2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch

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[rammagen]

Nates polls are opinion. The election itself is hard data.

Who are you going to believe me or Nate? Put your comments below. Let's get it on record.

Early voting data in battleground states shows Trump outpacing national polls giving Biden an edge

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/early-voting-data-in-battleground-states-shows-trump-outpacing-national-polls-giving-biden-an-edge

T

he Republican Party is keeping pace in mail-in and early voting in three key swing states despite polls showing early voting should clearly favor Joe Biden.

Data out of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio indicates that registered Republicans are returning ballots at about the same rate as registered Democrats in the battleground states.

In Michigan as of Wednesday, just over 1 million ballots have been returned, 40% from registered Democrats, with the same from registered Republicans. In Wisconsin, 40% of the 711,855 returned ballots have been from Democrats, while 38% have come from Republicans.

The GOP actually leads in Ohio, with 45% of 475,259 early ballot returns coming from Republicans, compared to 43% from registered Democrats. The preliminary data matches up with the requests by party affiliation for mail-in ballots.

The data contradicts national polls showing Biden supporters overwhelmingly plan to vote by mail or early in person. According to a Pew Research poll released Friday, 55% of voters who plan to cast their ballot in person before Election Day support Biden, compared to 40% who support President Trump..

OOPSIE!!!!

You have no idea what you’re talking about or how polling works do you

and the OP has no Idea that the wash. examiner is not the wash. post, that is a rep rag doing biased facts before posting I would hope they had the balls to fact check or go some place respectable 52% to Biden
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

[Clyde_Style]

I know that Ruth Bader Ginsberg had a friendship on the court with Antonin Scalia.

But the incredible dishonesty, lack of any political courage or useful work, and generally bad character of Graham makes me feel sick seeing this actually happened. I'm sorry, but he as much as anyone else in the Senate bears the blame for enabling Trump and compromising our democracy. Times up!

Her connection with him goes back at least a couple decades now. The Graham she knew is gone. Trump played his komprommat card on Graham and turned him into a sniveling succubus. In her elderly mind, she is probably hugging the Graham she once knew and she may even feel sorry for what a wretch he turned into. I wouldn't read much more into it than that. She's a weird politician herself and has sided with corporate interests one too many times. Once upon a time she was looked upon more favorably, but she's really old and will be gone soon so whatever.

Yes I get that Feinstein is completely out of touch and her hugging Graham is idiotic because there’s a chance he could be covid positive but I also think the outrage calling for her to step down is just too much. Just **** primary her and shut up until the next election.

Rage monkeys gonna rage yo

[BKlutch]

It's going to be interesting to see how much more widespread Latino support is going to be for President Trump this election.

I'm seeing some very encouraging signs. The 30,000 vehicle caravan Latinos for Trump rally in Miami and now this in Puerto Rico.

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What has the orange tub of goo ever done for Latinos except to call them drug dealers, rapists, murderers, thugs, and whites? Oh right, he did throw out a bunch of rolls of paper towels to the people of Puerto Rico after it was devastated by that hurricane. So there is that.

before the OP actually posted did you check the account? It looks suspiciously like a fake account joining last month. having family in PPR I called the picture of traffic just that a picture for trump. That was not Miami either that was San Juan.
In Miami he has the cuban vote because they hate the dems. A vast Majority of PRs are dems. And the PRs in Puerto Rico cant vote so there is that too. I call this BS. Everyone down there heard him and saw his actions afte teh storm.

Want to know why Florida is voting blue look no further then the PRs that were uprooted and moved to Florida, to escape the mess
the bot checkers call it 75% chance of it fake so it has been reported.
Also the lady speaking was a republican senator from the Island and lives there....So how exactly is she going to cast a vote for trump? To me she is the classic PR republican ok with being a second class citizen and serving and dying for this country but they can't cast a vote

I agree the new accout with almost no followers seems like fake. And the woman is not a voter in this election.

Could you tell me what are the bot checkers that told you it is likely fake? I would love to check other posts I come across... I'm so tired of seeing fake stuff that if some claim seems extraordinary, I just don't even begin to believe it without a ton of proof.

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Ooopsie

Back to the rabbit hole!

[Papi_swav]

Biden campaign using battle rappers is such a joke.

[BallSacBounce]

So Jimmy Dore and Tucker Carlson agree on pulling for Trump to (1) withdraw troops from the Middle East over the objections of JCS Mark Milley; and (2) force a large COVID stimulus package now over the objections of Mitch McConnell and the Republicans.

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Who gives a **** what this guy thinks.

I want to hear what Russell Brand has to say about it.

This is why I love you.

Hey I was thinking the same thing.
I'll "raise my voice" politically plenty of times that's the New Yorker in me but at the end of the day it's just a disagreement. When it's over I'm done with it.

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What has the orange tub of goo ever done for Latinos except to call them drug dealers, rapists, murderers, thugs, and whites? Oh right, he did throw out a bunch of rolls of paper towels to the people of Puerto Rico after it was devastated by that hurricane. So there is that.

By how much do you figure Trump will outperform his 2016 numbers with Latinos. I'm guessing at least 5% more.

Why guess? What does 538 say?

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[BallSacBounce]

You have no idea what you’re talking about or how polling works do you

If they did you'd be talking to someone else. Everything is just a script they read from. There is no original thought. Trolls are by their very nature unoriginal. They just harp on whatever bad memes they've been fed and some of them pretend they are making their own arguments, but they are not. They just repeat things. In this case it is all garbage with no critical thought. Their time is up. 2 weeks and counting.

[stuporman]

Feinstein sucks. Not a secret

True. But, to the larger point, name anyone in the republican party who we can partner with? I don't think there is one. Look at how they all folded during the Kavanaugh hearing.

Sheldon Whitehouse said it loud and clear

The GOP screwed themselves. Biden's known affability with the opposition will merely put a smiley face on the actuality which is Biden's WH is going to huddle with other Democrats and use their majority to enact legislation based on the consensus of the Democratic coalition. The GOP will literally get nothing now and that falls squarely on the GOP. This trope that the Dems are going to obsequiously solicit Mitch's input is realy silly and I wish people would just drop it. It's just dumb. If anything, Biden will exude warm fuzzies while tightening the screws so in a sense he is the perfect front man for using majority power with class

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

[Clyde_Style]

True. But, to the larger point, name anyone in the republican party who we can partner with? I don't think there is one. Look at how they all folded during the Kavanaugh hearing.

Sheldon Whitehouse said it loud and clear

The GOP screwed themselves. Biden's known affability with the opposition will merely put a smiley face on the actuality which is Biden's WH is going to huddle with other Democrats and use their majority to enact legislation based on the consensus of the Democratic coalition. The GOP will literally get nothing now and that falls squarely on the GOP. This trope that the Dems are going to obsequiously solicit Mitch's input is realy silly and I wish people would just drop it. It's just dumb. If anything, Biden will exude warm fuzzies while tightening the screws so in a sense he is the perfect front man for using majority power with class

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

FOH, it's been said on this thread numerous times. Stop being so touchy and disingenuous

[HarthorneWingo]

True. But, to the larger point, name anyone in the republican party who we can partner with? I don't think there is one. Look at how they all folded during the Kavanaugh hearing.

Sheldon Whitehouse said it loud and clear

The GOP screwed themselves. Biden's known affability with the opposition will merely put a smiley face on the actuality which is Biden's WH is going to huddle with other Democrats and use their majority to enact legislation based on the consensus of the Democratic coalition. The GOP will literally get nothing now and that falls squarely on the GOP. This trope that the Dems are going to obsequiously solicit Mitch's input is realy silly and I wish people would just drop it. It's just dumb. If anything, Biden will exude warm fuzzies while tightening the screws so in a sense he is the perfect front man for using majority power with class

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

I think we’d all like to believe - or even know - that Biden will do what needs to be done for American workers and middle class families and if Republicans want to join the us, then welcome. If not, then GTFO of the way or get bulldozed. But Joe won’t come even close to saying what Sheldon Whitehouse said. In fact, his message has been consistently in the other direction thus inviting this type of criticism.

At the end of the day, I expect that Joe will listen to the American people and respond boldly to the conditions on the ground while negotiating from strength.

[BallSacBounce]

Big Brother is all-in on stifling speech it disapproves of. They better hope Biden wins. If Trump wins and there are regulatory changes that cost them they will be wide open to lawsuits by shareholders IMO.

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Day 5: New York Post Defies Twitter’s Demand to Delete Biden Stories, Remains Suspended

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/10/19/day-5-new-york-post-defies-twitters-demand-to-delete-biden-stories-remains-suspended/

Five days after the New York Post published a bombshell story about Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, and the family’s alleged ties to Burisma, the Post remains blacklisted from Twitter for sharing the story. The newspaper has refused to delete its tweets linking to the stories, and Twitter has refused to relent on the Post‘s suspension, despite CEO Jack Dorsey admitting that blocking links on the platform is wrong.

Censoring the Biden story: How social media becomes state media
By Jonathan Turley

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/521517-censoring-the-biden-story-how-social-media-becomes-state-media

Yet the funny thing about kompromat — a Russian term for compromising information — is that often it is true. Indeed, it is most damaging and most useful when it is true; otherwise, you deny the allegations and expose the lie. Hunter Biden has yet to deny these were his laptop, his emails, his images. If thousands of emails and images were fabricated, then serious crimes were committed. But if the emails and images are genuine, then the Bidens appear to have lied for years as a raw influence-peddling scheme worth millions stretched from China to Ukraine to Russia. Moreover, these countries likely have had the compromising information all along while the Bidens — and the media — were denying reports of illicit activities.

Either way, this was major news.

The response of Twitter and Facebook, however, was to shut it all down. Major media companies also imposed a virtual blackout on the allegations. It didn’t matter that thousands of emails were available for review or that the Bidens did not directly address the material. It was all declared to be fake news.

The tech companies’ actions are an outrageous example of open censorship and bias. It shows how private companies effectively can become state media working for one party. This, of course, was more serious than deleting coughs, but it was based on the same excuse of “protecting” the public from distractions or distortions. Indeed, it was the realization of political and academic calls that have been building for years.

[rammagen]

What has the orange tub of goo ever done for Latinos except to call them drug dealers, rapists, murderers, thugs, and whites? Oh right, he did throw out a bunch of rolls of paper towels to the people of Puerto Rico after it was devastated by that hurricane. So there is that.

before the OP actually posted did you check the account? It looks suspiciously like a fake account joining last month. having family in PPR I called the picture of traffic just that a picture for trump. That was not Miami either that was San Juan.
In Miami he has the cuban vote because they hate the dems. A vast Majority of PRs are dems. And the PRs in Puerto Rico cant vote so there is that too. I call this BS. Everyone down there heard him and saw his actions afte teh storm.

Want to know why Florida is voting blue look no further then the PRs that were uprooted and moved to Florida, to escape the mess
the bot checkers call it 75% chance of it fake so it has been reported.
Also the lady speaking was a republican senator from the Island and lives there....So how exactly is she going to cast a vote for trump? To me she is the classic PR republican ok with being a second class citizen and serving and dying for this country but they can't cast a vote

I agree the new accout with almost no followers seems like fake. And the woman is not a voter in this election.

Could you tell me what are the bot checkers that told you it is likely fake? I would love to check other posts I come across... I'm so tired of seeing fake stuff that if some claim seems extraordinary, I just don't even begin to believe it without a ton of proof.

there is a new one google pulled up it seems pretty good so far
https://botsentinel.com/
also
https://botometer.osome.iu.edu/

[Clyde_Style]

Sheldon Whitehouse said it loud and clear

The GOP screwed themselves. Biden's known affability with the opposition will merely put a smiley face on the actuality which is Biden's WH is going to huddle with other Democrats and use their majority to enact legislation based on the consensus of the Democratic coalition. The GOP will literally get nothing now and that falls squarely on the GOP. This trope that the Dems are going to obsequiously solicit Mitch's input is realy silly and I wish people would just drop it. It's just dumb. If anything, Biden will exude warm fuzzies while tightening the screws so in a sense he is the perfect front man for using majority power with class

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

I think we’d all like to believe - or even know - that Biden will do what needs to be done for American workers and middle class families and if Republicans want to join the us, then welcome. If not, then GTFO of the way or get bulldozed. But Joe won’t come even close to saying what Sheldon Whitehouse said. In fact, his message has been consistently in the other direction thus inviting this type of criticism.

That's why Whitehouse says it. He can afford to. Biden can't campaign like that. You already know that though.

[stuporman]

Sheldon Whitehouse said it loud and clear

The GOP screwed themselves. Biden's known affability with the opposition will merely put a smiley face on the actuality which is Biden's WH is going to huddle with other Democrats and use their majority to enact legislation based on the consensus of the Democratic coalition. The GOP will literally get nothing now and that falls squarely on the GOP. This trope that the Dems are going to obsequiously solicit Mitch's input is realy silly and I wish people would just drop it. It's just dumb. If anything, Biden will exude warm fuzzies while tightening the screws so in a sense he is the perfect front man for using majority power with class

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

I think we’d all like to believe - or even know - that Biden will do what needs to be done for American workers and middle class families and if Republicans want to join the us, then welcome. If not, then GTFO of the way or get bulldozed. But Joe won’t come even close to saying what Sheldon Whitehouse said. In fact, his message has been consistently in the other direction thus inviting this type of criticism.

At the end of the day, I expect that Joe will listen to the American people and respond boldly to the conditions on the ground while negotiating from strength.

Unfortunately I don't know that and though I'd like to believe it I have very little faith in that based on everything I have seen from establishment centrist dems. I do take note of the things in his campaign policy statements and will be watching closely to see if he tries to get them done.

If he does get elected along with the senate also flipping he better learn from history and do something about it in the first two years or the backlash can be quick. With the current events and the likelihood that the effects of the pandemic may stretch into 2021-22 there won't be much forgiveness for a lethargic administration/congress.

Get the stimulus to the people and the states not just corporations and the wealthy. Get a public option in the ACA with safeguards against InsCo shedding of sick clients onto the public option they don't want to pay for anymore after collecting premiums for years. Get the education bill through, get the minimum wage increase through.

If they have both houses then there is no reason those bills should not wind up on his desk to sign with favorable terms and little to no rider bloat. Don't expect any help from the Reps at all, they will do everything on their power to stop anything the Dems will try to do.

I can understand if Biden makes friendly noises about bipartisan cooperation before the election because he is courting on the fence independents and disgruntled republicans. Although, if he really believes the Reps will do anything but obstruct like they always do then he is deluding himself. This isn't 20 years ago when he was negotiating bills they wanted anyway.

Dems need to negotiate hard and call out Reps in public loudly claiming they are obstructing the people's will through the mandate of the election. Make them look bad so 2022 becomes a referendum on the Reps failure of their constituents not a Dems failure like it was in 2010. Otherwise they lose the congress again and get completely blocked again until 2024.

The Dems have to become killers....civil killers, polite compared to the incivility that will undoubtedly be the tone coming from every part of the Republican party but they cannot allow themselves to be bullied on the floors of congress or in the White House.... like last time! They often are too quick to capitulate instead of fight.

[stuporman]

Sheldon Whitehouse said it loud and clear

The GOP screwed themselves. Biden's known affability with the opposition will merely put a smiley face on the actuality which is Biden's WH is going to huddle with other Democrats and use their majority to enact legislation based on the consensus of the Democratic coalition. The GOP will literally get nothing now and that falls squarely on the GOP. This trope that the Dems are going to obsequiously solicit Mitch's input is realy silly and I wish people would just drop it. It's just dumb. If anything, Biden will exude warm fuzzies while tightening the screws so in a sense he is the perfect front man for using majority power with class

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

FOH, it's been said on this thread numerous times. Stop being so touchy and disingenuous

Then it should be no problem to provide the quotes declaring those sentiments you say are being trope-a-doped around but if I touched a nerve with you maybe I should just leave it alone.

[Clyde_Style]

Can you quote the instances of someone saying this because I haven't seen anyone say that. Otherwise it's you saying it and I agree with you, it's dumb and it should be dropped.

FOH, it's been said on this thread numerous times. Stop being so touchy and disingenuous

Then it should be no problem to provide the quotes declaring those sentiments you say are being trope-a-doped around but if I touched a nerve with you maybe I should just leave it alone.

You're trolling now. Demanding quotes no less. Later

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