OT: Democratic Primary Thread

[thebuzzardman]

They clearly pumped him up with something for that last debate with Bernie. It was amazing. The Joe Biden who was barely able to string two thought together was suddenly up there sounding like Winston Churchill.

I've stated many times on here and other places that I'm convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that Trump is in fact taking speed.

Could it be the methamphetamine or amphetamine version? Either one.

Dilated pupils under super bright TV kleig lights.
Rambling talk and inability to stay on topic
Boastful talk worse than that cokehead who corners you at a party
Tons of energy for a septuagenarian fat bast*rd with a sh*t diet
Bad skin
Sniffling and snuffling constantly

I've been around enough users of all the various stimulants. I've enjoyed them myself, thank you very much.
This guy is a user.
Plain as day.

But he's have to crash out bad at some point, right? I was never my thing so I'm not sure what the side effects are, etc. My understanding was that it was Aderall. But I never took that either, unfortunately. Maybe with some Aderall, I could've gotten in Harvard or become a better guitarist.

So check this out just for laughs. It's a review of Biden's virtual town hall yesterday. If you even just watch the first minute. What a disaster. This is how he going to beat Trump?

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Joe Biden could sh*t his pants and not notice during his televised debates with Trump and I'd still vote for him. At least I know there would be a sane cabinet around him.

I worry about his elect-ability, sure. And he's not exactly what the country needs, nor was he my first, second, third or even fourth choice. If we include people who didn't even run who I'd rather be president (looking at you Katie Porter), the number gets up to at least five. But he's running against Trump so I'll take that, for now. Yes, it's same old etc. I get that. I guess I could buy the argument "well, I won't support a politician I don't like" and "he's another neoliberal" or whatever. Trump is that bad I'd vote for just about anyone who is opposite him on the ticket. Not a fan of Biden; four more years of Trump would be very bad news.
Then again, I've been curious as to what it's like to live in a failed state, so hey, four more years!

[HarthorneWingo]

I've stated many times on here and other places that I'm convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that Trump is in fact taking speed.

Could it be the methamphetamine or amphetamine version? Either one.

Dilated pupils under super bright TV kleig lights.
Rambling talk and inability to stay on topic
Boastful talk worse than that cokehead who corners you at a party
Tons of energy for a septuagenarian fat bast*rd with a sh*t diet
Bad skin
Sniffling and snuffling constantly

I've been around enough users of all the various stimulants. I've enjoyed them myself, thank you very much.
This guy is a user.
Plain as day.

But he's have to crash out bad at some point, right? I was never my thing so I'm not sure what the side effects are, etc. My understanding was that it was Aderall. But I never took that either, unfortunately. Maybe with some Aderall, I could've gotten in Harvard or become a better guitarist.

So check this out just for laughs. It's a review of Biden's virtual town hall yesterday. If you even just watch the first minute. What a disaster. This is how he going to beat Trump?

Watch on YouTube

Joe Biden could sh*t his pants and not notice during his televised debates with Trump and I'd still vote for him. At least I know there would be a sane cabinet around him.

I worry about his elect-ability, sure. And he's not exactly what the country needs, nor was he my first, second, third or even fourth choice. If we include people who didn't even run who I'd rather be president (looking at you Katie Porter), the number gets up to at least five. But he's running against Trump so I'll take that, for now. Yes, it's same old etc. I get that. I guess I could buy the argument "well, I won't support a politician I don't like" and "he's another neoliberal" or whatever. Trump is that bad I'd vote for just about anyone who is opposite him on the ticket. Not a fan of Biden; four more years of Trump would be very bad news.
Then again, I've been curious as to what it's like to live in a failed state, so hey, four more years!

I want Trump out yesterday too, obviously. He’s insane. I also agree that there will be sane people around Biden if he wins. Not my kind of people, but okay. And if I were the deciding vote in an Biden v. Trump election I wouldn’t hesitate to vote for Biden. I just don’t think he pulls this off and there is still time to make a change and replace him with someone mentally competent.If we roll with Biden, I’m afraid he’ll lose.

[Pointgod]

Imagine this **** commenting on anyone else’s mental competency. What a complete whiny piece of ****. Only a delusional moron would think Trump is some sort of tough guy instead of a complete joke to every sane person and the rest of the world.

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[HarthorneWingo]

Tom Rogers is an editor-at-large for Newsweek, the founder of CNBC and a CNBC contributor. He also established MSNBC, is the former CEO of TiVo, currently executive chairman of WinView, and is former senior counsel to a congressional committee.

https://www.newsweek.com/words-matter-joe-biden-needs-use-his-better-opinion-1502833?amp=1

The question is, What happens when that spotlight shifts? And it will.

As we move toward Election Day, Biden will no longer be able to let Trump do the talking. He will have to come out and present the case against Trump himself, as well as his vision for the future. The last two Democrats to win the White House, Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, connected with the American people in large part because they were strong orators.

Although Trump cannot be accused of being a strong orator, he does know how to communicate with his base in a way that connects to their passions. His words may often turn off the rest of the country, but he lights up the 46 percent or so of Americans who support him by playing verbal chords and resonant themes that create an emotional bond between him and his supporters.

By contrast, Biden's television appearances—consisting mostly of softball interviews (outside of those dealing with the sexual harassment allegations) that ask for his critique of the president's leadership during the pandemic—have been way below an acceptable level for somebody who is leading the charge in perhaps the most important election of our lifetime.

I am troubled to have to say this, but it has to be said: Biden must improve his unscripted speaking. There is nothing more urgent for his campaign aides to address.

Biden has proved that money is not going to define his chances. He was outspent by most of the other leading Democratic presidential contenders, and yet he won. Against Trump, he has the advantage of his policy positions being more in line with a majority of Americans, from gun safety to abortion to climate change to health care. People view him as empathetic and someone who relates well to American workers.

However, Biden is up against an opponent whose most potent weapon is his ability to drive free media by spoken word and tweeted phrases that stir passion. When it comes to the small slice of decisive swing independents in Wisconsin, Arizona, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania—not to mention young voters, particularly those who may have supported Bernie Sanders—can he be sufficiently convincing if he cannot articulate his thoughts more clearly?

When Biden is talking with a teleprompter, he commands the situation much better than Trump. But in his living room media appearances so far, he stumbles, fails to complete sentences, searches for words, repeats the same points, has difficulty hitting the right points and does not take points to a deeper level, making his comments seem overly general and superficial.

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[8516knicks]

Tom Rogers is an editor-at-large for Newsweek, the founder of CNBC and a CNBC contributor. He also established MSNBC, is the former CEO of TiVo, currently executive chairman of WinView, and is former senior counsel to a congressional committee.

https://www.newsweek.com/words-matter-joe-biden-needs-use-his-better-opinion-1502833?amp=1

The question is, What happens when that spotlight shifts? And it will.

As we move toward Election Day, Biden will no longer be able to let Trump do the talking. He will have to come out and present the case against Trump himself, as well as his vision for the future. The last two Democrats to win the White House, Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, connected with the American people in large part because they were strong orators.

Although Trump cannot be accused of being a strong orator, he does know how to communicate with his base in a way that connects to their passions. His words may often turn off the rest of the country, but he lights up the 46 percent or so of Americans who support him by playing verbal chords and resonant themes that create an emotional bond between him and his supporters.

By contrast, Biden's television appearances—consisting mostly of softball interviews (outside of those dealing with the sexual harassment allegations) that ask for his critique of the president's leadership during the pandemic—have been way below an acceptable level for somebody who is leading the charge in perhaps the most important election of our lifetime.

I am troubled to have to say this, but it has to be said: Biden must improve his unscripted speaking. There is nothing more urgent for his campaign aides to address.

Biden has proved that money is not going to define his chances. He was outspent by most of the other leading Democratic presidential contenders, and yet he won. Against Trump, he has the advantage of his policy positions being more in line with a majority of Americans, from gun safety to abortion to climate change to health care. People view him as empathetic and someone who relates well to American workers.

However, Biden is up against an opponent whose most potent weapon is his ability to drive free media by spoken word and tweeted phrases that stir passion. When it comes to the small slice of decisive swing independents in Wisconsin, Arizona, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania—not to mention young voters, particularly those who may have supported Bernie Sanders—can he be sufficiently convincing if he cannot articulate his thoughts more clearly?

When Biden is talking with a teleprompter, he commands the situation much better than Trump. But in his living room media appearances so far, he stumbles, fails to complete sentences, searches for words, repeats the same points, has difficulty hitting the right points and does not take points to a deeper level, making his comments seem overly general and superficial.

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[8516knicks]

Weird - cut off my response and said I posted it 27 minutes earlier!?

Trump has infantilized politics with his snappy childish characterizations like "Little Marco."

So I'd love Biden to simply copy Trump's key catchphrases like --"Maybe you should ask -- CHHHHina!"
(with Biden deploying it like Monty Python's classic "Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!")

--and throw it out there frequently, along with a camera "take", as if he's performing on SNL.

Along with some alternates like "That's a nasty question."

Trump turned Politics into reality TV. Biden should meta-turn it back on itself by parroting Trump and making fun of him at the same time. Don't think he could handle that. Especially in a debate.

Like when kids play checkers by simply aping the other persons move so they're playing against themselves.
What would Trump do then? What would the media do?

[dukeknicksirish]

Trump will dog walk Joe Biden in a debate. I dont understand why there aren't any better candidates than Joe Biden and Socialist Bernie ... Where are the young candidates that understand how the culture works nowdays and aren't 80 years old or have a history of being innapropriate with women?

Tulsi was the wayyyyyy better choice

[Knick4Real]

Trump will dog walk Joe Biden in a debate. I dont understand why there aren't any better candidates than Joe Biden and Socialist Bernie ... Where are the young candidates that understand how the culture works nowdays and aren't 80 years old or have a history of being innapropriate with women?

Tulsi was the wayyyyyy better choice

In light of the virus, it's very likely there will be no debates this year. Expect campaigning to take on a whole new look and feel.

[Knick4Real]

Tom Rogers is an editor-at-large for Newsweek, the founder of CNBC and a CNBC contributor. He also established MSNBC, is the former CEO of TiVo, currently executive chairman of WinView, and is former senior counsel to a congressional committee.

https://www.newsweek.com/words-matter-joe-biden-needs-use-his-better-opinion-1502833?amp=1

The question is, What happens when that spotlight shifts? And it will.

As we move toward Election Day, Biden will no longer be able to let Trump do the talking. He will have to come out and present the case against Trump himself, as well as his vision for the future. The last two Democrats to win the White House, Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, connected with the American people in large part because they were strong orators.

Although Trump cannot be accused of being a strong orator, he does know how to communicate with his base in a way that connects to their passions. His words may often turn off the rest of the country, but he lights up the 46 percent or so of Americans who support him by playing verbal chords and resonant themes that create an emotional bond between him and his supporters.

By contrast, Biden's television appearances—consisting mostly of softball interviews (outside of those dealing with the sexual harassment allegations) that ask for his critique of the president's leadership during the pandemic—have been way below an acceptable level for somebody who is leading the charge in perhaps the most important election of our lifetime.

I am troubled to have to say this, but it has to be said: Biden must improve his unscripted speaking. There is nothing more urgent for his campaign aides to address.

Biden has proved that money is not going to define his chances. He was outspent by most of the other leading Democratic presidential contenders, and yet he won. Against Trump, he has the advantage of his policy positions being more in line with a majority of Americans, from gun safety to abortion to climate change to health care. People view him as empathetic and someone who relates well to American workers.

However, Biden is up against an opponent whose most potent weapon is his ability to drive free media by spoken word and tweeted phrases that stir passion. When it comes to the small slice of decisive swing independents in Wisconsin, Arizona, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania—not to mention young voters, particularly those who may have supported Bernie Sanders—can he be sufficiently convincing if he cannot articulate his thoughts more clearly?

When Biden is talking with a teleprompter, he commands the situation much better than Trump. But in his living room media appearances so far, he stumbles, fails to complete sentences, searches for words, repeats the same points, has difficulty hitting the right points and does not take points to a deeper level, making his comments seem overly general and superficial.

-more-

Without live campaign events, Biden might get away with not having to do much off-the-cuff speaking, which will work to his advantage. The virus will recreate how politicians campaign, which will be different than ever before. Expect more scripted online events and filmed commercial spots. Also, once Biden picks a running mate he can allow her to do most if not all of the spontaneous speaking.

[Knick4Real]

Joe Biden could sh*t his pants and not notice during his televised debates with Trump and I'd still vote for him. At least I know there would be a sane cabinet around him.

I worry about his elect-ability, sure. And he's not exactly what the country needs, nor was he my first, second, third or even fourth choice. If we include people who didn't even run who I'd rather be president (looking at you Katie Porter), the number gets up to at least five. But he's running against Trump so I'll take that, for now. Yes, it's same old etc. I get that. I guess I could buy the argument "well, I won't support a politician I don't like" and "he's another neoliberal" or whatever. Trump is that bad I'd vote for just about anyone who is opposite him on the ticket. Not a fan of Biden; four more years of Trump would be very bad news.
Then again, I've been curious as to what it's like to live in a failed state, so hey, four more years!

I'd vote for Mr. Hankey from SOUTH PARK before I'd ever vote for Trump!!

[HarthorneWingo]

Tom Rogers is an editor-at-large for Newsweek, the founder of CNBC and a CNBC contributor. He also established MSNBC, is the former CEO of TiVo, currently executive chairman of WinView, and is former senior counsel to a congressional committee.

https://www.newsweek.com/words-matter-joe-biden-needs-use-his-better-opinion-1502833?amp=1

The question is, What happens when that spotlight shifts? And it will.

As we move toward Election Day, Biden will no longer be able to let Trump do the talking. He will have to come out and present the case against Trump himself, as well as his vision for the future. The last two Democrats to win the White House, Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, connected with the American people in large part because they were strong orators.

Although Trump cannot be accused of being a strong orator, he does know how to communicate with his base in a way that connects to their passions. His words may often turn off the rest of the country, but he lights up the 46 percent or so of Americans who support him by playing verbal chords and resonant themes that create an emotional bond between him and his supporters.

By contrast, Biden's television appearances—consisting mostly of softball interviews (outside of those dealing with the sexual harassment allegations) that ask for his critique of the president's leadership during the pandemic—have been way below an acceptable level for somebody who is leading the charge in perhaps the most important election of our lifetime.

I am troubled to have to say this, but it has to be said: Biden must improve his unscripted speaking. There is nothing more urgent for his campaign aides to address.

Biden has proved that money is not going to define his chances. He was outspent by most of the other leading Democratic presidential contenders, and yet he won. Against Trump, he has the advantage of his policy positions being more in line with a majority of Americans, from gun safety to abortion to climate change to health care. People view him as empathetic and someone who relates well to American workers.

However, Biden is up against an opponent whose most potent weapon is his ability to drive free media by spoken word and tweeted phrases that stir passion. When it comes to the small slice of decisive swing independents in Wisconsin, Arizona, North Carolina, Iowa, Florida, Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania—not to mention young voters, particularly those who may have supported Bernie Sanders—can he be sufficiently convincing if he cannot articulate his thoughts more clearly?

When Biden is talking with a teleprompter, he commands the situation much better than Trump. But in his living room media appearances so far, he stumbles, fails to complete sentences, searches for words, repeats the same points, has difficulty hitting the right points and does not take points to a deeper level, making his comments seem overly general and superficial.

-more-

Without live campaign events, Biden might get away with not having to do much off-the-cuff speaking, which will work to his advantage. The virus will recreate how politicians campaign, which will be different than ever before. Expect more scripted online events and filmed commercial spots. Also, once Biden picks a running mate he can allow her to do most if not all of the spontaneous speaking.

I dunno. I'm concerned about the lack of enthusiasm for Biden will play out just it did with Hillary who had better numbers in that category. I know Biden is up over Trump is the state and national polling but so was Hillary.

[HarthorneWingo]

Imagine this **** commenting on anyone else’s mental competency. What a complete whiny piece of ****. Only a delusional moron would think Trump is some sort of tough guy instead of a complete joke to every sane person and the rest of the world.

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Absolutely. I saw that China found 6 more cases in Wuhan and now will test all 11 million people in like 2 weeks.

[Pointgod]

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[8516knicks]

Trump will dog walk Joe Biden in a debate. I dont understand why there aren't any better candidates than Joe Biden and Socialist Bernie ... Where are the young candidates that understand how the culture works nowdays and aren't 80 years old or have a history of being innapropriate with women?

Tulsi was the wayyyyyy better choice

Didn't she grow up in a cult or something?

[8516knicks]

Imagine this **** commenting on anyone else’s mental competency. What a complete whiny piece of ****. Only a delusional moron would think Trump is some sort of tough guy instead of a complete joke to every sane person and the rest of the world.

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Absolutely. I saw that China found 6 more cases in Wuhan and now will test all 11 million people in like 2 weeks.

Are they going to be grading on a curve?

[j4remi]

Progressive gang, Kara Eastman put up some really nice numbers yesterday. AOC's endorsement list here has gotten results:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-pac/index.html

and she's on the climate commission for Joe Biden's Unity Task Forces. Those Committees are worth talking about too fam.

[Phish Tank]

Progressive gang, Kara Eastman put up some really nice numbers yesterday. AOC's endorsement list here has gotten results:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-pac/index.html

and she's on the climate commission for Joe Biden's Unity Task Forces. Those Committees are worth talking about too fam.

The Eastman battle will be interesting to follow. I think she can beat Bacon and she'll have the DCCC behind her this time.

[HarthorneWingo]

Progressive gang, Kara Eastman put up some really nice numbers yesterday. AOC's endorsement list here has gotten results:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-pac/index.html

and she's on the climate commission for Joe Biden's Unity Task Forces. Those Committees are worth talking about too fam.

We won't know the legitimacy of something like this until we find out what kind of money will be devoted to whatever new policies AOC and Task Force comes up with. My concern is that this is more for dog and pony to hoodwink Bernie's voting block to join the Biden ranks and then, once Biden is in office, he'll be like "Who are you?"

[HarthorneWingo]

In other breaking news:

Judge Emmitt Sullivan ain’t playing no games. I had a feeling he’d wouldn’t let Flynn out of this.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/judge-weighs-holding-michael-flynn-contempt-trump_n_5ebc7932c5b6dfbab78226b7

[GONYK]

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