OT: Extremely Tough Riddle Challenge

[Jmonty580]

It says they kicked him out. How do we know the streetcar driver is a man? The riddle does not indicate that he is or isnt. Therefore it cant be the driver that got kicked out.

[gstevens]

He HAD a dollar, maybe he bought the drum and drumsticks after getting on the street car. I don't know anymore - this riddle is making me crazy...

[j4remi]

The riddle is not phrased; Why did the man get "kicked out" on block 10? That is how you are interpreting it. I do not believe there is anything special about block 10. The riddle is just establishing that the man exited the streetcar before traveling 13 blocks which is what he paid for. The riddle could just have easily used block 7 instead of block 10.

The first two sentences about spending his dollar and the specific mention of block 10 are only meant to confuse the reader or listener and lead them into misinterpreting what the riddle is truly asking. The most important part of the riddle is that the man was "kicked out." He did not get off the streetcar voluntarily. Why? Because he paid to go 13 blocks.

I'm telling you guys. This is the right answer...it has to be.

[jdennis187]

The riddle is not phrased; Why did the man get "kicked out" on block 10? That is how you are interpreting it. I do not believe there is anything special about block 10. The riddle is just establishing that the man exited the streetcar before traveling 13 blocks which is what he paid for. The riddle could just have easily used block 7 instead of block 10.

The first two sentences about spending his dollar and the specific mention of block 10 are only meant to confuse the reader or listener and lead them into misinterpreting what the riddle is truly asking. The most important part of the riddle is that the man was "kicked out." He did not get off the streetcar voluntarily. Why? Because he paid to go 13 blocks.

I'm telling you guys. This is the right answer...it has to be.

If its the answer than explain it better!

Why did the streetcar only drive 10 blocks than?

[Jmonty580]

The riddle is not phrased; Why did the man get "kicked out" on block 10? That is how you are interpreting it. I do not believe there is anything special about block 10. The riddle is just establishing that the man exited the streetcar before traveling 13 blocks which is what he paid for. The riddle could just have easily used block 7 instead of block 10.

The first two sentences about spending his dollar and the specific mention of block 10 are only meant to confuse the reader or listener and lead them into misinterpreting what the riddle is truly asking. The most important part of the riddle is that the man was "kicked out." He did not get off the streetcar voluntarily. Why? Because he paid to go 13 blocks.

I'm telling you guys. This is the right answer...it has to be.

If you read my posts it explains that that is not the answer. If it is you need to do a better job of explaining it, it doesnt make any sense to me.

Him paying to be driven 13 blocks and getting kicked out after 10 blocks does not explain why he got kicked out, or why he got kicked out after 10 blocks. If you answer one of those 2 you really answer both (depends on if the 10 is relevant or not).

[j4remi]

But his point is that the "why?" at the end of the riddle can be interpreted in different ways.

1. Why did they kick the man out?
2. Why did they have to kick the man out? That is, why didn't he go willingly.

If it's asking #2, the answer is that he had to be kicked out because he wanted to go further (13 blocks). Thus, he had to be kicked out, instead of just getting off on his own.

This is a simplified explanation of the answer, if you guys still don't get it I could try and explain it again when I get home from work.

[jdennis187]

I hear you:

Why did they have to kick him out?

Because he paid for 13 blocks, and asked him to leave at the tenth block!

If that is the answer it is a stupid riddle, although in some sense it fits the clue, that he tells you the answer every time he says the riddle.

[Jmonty580]

But his point is that the "why?" at the end of the riddle can be interpreted in different ways.

1. Why did they kick the man out?
2. Why did they have to kick the man out? That is, why didn't he go willingly.

If it's asking #2, the answer is that he had to be kicked out because he wanted to go further (13 blocks). Thus, he had to be kicked out, instead of just getting off on his own.

This is a simplified explanation of the answer, if you guys still don't get it I could try and explain it again when I get home from work.

LOL, im sorry but that makes no sense. first off there really is no difference between 1 and 2. Lets say they he was drunk, and 1. they kicked him off because he was drunk. 2. they HAD to kicked him off because he was drunk and bothering other passengers. Its really the samething, one is just slightly more detailed than the other. And for 2. just because they HAVE to kick the man out doesnt mean that he didnt go willingly. They had to kick him out because he was drunk and bothering passengers, and when they said leave, he willingly left.

Then he says if its 2. he had to be kicked off because he wanted to go further (13 blocks). Thus, he had to be kicked out, instead of just getting out on his own. well that makes no sense. Why would the Streetcar driver take a dime to drive him 13 blocks, only to turn around and kick him out after 10? is he implying that the Streetcar only runs 10 blocks? If so, how do you know that? Its not in the riddle anywhere. And it wouldnt make sense for the street car driver to take a dime to drive him 13 blocks when he cant go 13 blocks. Its like paying delta to 100 bucks to fly you from Ny to california, and they land in Nevada and kick you out. And the reason is because they dont fly to california. lol then why take my money with the understanding that Im flying to california?

[Jmonty580]

I hear you:

Why did they have to kick him out?

Because he paid for 13 blocks, and asked him to leave at the tenth block!

If that is the answer it is a stupid riddle, although in some sense it fits the clue, that he tells you the answer every time he says the riddle.

Exactly, thats like when a kid says why, and the response is because. But why? because. If thats the answer to the riddle, its the weakest riddle i've ever heard.

[Menyun]

I thought of another solution. What if you pause before saying the final part? The man had a dollar. He bought some junk. He road on a streetcar. He got kicked off. Wait for it.

Why?

Answer; the man had a dollar. Because the man had a dollar, everything else happened.

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

But his point is that the "why?" at the end of the riddle can be interpreted in different ways.

1. Why did they kick the man out?
2. Why did they have to kick the man out? That is, why didn't he go willingly.

If it's asking #2, the answer is that he had to be kicked out because he wanted to go further (13 blocks). Thus, he had to be kicked out, instead of just getting off on his own.

This is a simplified explanation of the answer, if you guys still don't get it I could try and explain it again when I get home from work.

LOL, im sorry but that makes no sense. first off there really is no difference between 1 and 2. Lets say they he was drunk, and 1. they kicked him off because he was drunk. 2. they HAD to kicked him off because he was drunk and bothering other passengers. Its really the samething, one is just slightly more detailed than the other. And for 2. just because they HAVE to kick the man out doesnt mean that he didnt go willingly. They had to kick him out because he was drunk and bothering passengers, and when they said leave, he willingly left.

Then he says if its 2. he had to be kicked off because he wanted to go further (13 blocks). Thus, he had to be kicked out, instead of just getting out on his own. well that makes no sense. Why would the Streetcar driver take a dime to drive him 13 blocks, only to turn around and kick him out after 10? is he implying that the Streetcar only runs 10 blocks? If so, how do you know that? Its not in the riddle anywhere. And it wouldnt make sense for the street car driver to take a dime to drive him 13 blocks when he cant go 13 blocks. Its like paying delta to 100 bucks to fly you from Ny to california, and they land in Nevada and kick you out. And the reason is because they dont fly to california. lol then why take my money with the understanding that Im flying to california?

I'm not saying that this answer is the correct one; I was just trying to explain what he meant by it. Perhaps j4remi can do a better job, or the dude that original suggested this solution.

These two questions are not equivalent:
1. Why did they kick him off?
2. Why didn't he leave willingly?

Here's an example. If I steal $50 from Stephon Marbury, the question "why did I steal from Marbury?" could be answered by something like "I need the money for food", "because I'm a bully", "because I hate Marbury", etc. Those are reasons for my actions. However, the answer to the question "why did the money have to be stolen from Marbury?", or rather "why didn't Marbury just willingly give me the money?" would have a different answer. Probably something like "because he earned the money and didn't want to give it to me", "because he wanted to keep his money to buy some sneakers", "because he hates giving money to people", etc. Those are reasons for his actions.

Similarly, the question about why they kicked him off would have an answer related to their actions, while the questions about why he had to be force-ably kicked off has an answer related to his actions.

I apologize if that doesn't make sense. Again, I'm not saying this is the correct solution. I'm only trying to clarify what I think the other poster was trying to say.

[Duhon2Lee42]

GONYK, how would we know the right answer even if we got it? And if only one of this guy's family members knows the answer, then I would assume that no one has been able to figure it out since WWII ??? Cus if someone did, then obviously there would be no need to pass it along on someone's deathbed, the cat would be outta the bag...

His aunt knows the answer. She will confirm it if I think an answer is right.

So you, yourself don't know? wtf?

[runnyc]

I thought of another solution. What if you pause before saying the final part? The man had a dollar. He bought some junk. He road on a streetcar. He got kicked off. Wait for it.

Why?

Answer; the man had a dollar. Because the man had a dollar, everything else happened.

Sounds good to me. Let's lock this baby up.

[Duhon2Lee42]

I can't believe you guys are still spinning your wheels on this 'riddle' knowing that EVEN IF you did get something you could call an ANSWER, you will never know if its really the answer or not.

I will bet that there is no answer, and when the person who knows the secret is on his death bed, and one of his relatives asks him to impart the elusive answer to this riddle that has stumped their family and friends, the dude will laugh and say there is no answer...and say something to the effect of "the riddle is to remind you that no matter how much we think we know, we should always continue our own quest for knowledge and understanding." Or some total bullshyt like that.

Lmfao. Some movie type ish

[Duhon2Lee42]

I read this whole topic to be surprised by the answer, now I'm pissed off. I'm going outside

[j4remi]

I'll try to simplify but I doubt that I could.

A man had a dollar. He spent 80 cents for a drum and 10 cents for 2 drumsticks. He gave a streetcar driver a dime to drive him 13 blocks. On the tenth block they kicked him out. Why?

Hint: I tell you the answer every time I say the riddle.

The question asked is "Why?" It's extremely vague. Why would they give you all of those details and then such a vague question? It's all to throw you off. The important part of the entire riddle is "I tell you the answer every time I say the riddle." There's no extra activity, he wasn't drumming...he wasn't drunk...It HAS TO BE SAID IN THE RIDDLE.

So instead of asking "Why did he get kicked out?" as in "what's the reason" the riddle is actually asking "why did he get kicked out" as in "why didn't he just get off the bus...why'd he refuse to get off?" The simple answer is "he paid the driver to drive him 13 blocks." He wasn't getting off at 10 blocks because he wanted to go 13. That's directly taken from the riddle, so it fits the hint.

Again the key here is that "I tell you the answer every time I say the riddle." There was obviously a trick to it and calling it stupid after it's had us struggling for an answer this long isn't right. It might not even be the right answer, but it fits all the parameters of the riddle unlike every other answer we've come up with.

[can o peas]

so no one thought the answer I quoted from someone else was right? to put it into a clearer example, let's say the end of a streetcar's line was 12th street and after that it would reverse in its tracks and head back south. if the guy got on at houston street, it would be 12 blocks to 12th street and then 13 blocks when the streetcar reversed and went back down to 11th. by the time it went back down to 10th street that would be 14 blocks, 1 more than he paid for so they would kick him out. notice that the riddle doesn't say he got kicked out after 10 blocks, but that he got kicked out on the 10th block. I think that's important because it was the 10th block (10th street in this example but that is only to make it easier to see, it could be any number or name), but he had in fact traveled 14.

here is a picture of a streetcar just because:

[Dmiles37]

Post this on every board on realgm, this **** sucks. I thought I had the asnwer twice already.

[ccvle]

so no one thought the answer I quoted from someone else was right? to put it into a clearer example, let's say the end of a streetcar's line was 12th street and after that it would reverse in its tracks and head back south. if the guy got on at houston street, it would be 12 blocks to 12th street and then 13 blocks when the streetcar reversed and went back down to 11th. by the time it went back down to 10th street that would be 14 blocks, 1 more than he paid for so they would kick him out. notice that the riddle doesn't say he got kicked out after 10 blocks, but that he got kicked out on the 10th block. I think that's important because it was the 10th block (10th street in this example but that is only to make it easier to see, it could be any number or name), but he had in fact traveled 14.

here is a picture of a streetcar just because:

if thats the answer then what the drums and drumsticks have to do with it.

[NyKnicks1714]

Hmm this riddle started in the 40's. Is it possible that there's something about that era (something minor probably) one might need to know to solve it?