Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread IV

[StephNYKurry]

Do you hear yourself? What do people go to church for? What is Jesus a figure for? You brought that up. Not me.

Church community is based on shared religious beliefs. It does not constitute religion. Jesus is APART OF CHURCH CULTURE. Church Culture (like hip hop) is built on shared beliefs. If you read the bible (doubt you've done that either) you'd know that being religious doesn't require a church membership. I know this because I spent the first 20 years of my life in a church where my pops was a deacon.

Religion/Church is also a discussion you can't really engage in with me because you're not equipped.

All this time and I'm just now figuring out...I'm just smarter than you lmao

Maybe I'm not that smart if it's taken me this long =(

You have a hard time comprehending.
You don't know what I'm equipped for. My daddy was a Deacon my mother a Deaconess and an great uncle a Minister.

Stop trying to reach with me and take what I say at face value. Don't add anything or take anything away.

This, ladies and gentlemen

Is the victim of a dastardly plan by those who run **** to make hip hop "unimportant"

THEY'RE SUCCEEDING!!!!

[StephNYKurry]

They really got the kids out here thinkin Hip Hop is freakin "alternative finnish rock" or some chump genre

Sad man.


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[Mecca]

A gigantic issue in the hip-hop community is that we flipped the script.. it went from rapping about hustling, selling drugs, working the block to taking drugs, getting turnt, lit, etc.. as cool. The former, I can respect. It was the hustle to succeed even with limiting circumstances. Even if you aren't selling drugs yourself, you 'respect the hustle.' I can't rock with every line BRAGGING about how many drugs they're on.


I actually have written about this. Future, Thugger, Uzi, Kodak all have crazy influence in the streets.. but the only thing they're doing is making 'lean cool.' I'm telling you, the streets are crazy with the lean these days.

[IllmaticHandler]

Where is the DJ spinning breaks and cutting up stabs? The beat boxing? Where is the graffiti art? Where is the b boying, break dancing? Where is the knowledge?

The only element still being practiced is rapping. That morphed off of emceeing. That element is dying now. It's now mouth sounds of harmony over a beat.

Hip Hop is dead. It's been dead. It's been dead so long that most don't even know the elements that made up the culture, so they say it's alive. And mistakenly refer to it as a music genre.

The Temple of Hip Hop days are over, that hip hop been long dead like you said.
Where are the 5 Percenters in rap? Hell back in the day almost all the NY rappers were repping it. Is that even a thing anymore?
To be a great DJ these days you really can make an entire career off of Fruity Loops. DJ Mustard has been making the same damn beat over and over and is still getting played on the regular.
- Where are the posse cuts? We barely get any of them anymore and if we do most of them are wack.
- Where are the head bangers? Where is that Primo beat that can shake an entire sidewalk?

At the end of the day you got to smile because at least you knew what IT was like.

Yes Five Percenters around. The Gods and Earths are still Building regardless if Rappers are not Five Percenters as much as they used to. For the most of them cats its was a Fad. For the true and Living it was not.

[Mecca]

Where is the DJ spinning breaks and cutting up stabs? The beat boxing? Where is the graffiti art? Where is the b boying, break dancing? Where is the knowledge?

The only element still being practiced is rapping. That morphed off of emceeing. That element is dying now. It's now mouth sounds of harmony over a beat.

Hip Hop is dead. It's been dead. It's been dead so long that most don't even know the elements that made up the culture, so they say it's alive. And mistakenly refer to it as a music genre.

The Temple of Hip Hop days are over, that hip hop been long dead like you said.
Where are the 5 Percenters in rap? Hell back in the day almost all the NY rappers were repping it. Is that even a thing anymore?
To be a great DJ these days you really can make an entire career off of Fruity Loops. DJ Mustard has been making the same damn beat over and over and is still getting played on the regular.
- Where are the posse cuts? We barely get any of them anymore and if we do most of them are wack.
- Where are the head bangers? Where is that Primo beat that can shake an entire sidewalk?

At the end of the day you got to smile because at least you knew what IT was like.

Ab-Soul a 5%'er... Black Hippy got a bunch of posse cuts... I swear hip-hop didn't die, the fans did. & I know Kane/MP got more knowledge in their pinky than I got in my body, but I also realize that old vs. new school the new east vs. west in communities.


Any 90's head ask for hip-hop.. like GRIT... I throw on some RetcH, Ab-Soul, Vince Staples and have em hooked.

[IllmaticHandler]

A gigantic issue in the hip-hop community is that we flipped the script.. it went from rapping about hustling, selling drugs, working the block to taking drugs, getting turnt, lit, etc.. as cool. The former, I can respect. It was the hustle to succeed even with limiting circumstances. Even if you aren't selling drugs yourself, you 'respect the hustle.' I can't rock with every line BRAGGING about how many drugs they're on.


I actually have written about this. Future, Thugger, Uzi, Kodak all have crazy influence in the streets.. but the only thing they're doing is making 'lean cool.' I'm telling you, the streets are crazy with the lean these days.

Facts....

[IllmaticHandler]

Where is the DJ spinning breaks and cutting up stabs? The beat boxing? Where is the graffiti art? Where is the b boying, break dancing? Where is the knowledge?

The only element still being practiced is rapping. That morphed off of emceeing. That element is dying now. It's now mouth sounds of harmony over a beat.

Hip Hop is dead. It's been dead. It's been dead so long that most don't even know the elements that made up the culture, so they say it's alive. And mistakenly refer to it as a music genre.

The Temple of Hip Hop days are over, that hip hop been long dead like you said.
Where are the 5 Percenters in rap? Hell back in the day almost all the NY rappers were repping it. Is that even a thing anymore?
To be a great DJ these days you really can make an entire career off of Fruity Loops. DJ Mustard has been making the same damn beat over and over and is still getting played on the regular.
- Where are the posse cuts? We barely get any of them anymore and if we do most of them are wack.
- Where are the head bangers? Where is that Primo beat that can shake an entire sidewalk?

At the end of the day you got to smile because at least you knew what IT was like.

Ab-Soul a 5%'er... Black Hippy got a bunch of posse cuts... I swear hip-hop didn't die, the fans did. & I know Kane/MP got more knowledge in their pinky than I got in my body, but I also realize that old vs. new school the new east vs. west in communities.


Any 90's head ask for hip-hop.. like GRIT... I throw on some RetcH, Ab-Soul, Vince Staples and have em hooked.

Ab Soul is NOT a five percenter G. He speaks a lot of Knowledge but he is not apart of the culture. Ab Soul is into a lot of spaced out stuff that we don't even teach.


I'm a real person so I am not afraid to show myself. Here is my Gram so you see I am not some fraud clamming to be a five percenter.


https://www.instagram.com/originalauthor7/

[Greenie]

A gigantic issue in the hip-hop community is that we flipped the script.. it went from rapping about hustling, selling drugs, working the block to taking drugs, getting turnt, lit, etc.. as cool. The former, I can respect. It was the hustle to succeed even with limiting circumstances. Even if you aren't selling drugs yourself, you 'respect the hustle.' I can't rock with every line BRAGGING about how many drugs they're on.


I actually have written about this. Future, Thugger, Uzi, Kodak all have crazy influence in the streets.. but the only thing they're doing is making 'lean cool.' I'm telling you, the streets are crazy with the lean these days.

Agreed

[Mecca]

RetcH Jersey so y'all better show love. Soulo might be top 5 in the game right now... maybe top 3...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCIErmsmhqY[/youtube]

[Mecca]

The Temple of Hip Hop days are over, that hip hop been long dead like you said.
Where are the 5 Percenters in rap? Hell back in the day almost all the NY rappers were repping it. Is that even a thing anymore?
To be a great DJ these days you really can make an entire career off of Fruity Loops. DJ Mustard has been making the same damn beat over and over and is still getting played on the regular.
- Where are the posse cuts? We barely get any of them anymore and if we do most of them are wack.
- Where are the head bangers? Where is that Primo beat that can shake an entire sidewalk?

At the end of the day you got to smile because at least you knew what IT was like.

Ab-Soul a 5%'er... Black Hippy got a bunch of posse cuts... I swear hip-hop didn't die, the fans did. & I know Kane/MP got more knowledge in their pinky than I got in my body, but I also realize that old vs. new school the new east vs. west in communities.


Any 90's head ask for hip-hop.. like GRIT... I throw on some RetcH, Ab-Soul, Vince Staples and have em hooked.

Ab Soul is NOT a five percenter G. He speaks a lot of Knowledge but he is not apart of the culture. Ab Soul is into a lot of spaced out stuff that we don't even teach.


I'm a real person so I am not afraid to show myself. Here is my Gram so you see I am not some fraud clamming to be a five percenter.


https://www.instagram.com/originalauthor7/

I heard him spit some stuff about it in his bars... I could'a sword him and Jay Elect were.. I have friends that are 5%'ers.. I read the Tao of Wu... GREAT read.. he talked a lot about the 5%'ers it's really interesting stuff. The 12 Jewels need to be engraved into everyone's mind.

[Greenie]

From a person who actually ran in the streets...



The most of these posters are white, and the one sister lives in surburbia, and get to listen to street hip hop from an outsiders perspective. The majority of you dont live in the communities that these stories are being spoken about. You dont live around the chaos...so its why so many people find it "entertaining".


Greenie is a Banker making nice money, but she loves the tales of Broke Inner City Black Kids who are rapping about destruction in many cases....


How many posters are living in a community in here seeing black men die at a rapid rate....these are the stories that are being told that people find entertaining when they listen to street ****. Most of what people find as entertainment, are REAL ISSUES. Drug use Etc/Crime in the black community is a real issue.


I have noticed in life, that poverty and struggle is always entertaining to those who do not have to deal with it. Its never entertaining to those that go through it. Its why those who live in it, will do anything to get out of it if they can.


As Much as I love Hip Hop and live it, I know for a fact, that what its currently being programmed into the masses, its fueling alot of the violence in the Hood. I been to prision, I did plenty of dirt, and while Hip Hop is not why I went into the streets, I will DEF say that street music fueled me not giving a **** EVEN MORE when I was a shorty. Listening to street music, but dont even live a street life, is DIFFERENT than Listening to street music, and LIVING A STREET LIFE. I love rugged ****, but I love not being destructive in my community even more, now that I know better. I did not want to be part of the problem no more.

I at least had much more choice, cause there was a balance. So even thoe I swayed into the streets, I got learn about so much History and the greatness of black people from rappers who spit something other than street ****. See the Rappers that had a conscious message, was on the SAME station as the one who had a Street Message.

Today that choice does not exist on the mainstream outlets for those in they teens.


THIS IS WHAT THIS CONVO IS ABOUT.

See first off you don't know my full background.

Yeah, I'm in corporate banking and make 6 figures a year in my damn twenties. I busted my ass for it.

I have family in jail. I have family addicted to drugs including uncles.

My grandparents came from the south and started in Queens projects. They busted their asses sometimes both carrying more than one job to buy a house in LI. Till this day I have family still in Queens living in fuqery. Why? Ask them.

I understand both sides if the coin sir. I've seen it with my own damn eyes and experienced some myself.

It still doesn't make hip hop anymore or less important.

If you TRULY understand Greenie, then why are you arguing the fact so much. Based on what you told me, then you of all people should KNOW why BALANCE is needed. This whole convo has always been about Balance Greenie. You have tried to make this convo about liking or not liking, but my stance has been clear, I would not care about weak rappers shinning, as long as I get to see dudes who respect the art get the accolades and finnaces as well. I seriously hate seeing people who put in mad work to reach a certain skill, only to be told "get out of here".


You said you busted your ass for your salary right?


What about the MC that busted his ass to aspire to be on the level of some of the best to ever do it...only to be told to go sit in this box, and take these crumbs. "The masses may like your music, but we won't afford you that chance to see if that can happen."


You got your reward for busting your ass....these type of MC's Don't get the reward for busting they ass or staying true to the craft.

All people don't get rewarded for busting their ass. That's life. I said that. It's always not what you know it's who you know.

The issue in music I see spans much further than hiphop. I'm a huge R&B fan. It rarely played on radio. Chris Brown dominates...while the traditional R&B artist doesn't get shine. It still doesn't bother me. Why? I know about the others too. I have internet and can readily find new and interesting things to listen too. Radio killed mainstream music. That's why they play the same damn songs over and over again. I caught on long ago and let it go. I don't listen to the radio. How many times are you going to play "Work"?

Radio killed it. They are being paid by labels to push certain artists. It is what it is. The best way to break through is over the internet.

[Greenie]

Where is the DJ spinning breaks and cutting up stabs? The beat boxing? Where is the graffiti art? Where is the b boying, break dancing? Where is the knowledge?

The only element still being practiced is rapping. That morphed off of emceeing. That element is dying now. It's now mouth sounds of harmony over a beat.

Hip Hop is dead. It's been dead. It's been dead so long that most don't even know the elements that made up the culture, so they say it's alive. And mistakenly refer to it as a music genre.

The Temple of Hip Hop days are over, that hip hop been long dead like you said.
Where are the 5 Percenters in rap? Hell back in the day almost all the NY rappers were repping it. Is that even a thing anymore?
To be a great DJ these days you really can make an entire career off of Fruity Loops. DJ Mustard has been making the same damn beat over and over and is still getting played on the regular.
- Where are the posse cuts? We barely get any of them anymore and if we do most of them are wack.
- Where are the head bangers? Where is that Primo beat that can shake an entire sidewalk?

At the end of the day you got to smile because at least you knew what IT was like.

Yes Five Percenters around. The Gods and Earths are still Building regardless if Rappers are not Five Percenters as much as they used to. For the most of them cats its was a Fad. For the true and Living it was not.

Jay is a 5 percenter no? A lot of what people want to call illuminati talk in his music is actually 5 percenter talk no?

[IllmaticHandler]

Ab-Soul a 5%'er... Black Hippy got a bunch of posse cuts... I swear hip-hop didn't die, the fans did. & I know Kane/MP got more knowledge in their pinky than I got in my body, but I also realize that old vs. new school the new east vs. west in communities.


Any 90's head ask for hip-hop.. like GRIT... I throw on some RetcH, Ab-Soul, Vince Staples and have em hooked.

Ab Soul is NOT a five percenter G. He speaks a lot of Knowledge but he is not apart of the culture. Ab Soul is into a lot of spaced out stuff that we don't even teach.


I'm a real person so I am not afraid to show myself. Here is my Gram so you see I am not some fraud clamming to be a five percenter.


https://www.instagram.com/originalauthor7/

I heard him spit some stuff about it in his bars... I could'a sword him and Jay Elect were.. I have friends that are 5%'ers.. I read the Tao of Wu... GREAT read.. he talked a lot about the 5%'ers it's really interesting stuff. The 12 Jewels need to be engraved into everyone's mind.

Nah Jay Elect ia Fraud in that regards. The Gods actually want to **** him up for mis representing the culture. What he really is a N.O.I member under Farrakhan posing as a Five Percenter. To Make it simple. He is a Muslim, not a Five Percenter.

[Greenie]

Ab Soul is NOT a five percenter G. He speaks a lot of Knowledge but he is not apart of the culture. Ab Soul is into a lot of spaced out stuff that we don't even teach.


I'm a real person so I am not afraid to show myself. Here is my Gram so you see I am not some fraud clamming to be a five percenter.


https://www.instagram.com/originalauthor7/

I heard him spit some stuff about it in his bars... I could'a sword him and Jay Elect were.. I have friends that are 5%'ers.. I read the Tao of Wu... GREAT read.. he talked a lot about the 5%'ers it's really interesting stuff. The 12 Jewels need to be engraved into everyone's mind.

Nah Jay Elect ia Fraud in that regards. The Gods actually want to **** him up for mis representing the culture. What he really is a N.O.I member under Farrakhan posing as a Five Percenter. To Make it simple. He is a Muslim, not a Five Percenter.

interesting...

Can I ask you a dumb question?

[IllmaticHandler]

The Temple of Hip Hop days are over, that hip hop been long dead like you said.
Where are the 5 Percenters in rap? Hell back in the day almost all the NY rappers were repping it. Is that even a thing anymore?
To be a great DJ these days you really can make an entire career off of Fruity Loops. DJ Mustard has been making the same damn beat over and over and is still getting played on the regular.
- Where are the posse cuts? We barely get any of them anymore and if we do most of them are wack.
- Where are the head bangers? Where is that Primo beat that can shake an entire sidewalk?

At the end of the day you got to smile because at least you knew what IT was like.

Yes Five Percenters around. The Gods and Earths are still Building regardless if Rappers are not Five Percenters as much as they used to. For the most of them cats its was a Fad. For the true and Living it was not.

Jay is a 5 percenter no? A lot of what people want to call illuminati talk in his music is actually 5 percenter talk no?

Hell NO jay aint the God. What happened was he BORROWED MELO's CHAIN. Trying to get a little magnetic from wearing the Universal Flag. Five Percenter did not respect Jay Z wearing the Universal Flag, because we knew he was not sincere. Soon as the Media was blasting Jay Z for wearing it, you can see he took that **** right off. He did not realize the heat he would get. As you can see, Melo Still wears the Universal Flag.


I will say this...


"Illuminati" talk is tricky cause most people who speak of them on youtube or many places don't know what they are talking about or are a little bugged out.


What People call the the Illuminati...we call it the 10%.


I would not say its the same, but there are similarities in the fact that truths are exposed.

[Greenie]

Yes Five Percenters around. The Gods and Earths are still Building regardless if Rappers are not Five Percenters as much as they used to. For the most of them cats its was a Fad. For the true and Living it was not.

Jay is a 5 percenter no? A lot of what people want to call illuminati talk in his music is actually 5 percenter talk no?

Hell NO jay aint the God. What happened was he BORROWED MELO's CHAIN. Trying to get a little magnetic from wearing the Universal Flag. Five Percenter did not respect Jay Z wearing the Universal Flag, because we knew he was not sincere. Soon as the Media was blasting Jay Z for wearing it, you can see he took that **** right off. He did not realize the heat he would get. As you can see, Melo Still wears the Universal Flag.


I will say this...


"Illuminati" talk is tricky cause most people who speak of them on youtube or many places don't know what they are talking about or are a little bugged out.


What People call the the Illuminati...we call it the 10%.


I would not say its the same, but there are similarities in the fact that truths are exposed.

Got it.

[IllmaticHandler]

I heard him spit some stuff about it in his bars... I could'a sword him and Jay Elect were.. I have friends that are 5%'ers.. I read the Tao of Wu... GREAT read.. he talked a lot about the 5%'ers it's really interesting stuff. The 12 Jewels need to be engraved into everyone's mind.

Nah Jay Elect ia Fraud in that regards. The Gods actually want to **** him up for mis representing the culture. What he really is a N.O.I member under Farrakhan posing as a Five Percenter. To Make it simple. He is a Muslim, not a Five Percenter.

interesting...

Can I ask you a dumb question?

Ask away Greenie. You know me and you are good money, no matter how testy things get.

[Greenie]

Nah Jay Elect ia Fraud in that regards. The Gods actually want to **** him up for mis representing the culture. What he really is a N.O.I member under Farrakhan posing as a Five Percenter. To Make it simple. He is a Muslim, not a Five Percenter.

interesting...

Can I ask you a dumb question?

Ask away Greenie. You know me and you are good money, no matter how testy things get.

I know. We are adults no?
Here's my question...
Do you eat pork as a 5% or no?

[IllmaticHandler]

interesting...

Can I ask you a dumb question?

Ask away Greenie. You know me and you are good money, no matter how testy things get.

I know. We are adults no?
Here's my question...
Do you eat pork as a 5% or no?

Hell to the N.O.

[Greenie]

Ask away Greenie. You know me and you are good money, no matter how testy things get.

I know. We are adults no?
Here's my question...
Do you eat pork as a 5% or no?

Hell to the N.O.

Thanks.
I needed to know