[Camelo Thread Part 8] - NJ Gets Threats From Denver!

Post #1241 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:06 am

Johnny_Depth wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:You dont even need those stats to be able to tell that Melo isnt all that. Dude is a glorified Glenn Robinson and nothing more.

I agree. He's the most overrated of all the "super stars".

That's what I have been saying. How many superstars in the league would you think twice about acquiring at a steep discount like we are about to for Melo?

Post #1242 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:08 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Good job Nets. I feel that they're just Carmelo ... and MAYBE a back-up point guard ... away from contending.

Maybe some testosterone for Brooke

He is getting pushed far away from the basket and is also not helping them defend. Really regressive season for Brook.

Johnny_Depth · Post #1243 » by **Johnny_Depth** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:09 am

The Nets can have him. They'd be stupid to trade away Morrow, Favors, Harris, and all those draft picks for him.

Jay10 · Post #1244 » by **Jay10** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:09 am

who really thinks donnie is going to give up anything of real value?

god shammgod · Post #1245 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:10 am

Jay10 wrote:who really thinks donnie is going to give up anything of real value?

i don't think he'll trade anything beyond gallo/ar/pick. i think he's pretty much decided what he'll give up and he won't waver.

Post #1246 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:11 am

Johnny_Depth wrote:The Nets can have him. They'd be stupid to trade away Morrow, Favors, Harris, and all those draft picks for him.

No they wouldn't. Them acquiring him has very little to do with anything that happens on the court.

Pharmcat · Post #1247 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:12 am

melo can sure when pass when he wants to

(old clip)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UretF96tyI

AmareNY · Post #1248 » by **AmareNY** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:12 am

ANY TIME you can grad a top 10 player in his prime, you do it! [end of story]

TrueWarrior · Post #1249 » by **TrueWarrior** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:12 am

god shammgod wrote:did anyone read this, according to this - landry fields produces almost 3 times as many wins as melo. that can't be right.

Fields also has a top 10 adjusted +/-. Anybody can see what he does out on the floor when hes having a good game. Stop looking at volume scoring so much. Basketball is so much more than raw stats. Alot of these advanced stats pick up things guys like Fields and Gallo do, and why I favor them heavily.

Would Melo make us better? I guess a little but it depends how much we give up. Im really not convinced at all still that hes a superstar. Look how much we scored tonight. We need defense and rebounding. Melo is a 44% shooter who cant even hit threes. Whats so great about that again?

Post #1250 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:14 am

AmareNY wrote:ANY TIME you can grad a top 10 player in his prime, you do it! [end of story]

It is very debatable whether Melo is top 10 or not.

I still want him though, but only because he will come cheaply.

Pharmcat · Post #1251 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:14 am

GONYK wrote:
AmareNY wrote:ANY TIME you can grad a top 10 player in his prime, you do it! [end of story]

It is very debatable whether Melo is top 10 or not.

I still want him though, but only because he will come cheaply.

skip bayless calls him top 5

god shammgod · Post #1252 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:14 am

TrueWarrior wrote:
god shammgod wrote:did anyone read this, according to this - landry fields produces almost 3 times as many wins as melo. that can't be right.

Fields also has a top 10 adjusted +/-. Anybody can see what he does out on the floor when hes having a good game. Stop looking at volume scoring so much. Basketball is so much more than raw stats. Alot of these advanced stats pick up things guys like Fields and Gallo do, and why I favor them heavily.

Would Melo make us a better? I guess but it depends how much we give up. Im really not convinced at all still that hes a superstar. Look how much we scored tonight. We need defense and rebounding. Melo is a 44% shooter who cant even hit threes. Whats so great about that again?

look, by the article's logic if you trade melo for landry straight up denver should be better. would they be ? c'mon

I_Love_NYK · Post #1253 » by **I_Love_NYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:15 am

Not that many centers in the league can fit D'antoni's system though.

Post #1254 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:15 am

Pharmcat wrote:
GONYK wrote:
AmareNY wrote:ANY TIME you can grad a top 10 player in his prime, you do it! [end of story]

It is very debatable whether Melo is top 10 or not.

I still want him though, but only because he will come cheaply.

skip bayless calls him top 5

Skip Bayless is also an idiot

Post #1255 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:17 am

Pharmcat wrote:melo can sure when pass when he wants to

(old clip)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UretF96tyI

That's like that Zach Randolph pass everyone used to play when they tried to argue that he was a playmaker out of the post

Johnny_Depth · Post #1256 » by **Johnny_Depth** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:17 am

GONYK wrote:
Johnny_Depth wrote:The Nets can have him. They'd be stupid to trade away Morrow, Favors, Harris, and all those draft picks for him.

No they wouldn't. Them acquiring him has very little to do with anything that happens on the court.

I get what you're saying. It's a PR move, but it's stupid. They're gonna regret it. Chauncey Billups is near the end of hi career, Rip Hamilton is washed up. They're gonna have zero depth, and in about 2 years they're gonna have to pay Brook Lopez, cuz he'll be up for an extension, so they won't really have alot of money to add a third star.

If the Nets were smart, they'd sit tight. Get another top 5 pick, then try and do something in 2012.

robear · Post #1257 » by **robear** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:17 am

Melo as a clutch scorer, and someone who can beat the heatles

Knickplaya · Post #1258 » by **Knickplaya** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:18 am

Why is this so? I read an article on the angle that losing Vince has created more pressure for Brook on the offensive end which is making him use more energy and he can't focus on rebounding as much? I don't ever watch the Nets unless I bet against them and are rooting for the other team, or they are playing the Knicks.

Post #1259 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:19 am

Johnny_Depth wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Johnny_Depth wrote:The Nets can have him. They'd be stupid to trade away Morrow, Favors, Harris, and all those draft picks for him.

No they wouldn't. Them acquiring him has very little to do with anything that happens on the court.

I get what you're saying. It's a PR move, but it's stupid. They're gonna regret it. Chauncey Billups is near the end of hi career, Rip Hamilton is washed up. They're gonna have zero depth, and in about 2 years they're gonna have to pay Brook Lopez, cuz he'll be up for an extension, so they won't really have alot of money to add a third star.

If the Nets were smart, they'd sit tight. Get another top 5 pick, then try and do something in 2012.

I agree with you, but I also see where they are coming from. The Nets have very little to look forward to as it is. You can't lose when you have nothing to lose. They are desperate.

Post #1260 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:21 am

Knickplaya wrote:Why is this so? I read an article on the angle that losing Vince has created more pressure for Brook on the offensive end which is making him use more energy and he can't focus on rebounding as much? I don't ever watch the Nets unless I bet against them and are rooting for the other team, or they are playing the Knicks.

Brook Lopez was always a bad rebounder