HEZI wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:HEZI wrote:
None of those guys are guarded by PGs. They all play forward but with PG duties. No opposing team is putting their PG on those guys so really it doesn't matter.
Lonzo Ball is 6'7"and it means very little. The best NBA PGs are all still mostly under 6'5" so meh the 6'7" stuff is just one of those overrated things people go crazy about just like wingspan
Teams switch, trap, help, double, etc. When you get into the lane there are going to be bigs. It's without a doubt an advantage when you have more size. Doesn't mean smaller guys can't be good, or every 6'7" guy is great. Just makes things easier when you have more size with PG skills.
Most 6'7"+ guys dont handle and pass like that though so its one of the reasons you dont see many big PGs. But when they do and have some skills/athletiscm they are often great players...Giannis, Bron, Luka, Simmons, etc. Size + skill is a recipe for success. Can even see it with RJ when he is handling the ball and using his size. He doesnt have that level of passing/handling but can still see how he uses his size at times even as a passer.
Ball can still be a bust and has a lot of work to do. Plenty of players have good length and size and suck. Still needs to learn to use his size better, def needs to increase his efficient, jumper and clean up a lot of things. But I think if he does put it all together his size help gives him a really high ceiling.
Lamelo Ball doesn't compare to any of those guys because he's not like them in any way. And like I said before he can't play off the ball or at another position which restricts you to only playing him at the 1 because he's useless anywhere else which pretty much limits you, unlike with those other guys you brought up who can switch to different positions. Not to mention that with the exception of Doncic, those guys are all good defenders whereas Lamelo just isn't and he's the opposite of it.
Lamelo's height isn't something that intrigues me personally but it's a selling point for a lot of other people though, I'm just not buying it as a difference making attribute.
I just don't see a dog in him. That want to beat you mentality, someone that wants to take over at any second when needed. He's too soft.
I mean 6'0 iverson was good enough to be the league mvp in a league with duncans and kobes and shaqs so 6'7 iverson assuming he had all the same ability and speed at that size would have also been at minimum good enough to be considered the best player in the NBA for a year. if westbrook were taller with all other things equal he'd be a lot better too, you can pretty much apply that to any player really that was the overall thrust of the argument
