsensical statement
Coaching is organizing and ensuring breakdowns don't happen ... come hell or high water
They will happen, but not letting too many pile up and wreck you is ... a coach's job a little bit lol









