[Camelo Thread Part 7]

[nyknicks2k2]

There is no evidence that the Knicks want nothing to do with Melo. All the evidence goes against that. If Melo actually feels this way, maybe he should read more. Every potential deal we're in begins and ends with "The Knicks will not add salary due to Carmelo becoming a FA". Melo and Amare are friends. Hang out often. I'm sure info goes around often enough there.

As far as leaking stuff, no. Why? Walsh isn't that type of person. To say this falls on him when THE OTHER TEAM isn't willing to talk is ignorant. The Nets have been in the front seat of this since the off season. Not because of what they have but because of one common goal. Keeping Melo out of NY. Your just looking for someone to blame. Carmelo would be in NY if we were in the off season. We're not so he isn't. He has to deal with a front office that has no desire to let him have his cake and eat it.

As far as what Amare said, really? Is he supposed to say "Yeah, we're good but we need another star. This team won't go anywhere without another star". Cmon son.

standard answer: this is a business, and always looking to get better

leak stuff not to tick any1 of, but so melo knows nyk is trying and so hes less likely to accept extension in nj as long as he knows ny trying (which at this point he is doubting)

and the quote by "someone close to Amare" pretty much says "Yeah Melo, we do want you. Now STFU and wait".

There ya go. You got what you want.

[god shammgod]

b/c melo is reading this stuff? (as he is quoted today)

NY should be leaking stuff frequently to remind him they are trying their best to get him

If your suggesting Melo gets his information from the media I can't even take you seriously anymore you can't possibly be from this reality. You must be from the other side like that show Fringe... from the place with the shiny statue of liberty...

alterpharm, fringe is good. but he did obviously reference the story about the knicks not needing him.

[johnnywishbone]

Except it's not that simple, and there's no "PERIOD" to it. Denver wants certain things and Carmelo wants certain things, and they each have negotiating power. If it were as simple as you make it out to be this would have been over and done with months ago.

Melo: I want to go to NY.

Denver: No.

Melo: I could walk you know.

Denver: You need this contract more than we need you. So, tough.

Melo: But I hate NJ! OMG! They suck.

Denver: That's funny cause we hate you and think you suck.

PERIOD.

So Carmelo plays for NJ for 3 months and then signs with the Knicks, and Denver gets nothing. Period.

That's a lot of money to leave on the table. What if he goes to NJ and gets injured? He'll sign that extension - one way or another.

[RHODEY]

There is no evidence that the Knicks want nothing to do with Melo. All the evidence goes against that. If Melo actually feels this way, maybe he should read more. Every potential deal we're in begins and ends with "The Knicks will not add salary due to Carmelo becoming a FA". Melo and Amare are friends. Hang out often. I'm sure info goes around often enough there.

As far as leaking stuff, no. Why? Walsh isn't that type of person. To say this falls on him when THE OTHER TEAM isn't willing to talk is ignorant. The Nets have been in the front seat of this since the off season. Not because of what they have but because of one common goal. Keeping Melo out of NY. Your just looking for someone to blame. Carmelo would be in NY if we were in the off season. We're not so he isn't. He has to deal with a front office that has no desire to let him have his cake and eat it.

As far as what Amare said, really? Is he supposed to say "Yeah, we're good but we need another star. This team won't go anywhere without another star". Cmon son.

standard answer: this is a business, and always looking to get better

leak stuff not to tick any1 of, but so melo knows nyk is trying and so hes less likely to accept extension in nj as long as he knows ny trying (which at this point he is doubting)

If those two are friends, it doesn't matter what they say to the media. You think Lebron wasn't clued in on Wade and Bosh's intentions before he chose Miami? It's all a game of poker.

[god shammgod]

i think the extension is an issue. he could just say i'm waiting till the summer to make my decision and all of this would go away. in fact he'd probably get his wish and get traded here if he did that. his representatives are not doing a good job.

[Falstaffxx]

So Carmelo plays for NJ for 3 months and then signs with the Knicks, and Denver gets nothing. Period.

That's a lot of money to leave on the table. What if he goes to NJ and gets injured? He'll sign that extension - one way or another.

It's been demonstrated multiple times that it would take huge concessions by the players union for a 5-year deal with us to leave "a lot of money on the table." But what does this have to do with your original post, which was that "Carmelo is an employee, Denver chooses where he goes, PERIOD." You're basically saying "I believe Carmelo's anxiety about the CBA is a bigger deal to him than Denver losing their franchise player for nothing or for a rental-level package is to them." Speculation. It's an opinion, not something that ends in a PERIOD.

[Pharmcat]

i think the extension is an issue. he could just say i'm waiting till the summer to make my decision and all of this would go away. in fact he'd probably get his wish and get traded here if he did that. his representatives are not doing a good job.

his representatives want the 4% on the 65 million asap

[nyknicks2k2]

i think the extension is an issue. he could just say i'm waiting till the summer to make my decision and all of this would go away. in fact he'd probably get his wish and get traded here if he did that. his representatives are not doing a good job.

Some of his people want him in NJ.

[Falstaffxx]

i think the extension is an issue. he could just say i'm waiting till the summer to make my decision and all of this would go away. in fact he'd probably get his wish and get traded here if he did that. his representatives are not doing a good job.

his representatives want the 4% on the 65 million asap

And what we have to hope is that Carmelo isn't on board with that.

[AllanHoustonFan]

i think the extension is an issue. he could just say i'm waiting till the summer to make my decision and all of this would go away. in fact he'd probably get his wish and get traded here if he did that. his representatives are not doing a good job.

his representatives want the 4% on the 65 million asap

And what we have to hope is that Carmelo isn't on board with that.

Just like LeBron. Those clowns was pressuring him to sign with Chicago and he did exactly what he wanted.

[god shammgod]

i think the extension is an issue. he could just say i'm waiting till the summer to make my decision and all of this would go away. in fact he'd probably get his wish and get traded here if he did that. his representatives are not doing a good job.

his representatives want the 4% on the 65 million asap

they'd still get it. all they needed to do was bluff. denver can't afford to lose him for nothing.

[duetta]

if donnie cant land melo, its a bigger failure than lbj

lbj never wanted to come here
melo is clamoring for 5 months to come here

You're an amazingly negative person.

[Knicker23]

Amare shouldn't be saying anything about 'waiting it out ' . . unless he's talking about 'until the trade deadline'....We need Melo how ever reasonably possible, and that isn't gona be by FA... it's easy for 100 mill man to tell that to Melo, but Melo isn't going to be a FA for many reasons; wanting the $ and Denver trading him before that becomes an option being the main two...... Stat shouldn't say stupid stuff like that.

[Falstaffxx]

Amare shouldn't be saying anything about 'waiting it out part' . . unless he's talking about 'until the trade deadline'....We need Melo how ever reasonably possible, and that isn't gona be by FA... it's easy for 100 mill man to tell that to Melo, but Melo isn't going to be a FA for many reasons; wanting the $ and Denver trading him before that becomes an option being the main two...... Stat shouldn't say stupid stuff like that.

The $ are similar barring big concessions by the player's union.

[moocow007]

It's the general board. It's like walking into a bar full of drunks just spouting off.

, Soooooooooo true. I love the couple of Laker fans (including a Mod) that is just hating illogically right now.

Anywhoo, some more pwnage:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1082185&p=26340776#p26340737

--Mags

P.S. Anyone posting there, be respectful and don't call anyone any names.

Is hhis the same group of chuckle heads that were hooping and hollering about strength of schedule without realizing that the Lakers and several other top teams also had easy SOSs?

[johnnywishbone]

It's been demonstrated multiple times that it would take huge concessions by the players union for a 5-year deal with us to leave "a lot of money on the table." But what does this have to do with your original post, which was that "Carmelo is an employee, Denver chooses where he goes, PERIOD." You're basically saying "I believe Carmelo's anxiety about the CBA is a bigger deal to him than Denver losing their franchise player for nothing or for a rental-level package is to them." Speculation. It's an opinion, not something that ends in a PERIOD.

Reading is fundamental. It's a period because no matter what Melo says he can't tell Denver where to trade him. PERIOD. He does not have the choice. They do. And on top of that he has no guarantee going into this off season how things are going to turn out. And if you don't think his agent isn't putting copious amounts of pressure on him to sign that extension then you are blinded by your desire to see Melo in a Knicks uni. PERIOD.

How many 65 million dollar contracts have you turned down? That money is eating at him night and day. Don't kid yourself.

[magnumt]

It's the general board. It's like walking into a bar full of drunks just spouting off.

, Soooooooooo true. I love the couple of Laker fans (including a Mod) that is just hating illogically right now.

Anywhoo, some more pwnage:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1082185&p=26340776#p26340737

--Mags

P.S. Anyone posting there, be respectful and don't call anyone any names.

Is hhis the same group of chuckle heads that were hooping and hollering about strength of schedule without realizing that the Lakers and several other top teams also had eady SOSs?

Worse.

[Falstaffxx]

It's been demonstrated multiple times that it would take huge concessions by the players union for a 5-year deal with us to leave "a lot of money on the table." But what does this have to do with your original post, which was that "Carmelo is an employee, Denver chooses where he goes, PERIOD." You're basically saying "I believe Carmelo's anxiety about the CBA is a bigger deal to him than Denver losing their franchise player for nothing or for a rental-level package is to them." Speculation. It's an opinion, not something that ends in a PERIOD.

Reading is fundamental. It's a period because no matter what Melo says he can't tell Denver where to trade him. PERIOD. He does not have the choice. They do. And on top of that he has no guarantee going into this off season how things are going to turn out. And if you don't think his agent isn't putting copious amounts of pressure on him to sign that extension then you are blinded by your desire to see Melo in a Knicks uni. PERIOD.

How many 65 million dollar contracts have you turned down? That money is eating at him night and day. Don't kid yourself.

But Melo can determine where he spends the next 5 years of his career. Period. Denver has no control over that. Period. If Denver wants a big trade package back for their franchise player it has to be somewhere he agrees to go. Period.

As far as turning down a $65 million dollar contract - he's been turning it down for a year now. If he were terrified of a career-ending injury in the next 3 months he would have signed the extension before the season began.

It's all speculation. We don't know who will blink first. We don't know if Denver is willing to deal with the Knicks. We don't know if Melo is willing to go to free agency. We don't know whether Melo is willing to play for the Nets. We don't know whether Melo is overly worried about the CBA. But keep punctuating your opinions with PERIODS.

[IllegalDefense]

his agents could be telling him that the knicks dont want him...they get paid either way

[snyknick86]

Francesa just said he heard it was Melo's wife pushing him to take the extension now, no matter what. Greedy hoe is worried about her $ and that's it.

he said it like 3 times. That Lala is scared of losing $ and shes pushing Melo. That's probably why we havnt heard Melo say flat out he would play at NJ.

We all saw "He Got Game," LaLa wants to get paid too