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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1221 » by Context » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:05 am

robillionaire wrote:Needless to say I’m an advocate for the Nick Richards trade

yeah but is it possible? they just saw us give 16 1st for Mikal...When you have a lot of assets everybody wants the same deal :lol:
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1222 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:06 am

3toheadmelo wrote:this is some bs. we're all trying to convince ourselves crappy cheap centers are gonna help us. ihart why you had to be like that



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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1223 » by robillionaire » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:06 am

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TrueWarrior wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harteis01.html

Isaiah’s advanced and per minute stats were even better on the Cavs and Clippers btw. Higher points, assists, blocks, etc. He just fouled more before basically.

Thibs did not make Isaiah. If anything he held him back a bit, and made him change his game in order to fit what he wanted. Isaiah took 5 less FGA per 100 possessions with us and had an Ast % almost half of what he did the 2 years before.

I will not be surprised if he blossoms more in OKC. Thibs is great for getting some guys, especially centers, to play well in his system but he definitely can limit them. That may have definitely been another reason he left.

that would make sense to me-hence the real reason he went to OKC TW...


I also agree with TW. He can shoot 3s but we never let him. Imagine when that’s back in his arsenal.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1224 » by robillionaire » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:07 am

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robillionaire wrote:Needless to say I’m an advocate for the Nick Richards trade

yeah but is it possible? they just saw us give 16 1st for Mikal...When you have a lot of assets everybody wants the same deal :lol:


Well now we don’t have very many assets :lol:
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1225 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:08 am

sol537 wrote:I’d do McBride for Kessler straight up. Then I’d sign Burks and Precious to 1-year or 2-year deals for depth and future trade purposes. We’d be right back to #2 or #3 on the power rankings.


Straight up with no picks? Oh yeah, I'm sure Ainge would consider that. :roll:
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1226 » by K_ick_God » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:09 am

Given that I really thought iHart didn't look healthy or good for 85% of the playoffs, I'm not too bummed.

Precious should return for sure. He's not iHart as a passer but he has a pretty good sense about moving the ball and where to be on the court defensively and offensively. He needs to get some moves that he feels comfortable repeating and stay aggressive with his long wingspan. He has a ceiling still.

If he cut down on mistakes and became a decent 3 point shooter, he's got a really nice game. Long arms, soft hands.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1227 » by TrueWarrior » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:12 am

robillionaire wrote:
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TrueWarrior wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harteis01.html

Isaiah’s advanced and per minute stats were even better on the Cavs and Clippers btw. Higher points, assists, blocks, etc. He just fouled more before basically.

Thibs did not make Isaiah. If anything he held him back a bit, and made him change his game in order to fit what he wanted. Isaiah took 5 less FGA per 100 possessions (23 ppg down to 13-15 ppg) with us and had an Ast % almost half of what he did the 2 years before.

I will not be surprised if he blossoms more in OKC. Thibs is great for getting some guys, especially centers, to play well in his system but he definitely can limit them. That may have been another reason he left.

that would make sense to me-hence the real reason he went to OKC TW...


I also agree with TW. He can shoot 3s but we never let him. Imagine when that’s back in his arsenal.


To be fair we did let him shoot 37 threes last season, but he only hit 8 for 22%. Didn’t really commit to it much obviously though, and we basically just made him play like Mitch with some high post passes.

On the Clippers he shot 14 for 30 on threes fwiw, and yeah his free throws and form look solid. Im sure he will become a decent shooter.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1228 » by Context » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:13 am

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robillionaire wrote:Needless to say I’m an advocate for the Nick Richards trade

yeah but is it possible? they just saw us give 16 1st for Mikal...When you have a lot of assets everybody wants the same deal :lol:


Well now we don’t have very many assets :lol:

you think that matter?! :lol:
you want Nik give us Deuce and 3 1st :lol:
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1229 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:13 am

Trademarkk wrote:Sign Wiseman and Thomas Bryant.


Wiseman may be worth the gamble. At least he has size.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1230 » by Context » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:13 am

KnicksGod wrote:Give that I really thought iHart didn't look healthy or good for 85% of the playoffs, I'm not too bummed.

Precious should return for sure. He's not iHart as a passer but he has a pretty good sense about moving the ball. He needs to get some moves that he feels comfortable repeating and stay aggressive with his long wingspan. He has a ceiling still.

KG why do you think he left?
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1231 » by stuporman » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:17 am

Every off season it's the same thing, all the stress about what Rose has or hasn't done gets turned into praise by opening day whether he deserves it or not....and buzz trolls you all along the way.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1232 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:19 am

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KnicksGod wrote:Give that I really thought iHart didn't look healthy or good for 85% of the playoffs, I'm not too bummed.

Precious should return for sure. He's not iHart as a passer but he has a pretty good sense about moving the ball. He needs to get some moves that he feels comfortable repeating and stay aggressive with his long wingspan. He has a ceiling still.

KG why do you think he left?


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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1233 » by Context » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:22 am

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KnicksGod wrote:Give that I really thought iHart didn't look healthy or good for 85% of the playoffs, I'm not too bummed.

Precious should return for sure. He's not iHart as a passer but he has a pretty good sense about moving the ball. He needs to get some moves that he feels comfortable repeating and stay aggressive with his long wingspan. He has a ceiling still.

KG why do you think he left?



appreciate your answer but I'm curious to hear what KG thinks...
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1234 » by The Lamma » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:27 am

omerome wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:Theis
Zeller
Goga
Wagner

I say bring back Precious and just call it the day for now.


+1. He was solid. And when he started in a pinch for that stretch (in Jan I think?) he rebounded the sht out of the ball.

Dario Saric could be another option. Seems like he's been around forever, but still only 30 years old. Per 36 numbers are at or above his career average including 9+ rebounds. Shot 37.6% from downtown and 39.1% the year before. Good passer for a big.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1235 » by GettinitDone » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:42 am

3toheadmelo wrote:this is some bs. we're all trying to convince ourselves crappy cheap centers are gonna help us. ihart why you had to be like that


Cheap centers like iHart this past season helped us get the #2 seed after Mitch went down... without iHart we would probably have lost to Sixers in 1st rd, the offensive reb, the pass to OG that led to the Divo 3 pointer, then the game sealing block on Maxey, we would have lost Game 2 without him.

Cheap/ complementary players like Derrick White, Al Horford are a big reason why teams win championships. When we ALREADY have stars like JB and Randle, we don't go for another star, this is not 2K or fantasy team, "let's put together a team of as many as 25ppg players and we'll win the chip!!!" See Phoenix Suns exhibit.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1236 » by DE FENSE » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:49 am

GettinitDone wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this is some bs. we're all trying to convince ourselves crappy cheap centers are gonna help us. ihart why you had to be like that


Cheap centers like iHart this past season helped us get the #2 seed after Mitch went down... without iHart we would probably have lost to Sixers in 1st rd, the offensive reb, the pass to OG that led to the Divo 3 pointer, then the game sealing block on Maxey, we would have lost Game 2 without him.

Cheap/ complementary players like Derrick White, Al Horford are a big reason why teams win championships. When we ALREADY have stars like JB and Randle, we don't go for another star, this is not 2K or fantasy team, "let's put together a team of as many as 25ppg players and we'll win the chip!!!" See Phoenix Suns exhibit.


This is where im at. Hearing Brandon Tierney say that we are no longer contenders because we lost iHart is so dramatic.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1237 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:52 am

GettinitDone wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:this is some bs. we're all trying to convince ourselves crappy cheap centers are gonna help us. ihart why you had to be like that


Cheap centers like iHart this past season helped us get the #2 seed after Mitch went down... without iHart we would probably have lost to Sixers in 1st rd, the offensive reb, the pass to OG that led to the Divo 3 pointer, then the game sealing block on Maxey, we would have lost Game 2 without him.

Cheap/ complementary players like Derrick White, Al Horford are a big reason why teams win championships. When we ALREADY have stars like JB and Randle, we don't go for another star, this is not 2K or fantasy team, "let's put together a team of as many as 25ppg players and we'll win the chip!!!" See Phoenix Suns exhibit.

al horford is a 5x all star. what are you even talking about :lol:
and derrick white just got paid like $120 million
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1238 » by K_ick_God » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:56 am

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KnicksGod wrote:Give that I really thought iHart didn't look healthy or good for 85% of the playoffs, I'm not too bummed.

Precious should return for sure. He's not iHart as a passer but he has a pretty good sense about moving the ball. He needs to get some moves that he feels comfortable repeating and stay aggressive with his long wingspan. He has a ceiling still.

KG why do you think he left?


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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1239 » by nykballa2k4 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 1:01 am

The Lamma wrote:
omerome wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:Theis
Zeller
Goga
Wagner

I say bring back Precious and just call it the day for now.


+1. He was solid. And when he started in a pinch for that stretch (in Jan I think?) he rebounded the sht out of the ball.

Dario Saric could be another option. Seems like he's been around forever, but still only 30 years old. Per 36 numbers are at or above his career average including 9+ rebounds. Shot 37.6% from downtown and 39.1% the year before. Good passer for a big.

We need C's who can play that rim protecting role while bringing some other facet.
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Re: iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1240 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Jul 2, 2024 1:03 am

I'm hoping RW3 gets bought out. Thibs would love him some Time Lord.

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