OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd

[GONYK]

Looks like the Browns are making a move for Cousins according to the Browns' Athletic beat reporter

basically everyone making a move for a QB except the titans. makes me think they're locked onto cam ward and other teams are kinda eh on shedeur

Titans may also be keeping the pick because they want Carter and know the Browns want Carter too.

Either way, the state of play is shaping up to have a QB on the board at 3. It seemingly comes down to whether or not Giants like Shedur.

[mpharris36]

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this is the guy that has broken nearly all of our stuff prior to it happening. He nailed the Adebo + Holland signings.

[GONYK]

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Titans may be pursuing Russ

[MrDollarBills]

The defense is starting to take shape

[MrDollarBills]

Really excited to see what Slayton can do with the Giants, great signing.

[GONYK]

so schoen lets mckinney walk because he isn't interested in paying safeties and a year later we sign a safety for big money, alright

yeah I'm not sure...process is kinda backwards...they did offer McKinney a deal and he turned it down along with Barkley. So they did value them to some extent but I think the ATV accident and him lying about it put a rift between the franchise and McKinney...can't be a leader and doing that on a bye week. Also with the cap going up the value of Holland contract is lower per year than McKinney.

But its a tough sell job to say Slayton and Holland for roughly around the same money is better than Barkley and McKinney.

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[MrDollarBills]

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Titans may be pursuing Russ

Tennessee is probably giving Schoen heartburn right now.

[MrDollarBills]

I still am not comfortable not using the 3rd pick to reach for Shedeur if Carter or Hunter are in play. We cannot pass up high ceiling talent to fill a need to save Schoen's job. And i like Shedeur but we can't pass up either Carter or Hunter.

Yeah we need a QB but the last time we reached for a QB we got burnt. I'd rather take Hunter at 3 and try to trade back into the first to grab a development QB. This isn't a one year fix, we probably are gonna draft top 10 again, and this is why Mara boxing us into a corner by not firing Schoen and Daboll is utterly stupid. We aren't making the playoffs regardless of who we draft or sign at QB.

[MrDollarBills]

don't hate the slayton signing necessarily bc whichever qb we draft will need people to throw to. can't just throw nabers and wan'dale out there.

We need another receiver. Right now Slayton is our #2. Robinson and Hyatt are not difference makers

Schoen is a bad GM

I'm just saying

Pretty good odds Travis Hunter is there at 3

I don't believe he could play full time at both positions, but he would be the best WR in this class, and arguably the top CB too.

If he is at 3, we should take him.

Don't walk away from talent to fill a need. Having Hunter and Nabers would be incredible.

[Synciere]

I still am not comfortable not using the 3rd pick to reach for Shedeur if Carter or Hunter are in play. We cannot pass up high ceiling talent to fill a need to save Schoen's job. And i like Shedeur but we can't pass up either Carter or Hunter.

Yeah we need a QB but the last time we reached for a QB we got burnt. I'd rather take Hunter at 3 and try to trade back into the first to grab a development QB. This isn't a one year fix, we probably are gonna draft top 10 again, and this is why Mara boxing us into a corner by not firing Schoen and Daboll is utterly stupid. We aren't making the playoffs regardless of who we draft or sign at QB.

Myles Garrett is a Hall of Fame caliber player. The Browns cant do anything bc they haven't solved the QB question in three decades it seems. Having Abdul or Travis and no QB is not better than having a good QB, period. Team building is not linear, so all this rhetoric about timelines and how long a rebuild should take is nonsense. The Commanders went from the #2 pick to NFC Championship in one year, because they got an impact quarterback first and foremost. I'm not saying take any old QB, but if they have a first round grade on Shedeur, maybe a small trade back but don't get too cute. Otherwise we'll end up with a Hall of Fame defensive player and a ten year average of 4.3 wins per year.

[Luv those Knicks]

Daniel Jones going to Indy and may be taking the starting job from Richardson. Ooof.

I just saw that. Didn't expect he'd get that this big a chance to start, though they'll probably try to go with Richardson first.

If Zach Wilson is worth 6 million (10 with incentives), then I suppose, DJ is worth 13 guaranteed, up to 17.7 with incentives. Feels high for both (especially Wilson), but maybe this is the going rate for 2nd and 3rd string QBs today.

[mpharris36]

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I don't think the steelers report is from someone reputable

[TerrenceClarke]

I still am not comfortable not using the 3rd pick to reach for Shedeur if Carter or Hunter are in play. We cannot pass up high ceiling talent to fill a need to save Schoen's job. And i like Shedeur but we can't pass up either Carter or Hunter.

Yeah we need a QB but the last time we reached for a QB we got burnt. I'd rather take Hunter at 3 and try to trade back into the first to grab a development QB. This isn't a one year fix, we probably are gonna draft top 10 again, and this is why Mara boxing us into a corner by not firing Schoen and Daboll is utterly stupid. We aren't making the playoffs regardless of who we draft or sign at QB.

Be careful what you talking about. Who is to say Carter or Hunter isn’t a reach. We can’t assume QB is the reach and the others not. You speak as if the others are the safe bets when in reality they not.

There have been a few reaches in recent drafts at both corner and defense end. **** look at KT that was huge reach for us.

Walker from the jags ….and they took him over Hutchinson.

So I say all of that to say…. In reality they are not safer picks than QB.

Hunter can be the reach, and it turns out will Johnson is the better and who we should have picked.

I’m not going to assume anything with any player.

It don’t matter who you pick. You have to hope you get it right with who ever.

Im not gonna short change one position for the other when the other positions don’t guarantee anything either.

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Best news we have gotten in a while. Barkley /McKinney leaving not in vain lol

[TerrenceClarke]

I still am not comfortable not using the 3rd pick to reach for Shedeur if Carter or Hunter are in play. We cannot pass up high ceiling talent to fill a need to save Schoen's job. And i like Shedeur but we can't pass up either Carter or Hunter.

Yeah we need a QB but the last time we reached for a QB we got burnt. I'd rather take Hunter at 3 and try to trade back into the first to grab a development QB. This isn't a one year fix, we probably are gonna draft top 10 again, and this is why Mara boxing us into a corner by not firing Schoen and Daboll is utterly stupid. We aren't making the playoffs regardless of who we draft or sign at QB.

Myles Garrett is a Hall of Fame caliber player. The Browns cant do anything bc they haven't solved the QB question in three decades it seems. Having Abdul or Travis and no QB is not better than having a good QB, period. Team building is not linear, so all this rhetoric about timelines and how long a rebuild should take is nonsense. The Commanders went from the #2 pick to NFC Championship in one year, because they got an impact quarterback first and foremost. I'm not saying take any old QB, but if they have a first round grade on Shedeur, maybe a small trade back but don't get too cute. Otherwise we'll end up with a Hall of Fame defensive player and a ten year average of 4.3 wins per year.

Pretty much.

The reality is that scared money don’t make none.

People are really just afraid . People are afraid that they will get it wrong with QB. When we can get it wrong with the other guys as well.


What’s gonna hurt more. Passing on Hunter and he becomes great. Or passing on a QB and he becomes great.

It’s simple for me….

[TerrenceClarke]

Also MPH and Dollarbills need to sit down.
Yall wasn’t afraid to sign DJ.

Yall in fact wanted it to happen and talked all day how it was such a good deal and was on the upswing.

Yall should be banned from any QB talk. :lol

Yall also got it wrong on Daboll and Schoen.hmmmmm



I would throw GO under the bus cause he was part y’all crew, but he seems to be the most level headed of yall three when it comes to SS lol.

[TerrenceClarke]

^^also nobody should be taking what I said as personal as its all jokes.

[FrozenEnvelope]

All this money spent only to still be a distant 4th in the division and win 4 games again.

[Polk377]

Perfect scenario would be signing Rodgers as a stop gap and nabbing Jalen Milroe in the 3rd. If anyone can help harness that arm strength and make him a more accurate passer it is Rodgers and Daboll. Not to mention he also possesses 4.3-4.4 speed.

[Luv those Knicks]

All this money spent only to still be a distant 4th in the division and win 4 games again.

Respect the Tank. Love the Tank.