Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread - Part Deux

[DowNY]

Knicks acquire - Carl Landry, Jason Terry & #5
Kings acquire - Tyson Chandler (Incoming: $14.1M - Outgoing: $17.8M)
Jazz acquire - Iman Shumpert, Jason Thompson & #8

Kings gets rid of all long term money.
Jazz acquires some talent to move back a few spots & still have cap space to do whatever they want to do.

[HarthorneWingo]

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/# ... b8535f2354

The report also mentions a possible trade of Klay Thompson and Lee to the New York Nicks for Carmelo Anthony.

[DowNY]

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/#!/entry/magic-could-be-interested-in-david-lee,537c45b3e56d0bb8535f2354

The report also mentions a possible trade of Klay Thompson and Lee to the New York Nicks for Carmelo Anthony.

LMAOOO

So they would offer Klay, Barnes & Lee for Love but only Klay & Lee for Melo?!
F outta here.

[HarthorneWingo]

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/#!/entry/magic-could-be-interested-in-david-lee,537c45b3e56d0bb8535f2354

The report also mentions a possible trade of Klay Thompson and Lee to the New York Nicks for Carmelo Anthony.

LMAOOO

So they would offer Klay, Barnes & Lee for Love but only Klay & Lee for Melo?!
F outta here.

And no picks!

[DowNY]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q8yhmwo

Knicks acquire: Kyrie Irving, Kendrick Perkins & Hasheem Thabeet
Nuggets acquire: Reggie Jackson, Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett & Andersan Varejao
Thunder acquire: Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert & JJ Hickson
Cavs acquire: Ty Lawson & Tyson Chandler

- Knicks get Kyrie.

Kyrie Irving - Pablo Prigioni
JR Smith - Tim Hardaway Jr
Carmelo Anthony
Amar'e Stoudemire
Kendrick Perkins

- Nuggets regroup & add more talent across the board to their young team of Gallo, Wiilson, Faried, Mozgov, McGee & #11 pick. Reggie Jackson & Dion Waiters can be real exciting for the team.

Reggie Jackson - Nate Robinson
Dion Waiters - Randy Foye
Danilo Gallinari - Wilson Chandler
Kenneth Faried - Darrell Arthur
Andersan Varejao - Timothy Mozgov - JaVale McGee

- Thunder flips Perkin's bum self for JJ Hickson & Reggie Jackson for Raymond Felton & Iman Shumpert. They were targeting Shump for awhile & Felton can be their vet PG off the bench to fill Jackson's role. Jackson is due for an extension that I don't think the Thunder will be willing to give.

Russell Westbrook - Raymond Felton
Iman Shumpert - Jeremy Lamb
Kevin Durant
Serge Ibaka
JJ Hickson - Steven Adams

- Cavs cleans out all negative energy before they bring in Andrew Wiggins. Kyrie doesn't want to be there & Waiters wants to be the man. Bennett is very emotional & will never live up to being a #1 pick.
Bring in Ty Lawson who's on a good contract for the type of player he is & bring in a veteran player in Tyson Chandler.
With Deng expiring, they can go out & sign someone like Lance Stephenson this off-season. Then sign-and-trade Deng after if they want also. If they don't sign-and-trade Deng, they can still have a nice solid team this year & players in FA next year as Tyson will expire.

Ty Lawson - Jarrett Jack
Lance Stephenson*
Andrew Wiggins*
Tristan Thompson
Tyson Chandler

[Marty McFly]

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/#!/entry/magic-could-be-interested-in-david-lee,537c45b3e56d0bb8535f2354

The report also mentions a possible trade of Klay Thompson and Lee to the New York Nicks for Carmelo Anthony.

i just love teams like the warriors and the rockets who think they should get likes of melo but don't expect the likes of curry or harden to be discussed in a possible swap as if we're talking about lebron **** james. absolutely delusional. "we can have your best player, but you can't have our best player." and for avi **** lee no less. g t f o.

[Meat]

is this too obvious?
shump for a 1st rounder
tyson for a 1st rounder

the 2 firsts and our 2018 and an expiring for someone good? love, randolph, rondo?

[MoneyMitch]

Chandler/Felton/Shumpert to OKC
Jackson/Perkins to NYC

[Meat]

Chandler/Felton/Shumpert to OKC
Jackson/Perkins to NYC

so 2 players worth 1st round draft picks for the worst starting c in the league and a backup pg?

[JN]

The deal should favor the team with the leverage and since the Knicks don't have a viable PG, the leverage would be with Charlotte. I think the simplest deal is Hardaway Jr for Shabazz. That's about even. When you dump a long term deal like Felton the deal favors the Knicks and the knicks wouldn't have leverage.

While I absolutely agree with the dumping of Felton to be a clear negative...to be quite fair, as much as Napier has generated a buzz this past season, there is a reason why many mocks have him as a late 1st round pick instead of what his college performance (best player on best team) would indicate he should be (i.e. top part of lottery). Napier could turn out to be solid. He could also turn out to be the next Mateen Cleaves. It's not hard to argue that Hardaway Jr was the 5th best rookie this past season and in a redo of last years draft would clearly be a lottery pick.

Shabazz is a leader - he just led a team through consecutive multiple high stakes games, two of which were played before nearly 20K in MSG. He's played big games 4 years straight now in MSG in the Big East tournament. He rose up from a tough neighborhood and basically dominated college basketball, improving his skills every year and devoting himself to hard work. The UConn program instills this in all their student-athletes.

He's very coachable for the triangle and can pass and hit a deep shot like Hardaway Jr.

You'd be asking him to play more of a support role.

I think he's a perfect fit for the Knicks and a steal.

I've seen some mocks with him at 12 or 17 or 22. This might be all a moot point because he might even reach 24. If he doesn't slip to 24, I wouldn't expect the Knicks to trade Hardaway Jr for pick 24, but if Shabazz is there, the Knicks should go all in and teach Shabazz the triangle from a young age and groom him as a floor general. Just like the Yankees, you need guys with strong character in the NYC market. It takes a special player to make it in NY.

Food for thought.

Shabazz did not play 4 years at MSG. UConn was BANNED from the Big East Tournament in 2013.

[DowNY]

Knicks acquire - Carl Landry, Jason Terry & #5
Kings acquire - Tyson Chandler (Incoming: $14.1M - Outgoing: $17.8M)
Jazz acquire - Iman Shumpert, Jason Thompson & #8

Kings gets rid of all long term money.
Jazz acquires some talent to move back a few spots & still have cap space to do whatever they want to do.

EDIT

Knicks acquire - Carl Landry, Derrick Williams, Jason Terry & #5
Kings acquire - Tyson Chandler (Incoming: $14.1M - Outgoing: $22.8M)
Jazz acquire - Tim Hardaway Jr., Jeremy Tyler, Toure Murry, Jason Thompson & #8

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

http://t.basketball.realgm.com/realgm/#!/entry/magic-could-be-interested-in-david-lee,537c45b3e56d0bb8535f2354

LMAOOO

So they would offer Klay, Barnes & Lee for Love but only Klay & Lee for Melo?!
F outta here.

And no picks!

FWIW, as a Bulls fan who has an interest in both players--It's pretty unanimous that a signed Love is more valuable than a signed Melo. Although I think Melo is a more impactful player, KLove is younger and a big.

[mpharris36]

Love can be more valuable all he wants but his #'s haven't translated to wins. And he has played with some decent talent in Minnesota. It's not like he is playing with scrubs.

Point is Love isn't someone you just say go get me 30 we need it tonight. Melo is an he is one of the few players in the NBA that can do that. Melo also is a much better defensive player than Love is.

I don't think the players are comparable. Love is a clear step lower then Melo.

[MoneyMitch]

Chandler/Felton/Shumpert to OKC
Jackson/Perkins to NYC

so 2 players worth 1st round draft picks for the worst starting c in the league and a backup pg?

Jackson becomes our starting PG, we use Chandler to get rid of Felton's deal earlier, Perkins is expiring

How can you not like this deal

[HarthorneWingo]

LMAOOO

So they would offer Klay, Barnes & Lee for Love but only Klay & Lee for Melo?!
F outta here.

And no picks!

FWIW, as a Bulls fan who has an interest in both players--It's pretty unanimous that a signed Love is more valuable than a signed Melo. Although I think Melo is a more impactful player, KLove is younger and a big.

You may be right, but why hasn't won in Minnesota?

[iLovethosedamnknicks]

KEVIN LOVE
KEVIN MARTIN
CHASE BUDDINGER

FOR

AMARE
SHUMP
TIM HARDAWAY JR

Why for nyk:
we lose young talent but get that superstar we need and have to sacrifice and take back those contracts

why for minn:
we are hearing that they want young talent, well they get it plus get to unload on 2 bad contracts

next deal:
barg and felton

for

jeff teague

nyk: they get a solid pg

atl:they get two shorter contracts which is what they are looking for


teague
jr
melo
kev love
tyson chandler

bench:
prigs
kev martin
chase bud
jeremy tyler
pau gasol

[iLovethosedamnknicks]

KEVIN LOVE
KEVIN MARTIN
CHASE BUDDINGER

FOR

AMARE
SHUMP
TIM HARDAWAY JR

Why for nyk:
we lose young talent but get that superstar we need and have to sacrifice and take back those contracts

why for minn:
we are hearing that they want young talent, well they get it plus get to unload on 2 bad contracts

next deal:
barg and felton

for

jeff teague

nyk: they get a solid pg

atl:they get two shorter contracts which is what they are looking for


teague
jr
melo
kev love
tyson chandler

bench:
prigs
kev martin
chase bud
jeremy tyler
pau gasol

COACH: PHIL JACKSON

[mpharris36]

cocaine's a hell of a drug

[iLovethosedamnknicks]

cocaine's a hell of a drug

[moocow007]

Chandler/Felton/Shumpert to OKC
Jackson/Perkins to NYC

so 2 players worth 1st round draft picks for the worst starting c in the league and a backup pg?

Yeah I don't get the infatuation with Reggie Jackson. The OKC offense looked terrible when he was trying to run it. Jackson IMO is ideally a backup combo guard...a potentially top notch one...but still a backup.