ImageImageImageImageImage

Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

User avatar
Gregory151
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,858
And1: 281
Joined: May 11, 2010
Location: New York City
     

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1201 » by Gregory151 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:16 pm

hes working out with Shawne right now..

ShawneWill3 Shawne Williams
@I_Am_Iman our new rookie got big surprises for knick fans next year he is something to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I_Am_Iman Iman Shumpert
“@ShawneWill3: @I_Am_Iman our new rookie got big surprises for knick fans next year he is something to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” daps big homie
"We’ll find a way to either make him a very useful player in our organization, or whatever"
NYman15
Veteran
Posts: 2,742
And1: 25
Joined: Oct 09, 2009
Location: Florida

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1202 » by NYman15 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:15 pm

Awesome! Great to hear. I think this kid is gonna surprise a lot of people next year. I can't wait to see what this kid can do next to Melo and Amare.
Falstaffxx
Banned User
Posts: 9,153
And1: 165
Joined: Sep 27, 2010

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1203 » by Falstaffxx » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:25 pm

Williams seems confident he'll remain a Knick. That's good.
User avatar
GONYK
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 66,998
And1: 45,769
Joined: Jun 27, 2003
Location: Brunson Gang
   

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1204 » by GONYK » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:49 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:Williams seems confident he'll remain a Knick. That's good.

He should. He said he's willing to take a paycut to stay.
BLACKFEET 2010
RealGM
Posts: 10,285
And1: 3,847
Joined: Jun 26, 2009

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1205 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:17 am

Gregory151 wrote:hes working out with Shawne right now..

ShawneWill3 Shawne Williams
@I_Am_Iman our new rookie got big surprises for knick fans next year he is something to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I_Am_Iman Iman Shumpert
“@ShawneWill3: @I_Am_Iman our new rookie got big surprises for knick fans next year he is something to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” daps big homie

This has me hyped.
I can picture both coming in off the bench, Shumpert digging into the paint and kicking out to SW1 for the high-percentage corner three.
User avatar
stuporman
RealGM
Posts: 32,043
And1: 21,058
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Location: optimistic skeptical realist

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1206 » by stuporman » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:02 am

I wonder what type of role Shump is trying to prepare for? To become more of a true shooting guard to fight for the SG spot against Landry? Or tighten up his PG skills in hopes of being more versatile in seeing the floor as a rookie at either both back court spots? Maybe a bit of both?

His skill set and complete game has me really intrigued.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
Image?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
User avatar
GONYK
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 66,998
And1: 45,769
Joined: Jun 27, 2003
Location: Brunson Gang
   

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1207 » by GONYK » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:46 am

stuporman wrote:I wonder what type of role Shump is trying to prepare for? To become more of a true shooting guard to fight for the SG spot against Landry? Or tighten up his PG skills in hopes of being more versatile in seeing the floor as a rookie at either both back court spots? Maybe a bit of both?

His skill set and complete game has me really intrigued.

Based on his own comments, it looks like he is trying to be a PG off the bench.
Pharmcat
RealGM
Posts: 56,841
And1: 19,334
Joined: Oct 05, 2002

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1208 » by Pharmcat » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:33 am

stuporman wrote:I wonder what type of role Shump is trying to prepare for? To become more of a true shooting guard to fight for the SG spot against Landry? Or tighten up his PG skills in hopes of being more versatile in seeing the floor as a rookie at either both back court spots? Maybe a bit of both?

His skill set and complete game has me really intrigued.


honestly, his role needs to be SG, cuz this team has no1 else for that role
Image
NYman15
Veteran
Posts: 2,742
And1: 25
Joined: Oct 09, 2009
Location: Florida

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1209 » by NYman15 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:52 pm

You're right but I'm thinking they would consider playing TD at the 2 at times with Iman running point and then having TD guard the 1 on D and Iman guard the 2. I think they'll have TD play the 2 at times.
Falstaffxx
Banned User
Posts: 9,153
And1: 165
Joined: Sep 27, 2010

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1210 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:44 pm

Shumpert/Douglas as a backcourt has a lot of defensive potential.
Dantares
Head Coach
Posts: 6,504
And1: 2,755
Joined: Oct 08, 2003

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1211 » by Dantares » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:25 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:Shumpert/Douglas as a backcourt has a lot of defensive potential.


yup, and I think it will work because Toney is such a great spot-up 3 point shooter. Don't be fooled by last year streaky shooting, Toney played with a torn labrum all season.
"No protectors here. No Lanterns. No Kryptonian. This world will fall like all the others."

Image
Falstaffxx
Banned User
Posts: 9,153
And1: 165
Joined: Sep 27, 2010

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1212 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:28 pm

When we go with a Billups/Shumpert backcourt, I hope Shumpert can be our Rondo-stopper.
truth serum
Banned User
Posts: 6,951
And1: 35
Joined: Apr 11, 2007
Location: New York

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1213 » by truth serum » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:46 pm

I love Shawne. I actually love this roster right now. Our back court is underrated with Shumpert in the fold because no one is expecting anything from him outside of Knicks brass and the fans.

Melo, Amar'e, Billups, Shumpert, Fields, Douglas, Shawne and Turiaf are all good players. I have confidence in all of them to play hard, play smart and to play well in general. Willy Walker is solid for the most part and we have Harrellson and Jordan to look forward to as well. They could surprise by being contributors right away.. mostly on the boards and defense. I actually wouldn't be surprised at all to see either of them do that this year. I'm not mad at this team one bit.

Shumpert has said many times now since being drafted that he is a PG. And he says it with conviction. Obviously, if Mike or the next potential coach see it differently, that could change....but if it's up to Iman, he's our future at the point which is what I prefer and what I'm excited for. If he proves that he can be a real point guard for us with all of the extra bells and whistles he brings (size and athleticism), then he and Toney could become a VERY nice tandem. In which case adding a guy like Dwight or any other solid defensive center like Bogut becomes the clear cut priority for the Knicks. We could actually be a solid center away from real contention with the roster we have right now.

No one expects that. From a distance, the Knicks are full of holes when I don't believe they really are. Shumpert has a lot to do with that.
User avatar
BBALLER4FR
RealGM
Posts: 19,539
And1: 8,480
Joined: May 05, 2004
Location: Not sure anymore.
   

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1214 » by BBALLER4FR » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:39 am

The only thing that would truly make me happy at this point is to know Landry is taking 500+ 3pt shots a day. I think Shump is gonna be a keeper and I know what everyone else will bring to the table:

Billups - Leadership
Amar'e - offensive domination (and occasional shotblocking)
Melo - Elite level shooting, rebounding and posting up at the wing
Turiaf - Shotblocking and toughness
Douglas/Shumpert - high intensity and energy on both sides of the ball
S. Will - defense and 3pt shooting at the 4
Walker - 3pt shooting from the bench
Harrelson/Jordan - getting used to the NBA 4/5 position

...but the 1 thing we absolutely need is a SG by definition. Landry needs to be that if he plans on surviving in NY. Think about Wilson Chandler and Gallinari. They never etched out a position for themselves (Gallo sometimes a 4 ...sometimes a 3. Chandlers sometimes a 3... sometimes a 4...occasionally a 2) so to get an elite level pure SF we moved 2 guys who had no real position. If Shumpert and Douglas are fighting for PG duties Landry needs to stake his claim as the undisputed SG.
Karl Anthony-Towms

There goes my hero. He's ordinary.
User avatar
TrueWarrior
RealGM
Posts: 19,103
And1: 8,519
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Behind You

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1215 » by TrueWarrior » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:59 am

truth serum wrote:I love Shawne. I actually love this roster right now. Our back court is underrated with Shumpert in the fold because no one is expecting anything from him outside of Knicks brass and the fans.

Melo, Amar'e, Billups, Shumpert, Fields, Douglas, Shawne and Turiaf are all good players. I have confidence in all of them to play hard, play smart and to play well in general. Willy Walker is solid for the most part and we have Harrellson and Jordan to look forward to as well. They could surprise by being contributors right away.. mostly on the boards and defense. I actually wouldn't be surprised at all to see either of them do that this year. I'm not mad at this team one bit.

Shumpert has said many times now since being drafted that he is a PG. And he says it with conviction. Obviously, if Mike or the next potential coach see it differently, that could change....but if it's up to Iman, he's our future at the point which is what I prefer and what I'm excited for. If he proves that he can be a real point guard for us with all of the extra bells and whistles he brings (size and athleticism), then he and Toney could become a VERY nice tandem. In which case adding a guy like Dwight or any other solid defensive center like Bogut becomes the clear cut priority for the Knicks. We could actually be a solid center away from real contention with the roster we have right now.

No one expects that. From a distance, the Knicks are full of holes when I don't believe they really are. Shumpert has a lot to do with that.


Im with you TS.

Ive lost interest in the Knicks this offseason with the lockout and have been focused on other things in my life, but Im starting to get that hoops itch again (besides the rash on my thighs from running.. ew) and lookin forward to seein our boys on the court again.

As far as my man Shumpert goes everyone has high hopes for him now because hes been saying all the right things and seems to have been puttin in the work. He even spits bars lol. Cant hate on anything hes doing. Who knows how he would have done in summer league, but Im actually kinda happy we had no summer league because posters take it too serious. Shump would have been in the same situation as GTech in Summer League and been forced to carry the team, so I dont know how well or efficient he would have been. A guy like Shump obviously shines in a workout setting with his athleticism and size on display which is why we drafted him, but Im anxious to see how he plays 5 on 5. I think it will help him for sure being a role player.

At the very least I see a defensive beast off the bench who can guard 2-3 positions feasting for us. If he adds even an average jumper I think hes our SG for the next 10 years. And if he proves to be able to run the team then we could have an All Star PG. Yea my optimism is tasting fruitylicious right now. F*ck it right? This is the first offseason in 10 years we should be guaranteed for the playoffs unless God hates us :pray:.
melo mvp 15
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,228
And1: 393
Joined: Apr 05, 2010
 

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1216 » by melo mvp 15 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:19 am

I'm so excited to see this guy play. There are so many different places we can plug him in. Chauncey/Iman can work well because both can play both guard positions and we can put Shump on the more athletic guard (Iman on Rondo for the Celtics, Rose for Chicago, Wade for Miami, etc.) (Billups on Allen, Bogans/Korver, Chalmers). That would be huge for Chauncey, really give him a lot of breaks and help prevent some injuries. Iman/Landry will be awesome hustling on every play and reek havoc on the break, that's a lot of size for the guard positions. Iman/Douglas could be interesting because both are feisty defenders and TD's limited to essentially a shooter and Iman is a slasher. There's also a good chance we add a veteran wing.
NYman15
Veteran
Posts: 2,742
And1: 25
Joined: Oct 09, 2009
Location: Florida

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1217 » by NYman15 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:48 am

I love the optimism! I agree with you guys. I loved the Iman pick and I agree I'm really excited to see this team play and I think Iman is going to surprise a lot of people.
truth serum
Banned User
Posts: 6,951
And1: 35
Joined: Apr 11, 2007
Location: New York

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1218 » by truth serum » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:30 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
truth serum wrote:I love Shawne. I actually love this roster right now. Our back court is underrated with Shumpert in the fold because no one is expecting anything from him outside of Knicks brass and the fans.

Melo, Amar'e, Billups, Shumpert, Fields, Douglas, Shawne and Turiaf are all good players. I have confidence in all of them to play hard, play smart and to play well in general. Willy Walker is solid for the most part and we have Harrellson and Jordan to look forward to as well. They could surprise by being contributors right away.. mostly on the boards and defense. I actually wouldn't be surprised at all to see either of them do that this year. I'm not mad at this team one bit.

Shumpert has said many times now since being drafted that he is a PG. And he says it with conviction. Obviously, if Mike or the next potential coach see it differently, that could change....but if it's up to Iman, he's our future at the point which is what I prefer and what I'm excited for. If he proves that he can be a real point guard for us with all of the extra bells and whistles he brings (size and athleticism), then he and Toney could become a VERY nice tandem. In which case adding a guy like Dwight or any other solid defensive center like Bogut becomes the clear cut priority for the Knicks. We could actually be a solid center away from real contention with the roster we have right now.

No one expects that. From a distance, the Knicks are full of holes when I don't believe they really are. Shumpert has a lot to do with that.


Im with you TS.

Ive lost interest in the Knicks this offseason with the lockout and have been focused on other things in my life, but Im starting to get that hoops itch again (besides the rash on my thighs from running.. ew) and lookin forward to seein our boys on the court again.

As far as my man Shumpert goes everyone has high hopes for him now because hes been saying all the right things and seems to have been puttin in the work. He even spits bars lol. Cant hate on anything hes doing. Who knows how he would have done in summer league, but Im actually kinda happy we had no summer league because posters take it too serious. Shump would have been in the same situation as GTech in Summer League and been forced to carry the team, so I dont know how well or efficient he would have been. A guy like Shump obviously shines in a workout setting with his athleticism and size on display which is why we drafted him, but Im anxious to see how he plays 5 on 5. I think it will help him for sure being a role player.

At the very least I see a defensive beast off the bench who can guard 2-3 positions feasting for us. If he adds even an average jumper I think hes our SG for the next 10 years. And if he proves to be able to run the team then we could have an All Star PG. Yea my optimism is tasting fruitylicious right now. F*ck it right? This is the first offseason in 10 years we should be guaranteed for the playoffs unless God hates us :pray:.


Hahahaha.. I'm rockin to that tune dude :rock:
Falstaffxx
Banned User
Posts: 9,153
And1: 165
Joined: Sep 27, 2010

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1219 » by Falstaffxx » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:06 pm

If Shumpert's defense lives up to expectations, he could cover any one of Rondo/Allen/Pierce vs. the Celtics.
NYman15
Veteran
Posts: 2,742
And1: 25
Joined: Oct 09, 2009
Location: Florida

Re: Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert 

Post#1220 » by NYman15 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:27 pm

Exactly. I'm sure they're hoping he is gonna be their"stopper" on defense and guard guys like Rose, Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Wade, Lebron among others. I believe after he was drafted D'antoni was quoted as saying he can guard the 1, 2, and 3 positions. Kid has lots of potential .

Return to New York Knicks