Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[Lord Commander]

Knicks get: Bridges
Nets get: Mitchell
Cavs get: 2 Knicks first rounders this year, Bucks pick, Pistons pick, 2 more future Knick first rounders, Bojan, Cam Thomas

I would do that!! Does it work in the trade checker?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Nah I think he you to treat him like Bynum and just keep him healthy and in shape until the playoffs. They probably need a upgrade on Sims/Precious as a third center.

You can't have a team with OG and Mitch, two injury prone players being part of your core isn't going to work. It's dead money, spend less on a backup C and get another wing/guard.

The problem is that we're over the cap more or less regardless

Say you manage to trade Mitch and get no salary back for next year, we'd be at 93 million between Randle, Brunson, Hart, DiVo, Sims, and McBride. You need to bring back OG, best case scenario for our cap next year would be opt-in and extend, so that gets us up to 113 million between those 7 guys (assuming we waive Bojan, we keep $2 million on the books). That gives us at most $30 million to work with, and we'd have to renounce rights on everybody else to do it. $30 million plus 2 exceptions to fill out 8 spots (at least 4 of which have to be rotation players including at least one starter), that's a tough ask, and it assumes the best case scenario of OG opting in. If he opts out and needs to be re-signed, I believe his cap hit would be $30 million, so that leaves us with $10 million less, $5 million less than that if we keep both our picks, though to be fair you should assume both are part of the rotation so that means you'd have $15 million to find 2 rotation guys (most likely still need a starting C in this scenario as one of those rotation guys), as well as 4 end of bench guys. Best case scenario there is you find a starter for $15 million and a bench guy for the exception, but still that's a tricky ask

So in my opinion, Mitch's cap hit is kind of irrelevant, we shouldn't dump him to dump him, we should trade him for a better fitting piece, or one with a better contract/is healthier.

He needs to be traded, we cannot go into next season with two chronically injured players in the rotation, we saw how that ended this season. I wouldn't dump him, but I'd move him before it's too late and he would absolutely be a main point this summer.

[G_K_F]

I just want to say that PJ Washington was a real solid move that I wanted us to make. Although the cost of a future unprotected pick was a little crazy.

[DOT]

6 firsts for Mikal Bridges?

I mean, 2 are mid-20s, one is likely not gonna convey, but still

That's a lot for someone who's just good, not great. Plus I don't get it from Cleveland's perspective, they're trying to win now and D Mitch is the guy, if they trade him it's gonna be for another star, not picks.

[Meat]

6 firsts for Mikal Bridges?

I mean, 2 are mid-20s, one is likely not gonna convey, but still

That's a lot for someone who's just good, not great. Plus I don't get it from Cleveland's perspective, they're trying to win now and D Mitch is the guy, if they trade him it's gonna be for another star, not picks.

Cleveland doesn't have a choice, if Donovan says he's not going to re-up with them what are they going to do? get what they can

[rajajackal]

6 firsts for Mikal Bridges?

I mean, 2 are mid-20s, one is likely not gonna convey, but still

That's a lot for someone who's just good, not great. Plus I don't get it from Cleveland's perspective, they're trying to win now and D Mitch is the guy, if they trade him it's gonna be for another star, not picks.

it's a forgone conclusion that knicks will have to pay a premium if they want to dislodge mikal from barclays. if i'm overpaying for a player like him, which i would for this roster, i'd rather do it using too-many picks and salary fluff to get them a player from a third team (mitchell from cleveland) than trade randle or mitch. i'd want a robinson/randle/anunoby/bridges/brunson lineup with deuce, divo, hart, and a big off the bench. nobody would ever score over 100 on us ever again lol

[spree8]

I think the package we have to offer is only good enough if that star demands coming here specifically.

Even then, we still might have to get a 3rd team involved if the star’s team still wants to compete (like with Cleveland/Donovan, Clippers/PG, New Orleans/Ingram etc).

Only player we could probably trade that pick package straight up for is DeMar since the Bulls should be rebuilding anyway… team is cooked by injuries.

[KnicksGadfly]

6 firsts for Mikal Bridges?

I mean, 2 are mid-20s, one is likely not gonna convey, but still

That's a lot for someone who's just good, not great. Plus I don't get it from Cleveland's perspective, they're trying to win now and D Mitch is the guy, if they trade him it's gonna be for another star, not picks.

That's just nuts. If it takes that much to get Mikal, then we should move on.

[aggo]

6 firsts?

bro

[Fury]

Alright guys, half of those aren’t even real 1sts.

[Meat]

6 firsts for Mikal Bridges?

I mean, 2 are mid-20s, one is likely not gonna convey, but still

That's a lot for someone who's just good, not great. Plus I don't get it from Cleveland's perspective, they're trying to win now and D Mitch is the guy, if they trade him it's gonna be for another star, not picks.

That's just nuts. If it takes that much to get Mikal, then we should move on.

these arent real firsts,

[spree8]

Knicks get: Bridges
Nets get: Mitchell
Cavs get: 2 Knicks first rounders this year, Bucks pick, Pistons pick, 2 more future Knick first rounders, Bojan, Cam Thomas

I’d be tempted to just grab Donovan instead. Tough choice tho…

Mikal provides defense, length, chemistry (with the Nova guys), is always healthy, and likely a better fit when everyone’s available.

Donovan is a more prolific scorer, playmaker, shot creator, but has injury concerns… no doubt he’d be a better option if we lose Jalen or Julius come playoff time tho.

[sol537]

1) Mitchell has to first state, through Shams or Woj, that he has no intention of staying in CLE long term...

2) Then, he has to list at least 3-4 teams as his preferred destination where he'd re-sign. I'm guessing he may list BRK, NYK, MIA and maybe one more unrealistic one.

3) Then CLE has to get and weigh the best offers. They're going to want to be a young "win now" team like ORL so they'll want young vets and some picks that can help them now.

We can step in with: Mitch, Bogs, McBride, rights to Rokas, and 2024 #25, MIL 1st, DET 1st, NYK 1st Rounders, and a pick swap. It's not a "nothing" package. There's some legit NBA players there and plenty of picks that they can use to get more talent later.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

1) Mitchell has to first state, through Shams or Woj, that he has no intention of staying in CLE long term...

2) Then, he has to list at least 3-4 teams as his preferred destination where he'd re-sign. I'm guessing he may list BRK, NYK, MIA and maybe one more unrealistic one.

3) Then CLE has to get and weigh the best offers. They're going to want to be a young "win now" team like ORL so they'll want young vets and some picks that can help them now.

We can step in with: Mitch, Bogs, McBride, rights to Rokas, and 2024 #25, MIL 1st, DET 1st, NYK 1st Rounders, and a pick swap. It's not a "nothing" package. There's some legit NBA players there and plenty of picks that they can use to get more talent later.

And then, Houston swoops in and offers Green, Eason and 3 Nets firsts and gets him.

[sol537]

1) Mitchell has to first state, through Shams or Woj, that he has no intention of staying in CLE long term...

2) Then, he has to list at least 3-4 teams as his preferred destination where he'd re-sign. I'm guessing he may list BRK, NYK, MIA and maybe one more unrealistic one.

3) Then CLE has to get and weigh the best offers. They're going to want to be a young "win now" team like ORL so they'll want young vets and some picks that can help them now.

We can step in with: Mitch, Bogs, McBride, rights to Rokas, and 2024 #25, MIL 1st, DET 1st, NYK 1st Rounders, and a pick swap. It's not a "nothing" package. There's some legit NBA players there and plenty of picks that they can use to get more talent later.

And then, Houston swoops in and offers Green, Eason and 3 Nets firsts and gets him.

Possible! Though they risk him being just a rental... big risk...

[NoDopeOnSundays]

1) Mitchell has to first state, through Shams or Woj, that he has no intention of staying in CLE long term...

2) Then, he has to list at least 3-4 teams as his preferred destination where he'd re-sign. I'm guessing he may list BRK, NYK, MIA and maybe one more unrealistic one.

3) Then CLE has to get and weigh the best offers. They're going to want to be a young "win now" team like ORL so they'll want young vets and some picks that can help them now.

We can step in with: Mitch, Bogs, McBride, rights to Rokas, and 2024 #25, MIL 1st, DET 1st, NYK 1st Rounders, and a pick swap. It's not a "nothing" package. There's some legit NBA players there and plenty of picks that they can use to get more talent later.

And then, Houston swoops in and offers Green, Eason and 3 Nets firsts and gets him.

Possible! Though they risk him being just a rental... big risk...

We won't have caproom and neither will the Nets, it's why so many other teams are monitoring him, the Spurs and Rockets names have popped up in relation to him in the last few weeks.

I also think the Cavs may resign him and then move Garland & Allen while making him primary on ball.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Knicks get: Bridges
Nets get: Mitchell
Cavs get: 2 Knicks first rounders this year, Bucks pick, Pistons pick, 2 more future Knick first rounders, Bojan, Cam Thomas

I would do that!! Does it work in the trade checker?

Bojan 24 NYK FRP DAL 24 FRP MIL 25 FRP DET FRP 2 future NYK FRP for Mikal Bridges? That's emptying the cupboard for Mikal Bridges. In the meantime we are gifting BKN Donovan Mitchell? I don't think that's a very smart trade honestly.

[Wildcat]

Knicks get: Bridges
Nets get: Mitchell
Cavs get: 2 Knicks first rounders this year, Bucks pick, Pistons pick, 2 more future Knick first rounders, Bojan, Cam Thomas

I would do that!! Does it work in the trade checker?

Bojan 24 NYK FRP DAL 24 FRP MIL 25 FRP DET FRP 2 future NYK FRP for Mikal Bridges? That's pretty much emptying he cupboard for Mikal Bridges. In the meantime we are gifting BKN Donovan Mitchell? I don't think that's a very smart trade honestly.

It's not. It's a terrible trade idea.

[Fury]

I would do that!! Does it work in the trade checker?

Bojan 24 NYK FRP DAL 24 FRP MIL 25 FRP DET FRP 2 future NYK FRP for Mikal Bridges? That's pretty much emptying he cupboard for Mikal Bridges. In the meantime we are gifting BKN Donovan Mitchell? I don't think that's a very smart trade honestly.

It's not. It's a terrible trade idea.

Aight, relax Wildcat

[Lord Commander]

Knicks get: Bridges
Nets get: Mitchell
Cavs get: 2 Knicks first rounders this year, Bucks pick, Pistons pick, 2 more future Knick first rounders, Bojan, Cam Thomas

I would do that!! Does it work in the trade checker?

Bojan 24 NYK FRP DAL 24 FRP MIL 25 FRP DET FRP 2 future NYK FRP for Mikal Bridges? That's pretty much emptying he cupboard for Mikal Bridges. In the meantime we are gifting BKN Donovan Mitchell? I don't think that's a very smart trade honestly.

Yeah it's a slight overpay. Of the picks that are not our own, the Milwaukee 25 FRP MIGHT be very valuable, but the NY picks are virtual second rounders. IMHO Mitchell and Brunson wouldn't really mesh.